Nate Diaz and Jake Paul agreed to fight in MMA for rematch in PFL

[Goutfather]

with jake’s work ethic and resources, i don’t doubt he could win an mma fight in ufc. but it would probably need to follow a similar formula as his boxing career—find old, or one dimensional fighters who are willing to stand and trade punches. nate would be an ideal fight because he’s content to stand the whole time, and he probably won’t try to use his bjj unless he’s taken down.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

sure, he can beat guys in MMA just like he beat guys in boxing. carefully picking the right matchups. small/old/non-strikers. i want to see him fight someone his size who is his age. when that happened in boxing, he lost.

 

[eddiedingle]

Jake Paul simps get the rope

 

[amok attitude]

How in the fucking world Jake Paul, who is not an MMA practitionner, beat an "active" veteran ?!
Highschool wrestling ? Are we serious here.
Nate fucking chocked him standing during their boxing bout!
The level of disrespect for fighters skills here is unbelieveable.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Nate absolutely whoops him. However if you disagree you can get some nice odds on it at the moment.

 

[Mr. Super Necessary]

I agree. Nate probably knows it too hence why he seems to sheepish about accepting; which was a great move by Jake to push that, as we all know Nate woulda been like 'yeah but he won't fight me for real! I'm too real for boxing!' otherwise.

 

[MMAProfessional]

Its a very unpopular opinion, but I think the fight is very winnable for boxer Jake Paul.

I see every MMA outlet saying Diaz wins it within a minute but I'm not entirely sure that's true. Nate is -1200 with the potential fight and jake is +650. If it happens I might throw 20 bucks on Jake.

 

[MMAProfessional]

Considering Paul is 2 weight classes bigger - sure he’d have a chance

size does matter

Both stink though

I'm not confident that Diaz can blitz a win in the first minute like everyone says. Nate is old and a lot smaller. I would assume he wins but this reminds me of every time Jake has boxed MMA fighters. I listen to a lot of MMA content and every fight he had the media took Jake's opponent. Even the Nate Robinson fight they say he's an A+ athlete and should win and they even took Askren for f sake.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

How in the fucking world Jake Paul, who is not an MMA practitionner, beat an "active" veteran ?!

A few years ago people would have said this about a boxing match between them too.

Nate is kind of a stylistic anomaly in MMA and it works heavily in Jakes favour. Most other fighters would aggressively chase the takedown and/or kick the shit out of his lead leg.

 

[OleBuffalo]

It'll end up on the ground at some point and Diaz will strangle him.

Idk why ppl act like wrestling tds are the only way a fight gets to the ground, someone made this same thread the other day. It’s especially overly simplistic when we’re talking about the sloppiness that a guy w no mma fights would bring to the cage.

Seems wild to think they wouldn’t end up on the ground at some point be it from Nate’s trips/little judo shit in the clinch or any of the other possible
scenarios an amateur fighter could end up in

 

[amok attitude]

A few years ago people would have said this about a boxing match between them too.

Nate is kind of a stylistic anomaly in MMA and it works heavily in Jakes favour. Most other fighters would aggressively chase the takedown and/or kick the shit out of his lead leg.

Paul is not an MMA practitionner, how could he beat Diaz ?
I dont know what "people" said years ago and i dont give a damn.
I d like to know how someone who never did bjj, who barely knows wrestling, who cannot throw a kick and who never learnt how to transition between all those aspects would beat Diaz, a dude who practice the sport for 20 years.
Even with a Diaz at the end of his career, it makes no sense.

 

[wildchild88]

How in the fucking world Jake Paul, who is not an MMA practitionner, beat an "active" veteran ?!
Highschool wrestling ? Are we serious here.
Nate fucking chocked him standing during their boxing bout!
The level of disrespect for fighters skills here is unbelieveable.

It's not disrespect, it's analysis.

1.) Nate doesn't kick well, JP with a good 6 month camp could probably kick better than Nate.

2.) JP proved he has better boxing.

3.) JP is a better athlete, bigger, and about to hit his prime. - Nate is pushing 40, and has a ton of mileage.

4.) Nate doesn't have good takedowns, JP has trained wrestling and could probably develop respectable TDD in a few months..

All valid reasons that JP could beat him.

 

[Mga223]

I see every MMA outlet saying Diaz wins it within a minute but I'm not entirely sure that's true. Nate is -1200 with the potential fight and jake is +650. If it happens I might throw 20 bucks on Jake.

Geez at those odds you'd have to throw 20 on Jake.

Especially since boxing gloves are cushions compared to MMA gloves.

 

[amok attitude]

It's not disrespect, it's analysis.

1.) Nate doesn't kick well, JP with a good 6 month camp could probably kick better than Nate.

2.) JP proved he has better boxing.

3.) JP is a better athlete, bigger, and about to hit his prime. - Nate is pushing 40, and has a ton of mileage.

4.) Nate doesn't have good takedowns, JP has trained wrestling and could probably develop respectable TDD in a few months..

All valid reasons that JP would beat him.

I dont want to be mean cause we are only chatting on internet but calling that "analysis" is a bit much, sorry mate.
Paul does not have better MMA striking or even MMA boxing than Diaz, he just proved he can edge him in a boxing fight, not an MMA fight.
Thats the only thing Paul has for him btw.
Kicking ? 6 months ? Come on.
Its not even the fact that he cannot learn to throw a kick, move his hips etc, its simply that he will not be able to mix that, boxing, clinching, wrestling, bjj in few months in order to edge a 20 years vet, who is still active.
I witness kb elite champion training for years and having troubles transitioning to MMA, its not Paul, a semi pro boxer, who is gonna be a credible threat in MMA to an elite MMA vet like Diaz.

 

[Pechan]

Yep, no TDs, no kicks, it would be a boxing match with some clinch work against the fence.

 

[Pechan]

I dont want to be mean cause we are only chatting on internet but calling that "analysis" is a bit much, sorry mate.
Paul does not have better MMA striking or even MMA boxing than Diaz, he just proved he can edge him in a boxing fight, not an MMA fight.
Thats the only thing Paul has for him btw.
Kicking ? 6 months ? Come on.
Its not even the fact that he cannot learn to throw a kick, move his hips etc, its simply that he will not be able to mix that, boxing, clinching, wrestling, bjj in few months in order to edge a 20 years vet, who is still active.
I witness kb elite champion training for years and having troubles transitioning to MMA, its not Paul, a semi pro boxer, who is gonna be a credible threat in MMA to an elite MMA vet like Diaz.

Ehh Nate is far from elite in mma...

 

[Connection Lost]

Mods: this is a mainstream topic and deserves to be in the heavies.

Diaz can't kick, Paul outstrikes him.

Jake Paul was a decent highschool wrestler, with a training camp intensive I think he would be able to stop Diaz's TD's who has below average takedowns.

The fight would also be at 185, so Diaz would be extra skinny fat once more.

Oh the humiliation..

<{chips}>

Edit: I'm no JP fan btw.

Can we just stop jacking off and demand that Jake fights someone his own age and size?

 

[NoSmilez]

I think Nate wins but it's not going to be easy. He has zero takedowns and it is obvious he is losing a step on his feet.

 

[chillyoo]

JP can’t defend that kinda JJ, he’d probably get choked out of the clinch and go to his back or nap

he’s was a HS wrestler. Good for him out

 

[wildchild88]

I dont want to be mean cause we are only chatting on internet but calling that "analysis" is a bit much, sorry mate.
Paul does not have better MMA striking or even MMA boxing than Diaz, he just proved he can edge him in a boxing fight, not an MMA fight.
Thats the only thing Paul has for him btw.
Kicking ? 6 months ? Come on.
Its not even the fact that he cannot learn to throw a kick, move his hips etc, its simply that he will not be able to mix that, boxing, clinching, wrestling, bjj in few months in order to edge a 20 years vet, who is still active.
I witness kb elite champion training for years and having troubles transitioning to MMA, its not Paul, a semi pro boxer, who is gonna be a credible threat in MMA to an elite MMA vet like Diaz.

Yeah look that's fair.

I don't see Jake beating other good WW's in mma. I just think of anyone, Nate is a good stylistic match up for Jake.

Nate isn't good at any of the potential foil areas for JP.

I can't recall the last time Diaz threw a damaging kick..

Most dangerous place for Jake would be in the clinch and the potential for Diaz to get a standing back take, or just drag Jake to the mat, fight would be over pretty quick then.

JP and his team are very good at strategy and focused training, I think they'd do a decent job at patching up those vulnerable areas.

Plus Nate'll be older, and JP will be closer to his prime..

Just my take.