Media Ngannou says that Cyril doesn't have a chin like Stipe

GolovKing said:
I think throwing kicks on Francis is more dangerous than people seem to think. He's got long arms and can generate ko power with long looping punches. It's a lot easier to get koed by someone like Francis in MMA gloves than it would in a standard kickboxing or Muay Thai fight throwing kicks. Same thing with throwing a jab, it's a lot more dangerous against someone like Francis in an MMA fight who has an overhand from hell than it would be in a regular boxing match
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Yeah, Curtis Blaydes, who has an excellent jab got faceplanted trying to jab Ngannou.
Gane fights a lot in southpaw though, and I don't remember Ngannou ever facing a southpaw.
 
GolovKing said:
I think throwing kicks on Francis is more dangerous than people seem to think. He's got long arms and can generate ko power with long looping punches. It's a lot easier to get koed by someone like Francis in MMA gloves than it would in a standard kickboxing or Muay Thai fight throwing kicks. Same thing with throwing a jab, it's a lot more dangerous against someone like Francis in an MMA fight who has an overhand from hell than it would be in a regular boxing match
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I do think part of the problem guys have against Francis is that its dangerous to throw anything against him, guys like Stipe the 2nd time, Reem and JDS would have been wanting to throw a lot more than they were doing and that pressure tends to build up and result in them throwing some ill judged sloppy technique that he counters.

Again I think as with Crocop/Aleks when your fighting someone like that really I think you need to have their fearing your offence, either actually finish them or having them think "I can't just take this and hope to land my own". Thats really I suspect part of why Francis shelled up vs Lewis although also you do wonder whether it also wasnt partly the fallout of the loss to Stipe and gassing so badly.

That is I think one area were we've not really seen that much from Gane. if Francis comes forward does he have a really hard body kicks or straight counter to meet him? Something where Francis can't just think "I can take this a few times if it means I land big myself".
 
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if u dont have grappling in your arsenal, ngannou will steam roll you. he will gladly eat one to give one and so far it's been very successful.

gane offers a technical prowess in striking that could give ngannou problems, especially if he just decides to walk into a big punch. but if gane isn't able to hurt francis, he's going down and he aint getting up.
 
moreorless87 said:
Its possible I spose Francis just freezes up facing someone with a good jab/lowkick but if he does go after Gane I think thats quite a diffreent challange to people like Lewis, Volkov and Roz who were really waiting for him to give them a counter opening and didnt press him that hard.

The old fight that really comes to mind for me is Crocop vs Aleks, basically a technical kickboxer having to face a big fast guy who really goes for him and doesnt stop and that fight isnt about slowly controling distance and picking away, its about slipping close punches, getting out the back door and landing big shots on the counter.

I mean going from that example I wonder actually whether Gane might be advised to use the bodykick a lot?
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Body kicks would be a good strategy as long as the retraction from them is lightening fast (to better avoid overhead counters).
 
GolovKing said:
I think throwing kicks on Francis is more dangerous than people seem to think. He's got long arms and can generate ko power with long looping punches. It's a lot easier to get koed by someone like Francis in MMA gloves than it would in a standard kickboxing or Muay Thai fight throwing kicks. Same thing with throwing a jab, it's a lot more dangerous against someone like Francis in an MMA fight who has an overhand from hell than it would be in a regular boxing match
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It's also easier to beat someone to the punch, when they throw long looping.
 
Senzo Tanaka said:
He's not wrong. There were probably 4 or 5 KO ending shots in the last Stipe/Frank fight that Stipe didn't even react to. It was nuts considering he got KO'ed cold by Cormier and didn't lose his chin.
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That's because Cormier eyepoked him before he KO'd him. Notice how Cormier never came close to KOing him again in their next two fights without that advantage?

And wouldn't you know it, but his other KO loss is to Struve who, you guessed it, also eyepoked him right before the KO too.

Francis is the only one who's KO'd him without any eyepokes. And even then it was off Stipe running head first into the punch trying to chase his own finish. Same way JDS dropped him too actually.

His chin has always been great.
 
Goomer said:
I honestly think Gane is going to give Ngannou a lot of trouble.
Gane's movement and speed is something I don't think Ngannou has ever seen.
Gane's speed, lateral movement, and his abiltiy to switch stances is going to frustrate Ngannou big time.
He's very agile and is very hard to hit.
He is also able to get inside effectively and get out more than most Ngannou has faced.
Not sure he will have the WILL to be able to take out Ngannou, but I would not be a bit surprised if he schools him for a decision.

Gane's movement and defense is at a VERY high level.
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I've never really found Gane to be fast, and certainly not faster than Ngannou (especially not in hand speed). Nothing I've seen in their fights would ever give me that impression.

What he does instead do is move fairly well, especially at that size, and more importantly at the right times. It's timing and understanding of technique, not speed. He beats people to positions by understanding them better and moving at the better times, and so generally comes into them in the more advantageous position.

Position to position, squared up, both slinging for the fences, Francis is landing first and in all likelihood more devastatingly. Which is why Gane needs to not find himself ever there.
 
Cooliox said:
Gane also didn't develop PTSD from fighting, like Ngannou did against Stipe where he had 1 round of energy, before spending the rest of the fight being Stipe's wife.
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PTSD Gane will be born after Saturday.

And still.
 
It's not a stretch to say that Stipe has a better chin than almost any heavyweight. The only time he has been KO'd is when he didn't see the punch coming – Struve and Cormier after an eye poke, Francis after masking a straight left behind a straight right and a check left hook when Stipe was already wobbled and charging in. He even absorbed a solid uppercut from Francis after getting dropped and didn't go down.

Other fighters go out with a fraction of what Stipe has absorbed. He took 28 significant strikes to the head in his second fight with Francis and 17 in the first fight. Compare that to iron chinned Rozenstruik who only absorbed 3 (2 while unconscious), 5 for JDS, 6 for Cain, 11 for Blaydes in their second fight. Not only did Stipe's 2nd fight with Ngannou last longer than Franicis' 4 fights before that combined but he also absorbed more significant strikes to the head than all 4 guys together, too.

To quote the famous philosopher Cabbage Correira, Stipe's head has to be filled with "concrete and stuff".
 
Routing for Gane in this one. Nganou has turned into a mouth piece, he has 0 chance against any decent boxer.

He says stipe has no chin yet he blamed his performance against Lewis (after the stipe fight) on “the fear I had inside me from fighting Stipe”. Rofl.
 
Cooliox said:
Gane also didn't develop PTSD from fighting, like Ngannou did against Stipe where he had 1 round of energy, before spending the rest of the fight being Stipe's wife.
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Too bad Stipe couldn't even finish his "wife".
 
NEETzschean said:
Ngannou also said that he didn't think Jones was as tough as Stipe, despite never sparring or fighting Jones and Jones never being knocked down to my knowledge (albeit at LHW).
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He was right though because Jones can't beat top contenders at 205 or anyone at hw without steroids
 
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