New Orleans removing confederate icons

[Cubo de Sangre]

We're talking about confederate "heroes".

What do you want me to say? That there should be a law against monuments to losers or that it's just in bad taste?

 

[Blood and Iron]

What's this supposed to accomplish?

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

This is horrible. They want to erase history and Robert E Lee was not a bad man.

I cannot get on board with my fellow progressives on this.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

Lincoln was a racist by definition. Look up his comments on 'the blacks'. But just because he was racist didnt mean he wanted blacks enslaved. Still should we tear down Lincoln memorials because he was racist? Same with Woodrow Wilson who was a great president.

 

[Bukowski82]

This is horrible. They want to erase history and Robert E Lee was not a bad man.

I cannot get on board with my fellow progressives on this.

Fuck Lee. He was a racist little bitch... Not to mention a traitor. Only mention if him should be a lesson in douchebaggery.

 

[7437]

This is horrible. They want to erase history and Robert E Lee was not a bad man.

I cannot get on board with my fellow progressives on this.

Robert E Lee betrayed America. If you betray America, you do not deserve to be canonized in our history. He belongs just under Benedict Arnold in history.

 

[Theoretically Speaking]

If I remember correctly, Abe Lincoln said that he didn't want to abolish slavery at the beginning of the civil war. The war wasn't started over slavery.

I'm glad the North won or we'd still have it today.

It was started because of slavery, the south was afraid that Lincoln would abolish it as president.

What Lincoln did say was that slavery wouldn't spread westward, that it would be contained...Which fucked over the south since congress would now be controlled by the free states.

 

[The Diplomat]

If I remember correctly, Abe Lincoln said that he didn't want to abolish slavery at the beginning of the civil war. The war wasn't started over slavery.

I'm glad the North won or we'd still have it today.

South Carolina seceded over slavery (because the ongoing trend at the time was to eventually end it), and Abe Lincoln's main goal was to preserve the union, and secession is illegal. The south fired first.

So it boils down to it starting over slavery. It may have just been one variable at the time among others (the South getting screwed by the North over taxation without representation, etc.) but it was the catalyst for SC to secede, thus starting the Civil War.

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

If it were just about slavery then why force states back into the union?

Because it would have been a strategic mistake not to?

We didn't make states out of WWII foes.

The US did absolutely occupy conquered territory in WW2.

In fact, US still occupies parts of Japan to this day.

 

[spin]

So Germany should have monuments to Leni Riefenstahl because she was a good director?

Good for New Orleans. Why any nation would allow monuments to a bunch of traitors to stand all across broad swaths of their country is beyond me.

They're traitors because they lost. Everyone in the original colonies is a traitor to the english crown, yet they aren't remembered as such villains.

The south can have their war heroes like anyone else.

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

They're traitors because they lost. Everyone in the original colonies is a traitor to the english crown, yet they aren't remembered as such villains.

The south can have their war heroes like anyone else.

Do you think if England had won the 1776 war US would have been allowed to keep statues of Washington everywhere?

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Because it would have been a strategic mistake not to?

Pretty much. Look at any talk of secession. People get all bent out of shape at the thought of losing claim to resources. They'll kill for them. Enraged from being jilted to boot!

 

[spin]

Do you think if England had won the 1776 war US would have been allowed to keep statues of Washington everywhere?

Right, should we behave like as a tyranny would?

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Made a poll for you guys

 

[Kardashians]

ew, u made a war room thread
judging you

 

[Kardashians]

lol oh fuck, my earring is stuck in my pillow some how?
um, pls send help

 

[M3t4tr0n]

ew, u made a war room thread
judging you

Be good or spankings for u

 

[Kardashians]

Be good or spankings for u

me be good?
you're the one making threads here :hmph

 

[M3t4tr0n]

me be good?
you're the one making threads here :hmph

Fine I won't make any more threads
):< never get to have fun

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Do you think if England had won the 1776 war US would have been allowed to keep statues of Washington everywhere?

Probably not. I wonder how long slavery would been around if England would have won.