Ngannou vs Gane would be the pinnacle of MMA

[Texan6533]

The build up and technical prowess of Fedor / Cro Cop says otherwise. And that’s just at HW.

 

[Jackonfire]

To be fair though Ngannou TKOed Blaydes twice first and chins tend to get worse over time with more head trauma and KO/TKOs. Lewis does have more KO/TKOs 12 vs 10 but he also has more fights in the UFC, 21 vs Ngannou's 13 making Lewis' KO/TKO ratio significantly lower, Ngannou's UFC KO/TKO ratio is 76.9%, Lewis' is 57.1%.

Nerd.

 

[combobreaker]

Ngannou is the HW Rumble Johnson, but with only 2 rounds of cardio.

Rumble Johnson is the HW Rumble Johnson.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Ngannou is the HW Rumble Johnson, but with only 2 rounds of cardio.

I thought Rumble was the HW Rumble Johnson with only 2 rounds of cardio.

edit: Damn. Too slow.

Rumble Johnson is the HW Rumble Johnson.

 

[Rovert]

Not if Derrick gives Gane the Dim Mak and we get a re run of controller disconnect Lewis vs Francis

 

[GOATtalks]

OP seems like he has multiple personality disorder.

How so?

 

[GOATtalks]

Nothing Ngannou is involved in can be the pinnacle of MMA. To say his overall MMA game is lacking is a massive understatement.

You probably predicted for Stipe to win the rematch. Francis has improved immensely in the last few years and what really sets him apart is physical attributes

 

[Deleted member 504083]

Rumble Johnson is the HW Rumble Johnson.

Imagine a true HW making 170 lbs

I thought Rumble was the HW Rumble Johnson with only 2 rounds of cardio.

edit: Damn. Too slow.

Rumble 2 rounds of cardio? A true HW?

 

[GOATtalks]

Good pick. Mine would either be Fedor-Mirko or Fedor-Nog 3.
What’s Ngannou gonna show me that Brett Rogers didn’t? Or Shane Carwin? Hell, Carwin at least had a wrestling game to fall back on. Francis doesn’t even have that.

Fedor vs Mirko? Really? 2 chubby MW/LHW’s battling it out in terrible fight.

Mirko was horrible. Only moving laterally to one direction into Fedor’s power hand, throwing naked kicks. No set ups, no feints, no footwork. Completely lost on the ground as well. Shame on Fedor for not finishing him

 

[BluntForceTrama]

This should've been another 'would you shut up' thread

 

[GOATtalks]

He *TKO'ed Blaydes twice, never put him to sleep the way Derrick did. And of course Lewis has the record for most knockouts in UFC HW history which proves he has the heaviest hands.


How many punches was that?

Only took Lewis one

Blaydes basically knocked himself out against Lewis’s fist. It was a well timed counter. Ngannou just grazed Blaydes and he went chicken legs. Blaydes even blocked the shot and he still went down

 

[GrantB13]

objectively the best fight of all time

also they are natty so it's even more anticipated than fedor cro cop

Lol Ngannou is natural for sure?

 

[blaseblah]

Did you watch Rumble dominate prime Phil Davis every round? Jesus, you believe Stipe (a washed Stipe no less) is a p4p better wrestler than Davis?

We are talking about the same Phil Davis who got schooled on the ground by Rashad Evans right?

 

[GOATtalks]

This should've been another 'would you shut up' thread

With the number of yellow cards you have, it seems you will shut up soon

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

Sarcasm

 

[Doughie99]

- both are very well rounded.

Whatever you might say about Ngannou, he really is not well rounded. He is very good at one thing. Not well rounded in the slightest.

 

[Deleted member 504083]

We are talking about the same Phil Davis who got schooled on the ground by Rashad Evans right?

Schooled? Lol wut

That's like suggesting DC isn't a good grappler because Jon Jones had more takedowns than him head to head.

 

[Iron Nick]

Fedor vs Mirko? Really? 2 chubby MW/LHW’s battling it out in terrible fight.

Mirko was horrible. Only moving laterally to one direction into Fedor’s power hand, throwing naked kicks. No set ups, no feints, no footwork. Completely lost on the ground as well. Shame on Fedor for not finishing him

I criticize a lot of Fedor's opposition strongly, but that's waaaay too harsh.

Don't get me wrong, Ngannou - even though i agree his skillset to an extent proves that heavyweight isn't exactly the best division - gets way too much shit on here, like:
People honestly believe he's only a power puncher with no other talent, when he clearly has a very good eye for a counter/timing and is a decent kicker with a decent ground game and (since his improvements) has good defensive wrestling capabilities too, but overall, Fedor vs Cro Cop absolutely was a very technical fight.

What i can agree with though, is that both Ngannou and Gane are - obviously - much larger men and actual natural heavyweights as in they've got the frame to be heavyweights at an athletic body composition and i also agree that it's further up the "best heavyweight fights" ladder than many people do acknowledge.

 

[Iron Nick]

Whatever you might say about Ngannou, he really is not well rounded. He is very good at one thing. Not well rounded in the slightest.

As of now, i do think he's somewhat well-rounded at least. Decent bjj and his defensive wrestling looked astonishingly good against Stipe (who is a very good wrestler) too.
In terms of striking, he cleaned things up, but he never was JUST raw power either, he always had a good eye for a counter and good timing on the feet.

 

[BluntForceTrama]

With the number of yellow cards you have, it seems you will shut up soon

I got these cards proudly for posting meishas tits in a thread, so kindly eat a bag of dicks, fella