News Multiple Fighters Confirm They’ve Been Asked to Fix Fights in Another Black Eye for UFC

[xhaydenx]

So yes...but those algorithms that picked that up also tell us in this case someone WAS seemingly dumb enough to think they'd get away with it. They not only got all sorts of late action from dormant accounts on Del Valle, they got a bunch of action on Del Valle rd 1.

You're absolutely right that people thinking they can get enough down on these prelim fights (especially props with +700 odds or whatever) are idiots. Even large books aren't going to accept huge exposure on something they normally don't get much action on--for this exact reason. It tells you plenty that even the amount they did accept set off all their red flags. They have automated systems looking at EVERYTHING.

Yeh, and it's automated so the stakes don't even matter. When you click to place a bet, there's so many checks it does against not just the current market for the bet, but also for your account, before they actually accept your bet.

Like, I used to have certain types of bets take 2 mins to go through because their system had to look at it over and then sometimes their market team had to personally review it quickly.

Nowadays there's some bets I do they just automatically limit me to a %. They definitely picked up on me last year betting half a unit on every WMMA fight to have a finish at stupidly high odds lol. Didn't matter if I was putting 10 bux or 500 bux on these bets either. It probably didn't help that there was likely no one else on these bookies always betting girls to finish on fights that looked like a lock for a decision lol.

That's the sort of effort they go to in order to protect themselves from honest gamblers. Imagine how much more vigilant they are against those that are actively trying to make the most of fight fixing lol.

It is wild though that dormant sharp accounts were trying to suddenly bet big on the Dulgarian fight lol. Like, how much dumber can you get? As if you weren't getting instantly noticed.

 

[mkess101]

Yeh, and it's automated so the stakes don't even matter. When you click to place a bet, there's so many checks it does against not just the current market for the bet, but also for your account, before they actually accept your bet.

Like, I used to have certain types of bets take 2 mins to go through because their system had to look at it over and then sometimes their market team had to personally review it quickly.

Nowadays there's some bets I do they just automatically limit me to a %. They definitely picked up on me last year betting half a unit on every WMMA fight to have a finish at stupidly high odds lol. Didn't matter if I was putting 10 bux or 500 bux on these bets either. It probably didn't help that there was likely no one else on these bookies always betting girls to finish on fights that looked like a lock for a decision lol.

That's the sort of effort they go to in order to protect themselves from honest gamblers. Imagine how much more vigilant they are against those that are actively trying to make the most of fight fixing lol.

It is wild though that dormant sharp accounts were trying to suddenly bet big on the Dulgarian fight lol. Like, how much dumber can you get? As if you weren't getting instantly noticed.

For sure. There are ways to not be tracked to an account though. The casino I go to offers every bet they have on their kiosks that print out actual paper tickets. Now, obviously you have to cash them in when you win but they do have automated machines that do that too.

So conceivably a group floods the kiosks and puts cash into them and hammers Del Valle rd 1 at +700 or whatever it was and get our paper tickets. It probably sets off red flags (definitely does) but what does the casino do then? Refuse to grade the outcome on that play so that the group can't just take their winning tickets to the cash-in kiosks and get paid? Maybe?

 

[xhaydenx]

For sure. There are ways to not be tracked to an account though. The casino I go to offers every bet they have on their kiosks that print out actual paper tickets. Now, obviously you have to cash them in when you win but they do have automated machines that do that too.

So conceivably a group floods the kiosks and puts cash into them and hammers Del Valle rd 1 at +700 or whatever it was and get our paper tickets. It probably sets off red flags (definitely does) but what does the casino do then? Refuse to grade the outcome on that play so that the group can't just take their winning tickets to the cash-in kiosks and get paid? Maybe?

If they thought they were getting screwed, I imagine they'd definitely put a hold on letting you cash those tickets.

Man, I don't think we have any of those sorts of places in Australia. I wish we did lol. Has to make getting around limits easier.

 

[mkess101]

If they thought they were getting screwed, I imagine they'd definitely put a hold on letting you cash those tickets.

Man, I don't think we have any of those sorts of places in Australia. I wish we did lol. Has to make getting around limits easier.

It does for sure. I've hit some plays that absolutely would've got me limited on MMA but just a paper ticket from a kiosk and cashed at a kiosk. They could look at the tape and known what I look like obviously if they wanted, but there's no digital trail of who made the bets.

 

[PrideNverDies]

Well we can all agree Gane took a dive against Jones now lol

 

[KO Shotz]

Conor vs Mendes was definitely rigged. Mendes controlled Conor on the ground for almost a round. When Conor landed one knockdown punch the referee immediately declared a TKO.

Conor being matched up with Siver instead of a full camp Mendes or Frankie Edgar is when I began to see that the UFC was not at all what it used to be. Then being granted a title shot after that win was the nail in the coffin for me accepting the new entertainment era.

 

[Tapatio]

They should blame Uncle Fake Tough Guy, the Bald Bitch himself Dana White. Dude has always been a piece of shit. They need to move on without him.

 

[Kindjal]

I'd probably feel bad about this scandal if I paid to watch UFC.

 

[YEET]

Conor vs Mendes was definitely rigged. Mendes controlled Conor on the ground for almost a round. When Conor landed one knockdown punch the referee immediately declared a TKO.

I don’t think that was rigged. Mendes was fading after having like 10 days notice to fight and Conor landed a clean shot.

 

[Luthien]

Factory X has just been raided by the feds

 

[mkess101]

Factory X has just been raided by the feds

Holy shit.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Factory X has just been raided by the feds

I'm not taking anything that guy says as fact. Still nothing he's talked about has been proven. Any point about Dulgarian was made here before the fight even started during the lines shifting.

Herzog reached out to him asking him to take down the post accusing him of being investigated and he threw a childish tantrum instead while posting DMs.

Just seems like some grifter who finally had a hit tweet and is now trying to overly involve himself as if he's Inspector Poirot.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

I'm not taking anything that guy says as fact. Still nothing he's talked about has been proven. Any point about Dulgarian was made here before the fight even started during the lines shifting.

Herzog reached out to him asking him to take down the post accusing him of being investigated and he threw a childish tantrum instead while posting DMs.

Just seems like some grifter who finally had a hit tweet and is now trying to overly involve himself as if he's Inspector Poirot.

Yea, this is being denied by the gym, so I'm 90% sure this guy is just entirely full of shit.


I believe Dulgarian threw the fight, but this guy is muddying the waters for clicks IMO
He's gained 4k followers since his first post, and this has probably pushed him into monetization, so expect a lot more ALL CAPITAL LETTER BREAKING tweets from that goober.

 

[Equinox Shadow]

Dana White and UFC only have themselves to blame. UFC pays such horrible prize money to most fighters. Some fighters are going to be tempted to side hustle for extra $$$. And that side hustle might be throwing a fight, which gets them a much bigger payout than their fight contract.

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

Factory X has just been raided by the feds

What's factory x

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

What's factory x

MMA gym ran by Marc Montoya out of Colorado

 

[Söze Aldo]

Dana White and UFC only have themselves to blame. UFC pays such horrible prize money to most fighters. Some fighters are going to be tempted to side hustle for extra $$$. And that side hustle might be throwing a fight, which gets them a much bigger payout than their fight contract.

The UFC is a bush league in a Gucci belt.

 

[MLarson]

Pretty scathing, is there no thread on this yet? I know everyone can list the well-known ones, but what other ones have been "SUS" in recent times -- and how far do you think this goes?

Happens in all sports/competitions/tiers which sucks, we all want...



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Multiple Fighters Confirm They’ve Been Asked to Fix Fights in Another Black Eye for UFC

Multiple UFC fighters have come out to confirm that they've been approached to fix fights in what is quickly becoming a massive scandal for the company.

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Multiple UFC fighters have come forward to confirm that they’ve been approached to fix fights in what is quickly becoming a massive scandal for the company.


The controversy began Sunday when UFC reporter Ariel Helwani revealed that featherweight fighter Isaac Dulgarian had been released following his loss on Saturday. Dulgarian was the favorite going into the bout, and suspicious betting activity flagged earlier cast doubt on the nature of the upset loss.


A day later, Helwani revealed on his show that sources had come forward and told me they either were approached or knew a fighter who was approached with an offer to fix a fight for money. Helwani called it a “massive issue” for the UFC.


In the hours following the airing of that episode, at least three active fights confirmed Helwani’s reporting by sharing firsthand experience of the alleged dealings. In a pair of deleted tweets, featherweight fighter Vince Morales said he’d been asked to fix fights in the past, but declined, saying “it’s not something I could live with.” When asked how much he was offered, Morales said $70,000. (LINK)

I'm sure this has been posted but

 

[Slapjit]

Yaar that is certainly hella dirty fasho buddy ji

They really are out here suggesting foenem to rig the fight haanji that is weak to me

 

[jooohnmatrix]

Eddie Alvarez got paid six million dollars and was allowed to leave after his fight with McGregor.