Economy Newsom may exclude Tesla from tax credits

[deviake]

The entire point is to have the most people driving e cars for the environment. Ridiculous stuff imo

I agree. We should be aggressively pushing for better public infrastructure. I wonder what happened with California's proposed high speed rail

 

[avenue94]

The entire point is to have the most people driving e cars for the environment. Ridiculous stuff imo

That's why I said if. If you're gonna to do subsidies, you don't subsidize the marker leader, you subsidize competitors so prices have a reason to go down.

 

[chardog]

finally the democrats figure out that the green movement is nothing more than a grift

the cybertruck is already excluded from these credits due to some bullshit technicality by the bidens, the war predates newsom, but it does show that the environment angle is nothing more than a money and power grab.

 

[Sinister]

But why do Tesla sales need a state tax credit when the company is valued at such an obscene amount compared to the entire rest of the US automotive industry combined?

Because if we dont give the wealthiest immigrant in the land tax cuts because he sucks off the far right, then what exactly are we doing as a Country!?!?

 

[Helden]

The entire point is to have the most people driving e cars for the environment. Ridiculous stuff imo

If Elon wanted his customers to receive a tax credit, he shouldn't have supported the admin that plans to cut it

 

[Helden]

finally the democrats figure out that the green movement is nothing more than a grift

the cybertruck is already excluded from these credits due to some bullshit technicality by the bidens, the war predates newsom, but it does show that the environment angle is nothing more than a money and power grab.

Yeah all that BIG ENVIRO money... not the oil companies

 

[Cartiac]

If you're going to offer subsidies, shouldn't it be to new entrants and not market leaders? That's more likely to grow a market and bring down prices.

No, you are completely way out beyond the right field bleachers on this one. That makes absolutely zero sense. The point of the subsidies is an incentive to push people to purchase EV's over ICE vehicles. Did you even read what you posted?

How in the bloody hell do you even start to defend that the government giving Bubba's garage free money is going to grow the EV market in any way much less more than using that money to reduce the cost for people to purchase the Tesla that they actually want from the company that created the market and continues to invest in building the infrastructure to charge them while also advancing solar panel and battery technologies?

 

[avenue94]

No, you are completely way out beyond the right field bleachers on this one. That makes absolutely zero sense. The point of the subsidies is an incentive to push people to purchase EV's over ICE vehicles. Did you even read what you posted?

How in the bloody hell do you even start to defend that the government giving Bubba's garage free money is going to grow the EV market in any way much less more than using that money to reduce the cost for people to purchase the Tesla that they actually want from the company that created the market and continues to invest in building the infrastructure to charge them while also advancing solar panel and battery technologies?

What is the biggest (or second biggest) barrier to EV adoption? Price. And what brings down the cost of goods in a market? Competition. Ergo, if you want to drive down the cost of EVs long term with subsidies, you foster competition, not steer subsidies toward the market leader.

And who is talking about Bubba's garage. There's only a handful of companies that would qualify for EV credits, and none of them are mom and pop shops like you are hallucinating. Hint: You got to actually have an EV to sell if your customers are going to qualify for the credit.

 

[deviake]

Yeah all that BIG ENVIRO money... not the oil companies

I enjoy when the oil industry is excluded from conversations about big money influence in the energy/environmental sector

 

[chardog]

Yeah all that BIG ENVIRO money... not the oil companies

Coincidentally the biggest makers of ice vehicles will be benefiting from these credits

 

[deviake]

Coincidentally the biggest makers of ice vehicles will be benefiting from these credits

True, but the more EVs they sell the more they're incentivized to make them. That said, I'd rather minimize car based infrastructure altogether

 

[ShadowRun]

I don't want to see no crying when some red state governor takes a active approach on some rich liberal.

 

[Loiosh]

But thats not why they're doing it, it's all politics which is BS. Cali has a history of this

How do you feel Elon did in Boca Chica?

Were the regulators there just big meanies?

And why would you choose as a source the guy whose ass Newson kicked running for governor?

 

[avenue94]

I don't want to see no crying when some red state governor takes a active approach on some rich liberal.

Ah yes, who could forget a certain Floridian governor's spat with Disney.

 

[Loiosh]

I don't want to see no crying when some red state governor takes a active approach on some rich liberal.

Are you kidding?

 

[Cartiac]

What is the biggest (or second biggest) barrier to EV adoption? Price. And what brings down the cost of goods in a market? Competition. Ergo, if you want to drive down the cost of EVs long term with subsidies, you foster competition, not steer subsidies toward the market leader.

And who is talking about Bubba's garage. There's only a handful of companies that would qualify for EV credits, and none of them are mom and pop shops like you are hallucinating. Hint: You got to actually have an EV to sell if your customers are going to qualify for the credit.

So you think giving that money to Ford, GM, Toyota, etc which are Tesla's competition is going to grow the market more than giving that money to Tesla? Tesla's competition has much larger revenue, resources, and decades more experience building and servicing cars.

Building cars at scale, efficiently is extremely difficult even for very long established manufacturers. Porsche in the 90s had to suck up that German pride and hire Toyota engineers to teach them how to build cars efficiently.

Tesla is the very young, new entrant in the car manufacturing industry. Tesla, being the new kid in an industry with extremely high barriers of entry, has much more room for efficiency improvements that would enable them to reduce the price of their cars compared to their competitors. Tesla has also repeatedly dropped the price of their cars as their efficiency improves, which combined with their market demand puts heavy downward pressure on the price their competitors can charge.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

Yeah all that BIG ENVIRO money... not the oil companies

Post Obama, you could expect that to come in...

 

[ShadowRun]

Ah yes, who could forget a certain Floridian governor's spat with Disney.

they already had special privileges, FL made it a even playing field. This is the opposite what's going on in Cali, I am sure you where cheering on FL because of smaller businesses given a change to compete right? ya know steering subsidies to non-market leaders

 

[idrankyourbeer]

I agree. We should be aggressively pushing for better public infrastructure. I wonder what happened with California's proposed high speed rail

they have to wait for elon's self-driving and flying cars.