New Jersey man summons the force in pitbull attack

[SalvadorAllende]

I can respect the consistency in your beliefs. I enjoy large dogs, but they should definitely be owned with full knowledge and understanding of their needs and capabilities.

The biggest issue with pitbull ownership is that they are high energy dogs that require serious exercise and mental simulation on a regular basis. If you don't fulfill their needs and keep them cooped up in a small home all the time they became neurotic, like any other animal with excess energy and boredom will exhibit.

I live in a big city and sometimes I see people walking their pits and other "big" dogs (not that pits are big) and I find it retarded since most of them live in apartments.
I get people might like some kind of particular breed and all, but they get too caught in seeing the dog as a possession instead of a living beign that has needs. They basically care more about themselves having a X race of dog than the poor creature itself.

Here in Buenos Aires the tendency is not towards pitbulls. Now the cool thing is to own a Pug or a French Bulldog which I think it's equally stupid. Those poor dogs can't even breathe properly. They should not even exist probably. They have a lot of health issues.

On the other hands my parents live in the country and have a lot of fields for their dogs. They have 5. While none of them is particularly big (bigger is a Rough Collie) I don't see why they should not be able to have a big dog.

Anyways. There is truth in what you say. Dogs need space.
When I backpack around the argentinian northwest I walk a lot in small villages. There most dogs are loose on the streets. Even those who have a house, people just let them loose and feed them at night.
I have walked through literally thousands of dogs but was attacked just once (by a German Shepperd in the middle of nowhere, scary shit).
Some dogs bark at you but they don't go anywhere near you. It's just a territorial thing. But most of them are not aggressive at all.

 

[j123]

You have no idea how dangerous it is to be a pit bull. No idea. You might be out there, cruising the streets and looking for babies to eat, and a dog catcher might just come out of nowhere and put you in the pound because you maimed someone.

Systematic dog-ism bro

 

[Legumes]

How is that fat fuck an “evidence based self defense trainer?” He should probably know that all the evidence suggests one of the best ways to defend yourself is to stay in shape.

If they can't stab(or in this case, bite) through all your fat layers, they can't hit vital organs.

 

[MescalineDreams]

I'd feel comfortable taking on 3 pitbulls in hand to hand

This guy played it well tho

Let out his war crys and alpha'd up

Respect

 

[MescalineDreams]

This pussy talkin about shooting dogs.. lol

U should be able to fight a dog off without killing it

 

[Post 2 Decision]

This pussy talkin about shooting dogs.. lol

U should be able to fight a dog off without killing it

He said he's maced 3 dogs too

Where the fuck is this dude going that he's been 'attacked' by dogs 3 times? Must be a fucking mailman...

 

[the ambush]

Why do Muricans/Canadians love getting ugly dogs with behaviour problems all the time, or just ugly dogs in general.

I see pits all the time around my area and at least 70% of the owners are actually middle classed white people that don't fit the stereotype of the ghetto owner, although those do exist, I see more white hipster types with pits these days, or some blonde young 20 something girl.

Morons, those are the types that personify the animal too much and think they're little sweety wont harm anyone, or some nannny dog, next thing you know a babies face is being mauled.

But why get some ugly pit instead of breeds like labs, huskies or samoyed, much better looking, more well behaved and smarter animals than some brutish looking ugly pit or simliar breeds.

I think home protection is important for a person, whether it is with a personal weapon and/or an animal. I happen to have an akita dog that I actively train & socialize to where he's not foaming at the mouth whenever he encounters a kid. However, genetics and heriditary make-up are naturally built in so I can rest easy at 1 or 2 am in the morning because he's a light sleeper and also reactionary to noise.

 

[StewDogg11]

Because they are virtue signalling.

I have gone into depth many times on the problems with Pit bulls. Yes it is the owner who ultimately makes the difference. The problem is, people have this illusion in their heads that a Pit Bull is no different than a Lab if you raise it on Love and cuddles. very few people are actually responsible pit Owners.

You can never take a day off. Can't say "I am too tired to give the dog 2 hours of exercise a day this week". And no walking it once around the block once so it can poop is not adequate. You are committing to 2 hours a day of exercise for the dog for the rest of its life. If you can't do that, Don't get a pit. No saying "I am to tired" after work. And you need to be the alpha. No it is not cute when the dog gives you puppy dog eyes and ignores your commands to stop stealing food or barges into the house before you. That means the dog thinks it is the boss and will ignore your commands under duress. A dog staring into a dog's eyes is actually rude in dog world. It is an expression of dominance. An obedient dog will look away out of respect to the pack leader instead of staring into your eyes for a minute straight.

A 20 year old hipster who weighs 90 lbs and can't hold a pit Bull back when it decides to go is a very dangerous thing. Especially since they are usually caught off guard by it. They raise it from the time its a puppy and socialize it somewhat and are convinced they can be trained to never fight other dogs. Or they think because it was submissive as a puppy around other dogs that it means they will be like that forever. Then the dog reaches adolescence and its personality undergoes an overhaul and "catches them by surprise" one day when it attacks another dog without signalling.

And they are usually terrible Pit Bull owners. Honestly an alpha trashy muscle dude can at least control his dog.

Spreading the gospel that a pit is a gentle animal for a lazy family that won't train or exercise it or be responsible owners is nearly just as bad as a ghetto dirtbag owner. If you do that with a Lab, the results are almost always still safe, aside from some destroyed furniture and the occasional puncture wound. With a pit, it is dangerous. To your property and especially to other dogs or cats around it can get to.

But people get these silly assumptions that a "bad owner" means you beat the dog and train it to attack" when they don't realize neglect and laziness make you JUST AS BAD a pit owner.

Jgarner and I have had several talks on this subject. I know just by his answers he is a good responsible dog owner. He is just knee jerk reacting to posts like "exterminate all pits" the same way you people knee jerk react and say "destroy all pits".

Just did a test run on my dog. He looked away and refused to stare. Alpha pack leader right here!

 

[StewDogg11]

Why do Muricans/Canadians love getting ugly dogs with behaviour problems all the time, or just ugly dogs in general.

I see pits all the time around my area and at least 70% of the owners are actually middle classed white people that don't fit the stereotype of the ghetto owner, although those do exist, I see more white hipster types with pits these days, or some blonde young 20 something girl.

Morons, those are the types that personify the animal too much and think they're little sweety wont harm anyone, or some nannny dog, next thing you know a babies face is being mauled.

But why they get some ugly pit instead of breeds like labs, huskies or samoyed, much better looking, more well behaved and smarter animals than some brutish looking ugly pit or simliar breeds.

“Pit Bulls” actually rank anywhere from average to above average on the doggy IQ scale.

 

[bufetadanacara]

I live in a big city and sometimes I see people walking their pits and other "big" dogs (not that pits are big) and I find it retarded since most of them live in apartments.
I get people might like some kind of particular breed and all, but they get too caught in seeing the dog as a possession instead of a living beign that has needs. They basically care more about themselves having a X race of dog than the poor creature itself.

Here in Buenos Aires the tendency is not towards pitbulls. Now the cool thing is to own a Pug or a French Bulldog which I think it's equally stupid. Those poor dogs can't even breathe properly. They should not even exist probably. They have a lot of health issues.

On the other hands my parents live in the country and have a lot of fields for their dogs. They have 5. While none of them is particularly big (bigger is a Rough Collie) I don't see why they should not be able to have a big dog.

Anyways. There is truth in what you say. Dogs need space.
When I backpack around the argentinian northwest I walk a lot in small villages. There most dogs are loose on the streets. Even those who have a house, people just let them loose and feed them at night.
I have walked through literally thousands of dogs but was attacked just once (by a German Shepperd in the middle of nowhere, scary shit).
Some dogs bark at you but they don't go anywhere near you. It's just a territorial thing. But most of them are not aggressive at all.

I can respect the consistency in your beliefs. I enjoy large dogs, but they should definitely be owned with full knowledge and understanding of their needs and capabilities.

The biggest issue with pitbull ownership is that they are high energy dogs that require serious exercise and mental simulation on a regular basis. If you don't fulfill their needs and keep them cooped up in a small home all the time they became neurotic, like any other animal with excess energy and boredom will exhibit.

@bufetadanacara

No offense, but I find your belief that the APBT is somehow the only dog breed that attacks for no reason to be retarded. And you just clearly refuted your own point by pointing out that one dog had a history of aggressive behavior. You were likely missing body indicators the dog was showing prior to the behavior because you weren't paying attention to it. And by the way, that's not even an attack. That's aggressive behavior, of which it had a history.

Just know that literally all the professionals in the veterinary and dog training fields disagree with your assessment that the APBT is somehow more aggressive than other breeds. It's by far not the most aggressive dog breed around.

The dog apparently had no prior history of aggressiveness. I'd meet it many times, always licked me, rubbed its face in my beard, wanted to be petted, etc- normal friendly dog behaviour. It just suddenly snapped one day, apparently for the first time ever. Then did it again about a week later. There were no missing indicators, no signs. I've owned and been around dogs for over 40 years, I've lived in places with more stray dogs than residents- only had 2 dogs ever turn on me- both were pitbulls. You can site any study you wish to, but I'll only believe what I've seen and experienced for myself. Pitbulls are mentally unstable.

 

[DoomPatrol]

The dog apparently had no prior history of aggressiveness. I'd meet it many times, always licked me, rubbed its face in my beard, wanted to be petted, etc- normal friendly dog behaviour. It just suddenly snapped one day, apparently for the first time ever. Then did it again about a week later. There were no missing indicators, no signs. I've owned and been around dogs for over 40 years, I've lived in places with more stray dogs than residents- only had 2 dogs ever turn on me- both were pitbulls. You can site any study you wish to, but I'll only believe what I've seen and experienced for myself. Pitbulls are mentally unstable.

So the fact that my ex had a Labrador bite her in the face for no apparent reason means that regardless of any study people want to cite, since I've only ever seen a lab bite someone like that then labs are now the only unstable breed?

Is this how personal experience works with science now?

 

[vanillaisis]

One time my kitten was outside and I heard some noise outside like my cat getting mangled so I run outside into a group of 4 big ass dogs and they all scattered. Got my little baby kitten and took it inside with me. Savages tried to kill my cat. Lucky they didn't try to kill me.

 

[IloveTHIS]

This pussy talkin about shooting dogs.. lol

U should be able to fight a dog off without killing it

let it live another day, so it can get grandma who cant fight it of the next the day

 

[the ambush]

“Pit Bulls” actually rank anywhere from average to above average on the doggy IQ scale.

I suppose @Killuminatrix would no longer like to post in this thread anymore. Sherdog can be a fickle place sometimes, huh?

 

[Philo-Publius]

Hoodie wearing Luke Skywalker understudy wields metal pipe defending life and limb from 3 charging pitbulls in the small New Jersey township of Little Egg Harbor.



The three dogs, owned by Esau Morales, were responsible for attacking 12 people in a span of 4 months.

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/new...ed-after-terrorizing-nj-neighborhood/2287429/

Based on the tone of that video, this probably should have been posted in the War Room.

New Jersey's laws definitely make it too difficult to conceal carry because you have to prove a "need" to carry a fire arm (like an occupation or a direct threat), which should be unconstitutional. There is always a threat (particularly in major metropolitan areas). New Jersey's laws also can put you at risk when you defend yourself with a firearm. It's too easy to be charged with a crime there if you are just defending yourself or others, which is why I also have a problem with laws that equate the lives of animals with human beings. At what point could this man have been charged with a crime for defending himself against these animals if he did have a gun to open fire?

 

[MMAGA]

3 heroic pitbulls fend off dangerous man with a pipe.

“Tonight on CNN...”

 

[MMAGA]

No, I own a Cane Corso, which is a dog that's probably 100x more dangerous than any APBT you'll find, but you probably couldn't care less about them because they aren't as popular as mastiffs.

But what would I know about dangerous dogs? I've only been training dogs in Schutzhund for years.

I’ve NEVER met anyone who owns a Cane Corso, but I’ve met hundreds of people who own pit bulls. The difference is clearly the overbreeding of these particular dogs of peace!

 

[mime]

Pitbulls dont bite people. People, Chinese people bite pitbulls.

 

[MicroBrew]

bring on pitbull memes

 

[Brendon Katz]

Howd those dogs know to run from the cops?????