" journeyman " doesn't apply to Nate. " gatekeeper " is a befitting label.
Nate fighting anyone in the Lightweight Top 5 except Tony would be a travesty IMO. He's done nothing to earn it. Tony would at least be a fun scrap and excusable on the grounds that Ferguson is on the decline and a loss streak.
Somebody else in the Top 15 makes more sense. He could be Kevin Lee's comeback fight to see if FKL has improved any during his layoff. Iaquinta hasn't been active for a while and would be a good welcome back to the division. If they're looking for bigger names willing to scrap and make a bloodbath of a Fight Night headliner, then Felder's the man and I bet he'd accept. Then there's always an RDA rematch.
All of these are better options to me than denying Oliveira his well-deserved title run or forcing JG to play "welcome back" committee to a guy who hasn't won a fight at 155 since December of 2015 (against someone who is currently 11-12 in the UFC on a 3-fight loss streak), missed weight in the fight before that, and has a 10-6 record in the division. Hell, Nate didn't fight at all in 2020, either. His last bout was in November of 2019 against Jorge -- a TKO loss at Welterweight. Why on Earth he'd get to skip the line a weight class down is beyond me.
But judging by Dana's rhetoric surrounding the fight, I'm sure it's going to be Gaethje or something. You know, "for the fans".
I agree except there's no way Tony is Top 5 after losing his last two fights and 8 straight rounds. He's almost 37 and his best days are clearly behind him.
It’s absolutely insane the power of beating Conrad
Nate never was anything but a journeyman
I think both are unfair. He may be a gatekeeper these days, but several years back he had a good run and earned a TS against Benson. He lost the fight, but he was definitely a legit contender/title challenger at that time." journeyman " doesn't apply to Nate. " gatekeeper " is a befitting label.
Ok- I absolutely agree ??True, but I'd say a former LW gatekeeper who's now a very inactive WW. I don't see any reason for him to fight a Top 5 LW right now. Felder or Ferguson would make sense. Sadly, I think Tony is more shopworn than Nate and would probably lose.
There have been plenty of eventual gatekeepers that have gotten failed bids at title shots.I think both are unfair. He may be a gatekeeper these days, but several years back he had a good run and earned a TS against Benson. He lost the fight, but he was definitely a legit contender/title challenger at that time.
It's so annoying that Khabib doesn't want to fight anymore (except maybe 1 fight). He could be truly one of the best if he tries to get to 35-0. Let's say he fights: McGregor, GSP, Nate Diaz, Charles Oliveira, Tony Ferguson and whoever is WW champ as a last fight, that would be legendary.
Now, he's the best LW ever. If he beats that list of guys, he could be the greatest MMA fighter ever (or 2nd greatest if Jones continues to win).
I think Nate is only coming back for Conor trilogy at this point. He is not going to fight a contender without a big name like Charles.
The only thing people remember him for is beating Conrad
that speaks volumes
It's so annoying that Khabib doesn't want to fight anymore (except maybe 1 fight). He could be truly one of the best if he tries to get to 35-0. Let's say he fights: McGregor, GSP, Nate Diaz, Charles Oliveira, Tony Ferguson and whoever is WW champ as a last fight, that would be legendary.
Now, he's the best LW ever. If he beats that list of guys, he could be the greatest MMA fighter ever (or 2nd greatest if Jones continues to win).
Answers like that are just Nate working his gimmick I think.There have been plenty of eventual gatekeepers that have gotten failed bids at title shots.
I look at Nates career and outside of Conor fight , his win as an underdog to a then decent cerrone........ hes been mollywhopped by every top lightweight and his personal self reflection of himself is quite amusing. I bring up a quote by Nate on 2 different occasions this past year( same quote ) " I've been winning forever " ( this being part of an answer given by a question).
You gotta be kidding me.
Beating the WW champ does do a lot for his legacy. Oliveira would the best BJJ guy he has ever faced, would be a great fight.Except for GSP, none of those fights makes sense for Khabib, nor does it do much for his legacy tbh.
McGregor = already beaten, dominant win for Khabib
Olivera = amazing fantasy fight for hardcore fans but no name value.
Nate = beside the fact that Khabib mops the floor with Nate, that fight makes no sense whatsoever, come on now.
Ferguson = 37 yo and on a 2-fight losing streak, that ship has sailed - unfortunately.