More skilled fighter - GSP or Jones?

[JKS]

GSP was a more skilled fighter.

 

[Jedijiujitsu]

i would say jon jones because everything he does is a tiny bit better than gsp.

striking - jon jones is more creative and effective with his strikes. he sees a limb he might yank on it then elbow you in the head. you never know with jon

wrestling - this is where they're probably the closest. and tbh gsp looks like a more dominant wrestler so id actually pick gsp here.

jiu jitsu - jonny bones man. when he submitted bader he literally learned it from watching gsp drill it THAT DAY. thats the type of level jones is, learns it in one day and pulls it off on a professional fighter.

 

[ThunderStruck]

It's got to be Jones. He has skills. While GSP overpowers his opponents most of the time. Did GSP ever fight opposition who were legit and stronger than him? On those occasions he either lost - Serra or had marginal advantage - think Hendricks.

Bones is all that, natural fighter.

Spoken like a true newb.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Kickboxing-Jones
Boxing-gsp
Wrestling-Jones
Overall grappling+submissions+sub defense-Jones

Besides raw skills
Chin-Jones
Heart-Jones
Fight iq- TIE


Jones>GSP in terms of skills, resume, and GOATness.

Wrestling goes to Jones? LOLLLLL

 

[ThunderStruck]

Hey, just saying, “green” JJ wasnt making epic fails like that.....

And to even try to lock a two-on-one as GSP did at that time, was an elementary level mistake. To already be a top level guy and even fish for that move was no excuse....

Green Jones never fought a prime Hughes. He was fighting washed up LHWs.

 

[GrayArea]

Wrestling goes to Jones? LOLLLLL

Jones taking down and avoiding DC’s wrestling control trumps any wrestling accomplishment you want to over exaggerate about Georges.

But go ahead and try.

 

[tenniswhiz]

GSP is more knowledgeable about the martial arts and has the most complex training regime. He could be his own coach. GSP fought better competition than Jones, and maybe Jones showed some variety, but it doesn't mean he's more skilled.

GSP and Aldo are possibly most proficient fighters in MMA's brief history.

Agree.

But Jones is classier and more humble than GSP.
Is GSP even Christian?

 

[HendoIsChamp]

Jones is huge for his division where GSP was just an average ww. Both are great but only one has done it without taking advantage of their size.

 

[The Hash Slinging Slasher]

Both Guys have their strong points
Boxing-GSP
Kicking-Jones
Wrestling-tie
Fight IQ-Jones
GSP is an insane athlete because he wants to be, so he made it happen.
Jones is an insane athlete because of genetics and roids.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Jones taking down and avoiding DC’s wrestling control trumps any wrestling accomplishment you want to over exaggerate about Georges.

But go ahead and try.

Jones' pathetic takedowns attempts in round one against Gus and Gus taking him down several times proves that his wrestling is 100% overrated. Have you ever seen GSP get taken down or stuffed like that against a pure striker?

Jones wrestling feat against DC are vastly overrated. LHW DC isn't the same fighter as HW DC.

 

[mallen7272]

GSP fought more fighters in their prime.

 

[Bjjpitbull8]

 

[Area809]

They are easily the two most skilled fighters ever. When you’re at that level, you can pretty much say they’re equal. At their best, both fighters separated themselves from the pack by miles. Who has the best skills? That’s hard to say. They both have the skills to keep the fight where it’s most advantageous for each other.

 

[Deleted member 347815]

GSP didn't have the same physical advantages Jon has over his opponents. Its one of the reason he avoids HW like the plague.

 

[bjpenngoat]

Bones by miles.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

I am not a big Jon Jones fan and I love GSP infinitely more but Jon Jones is dangerous in every position. For GSP the bulk of your strat is to stop GSP from trying to get you to the ground and then holding you there. You are walking on egg shells with a guy like Jon Jones.

 

[CodeBreaker]

Strategically - GSP

Talent - Jon Jones

Jon has the better fight IQ

 

[It Just Is]

Jon is more creative, lethal, can fight in the clinch and from a distance and has better situational awareness. GSP is likely more techical with his striking, conservative, but more explosive. I don't think GSP has better wrestling than Jon. GSP has a higher percentage shot and better double leg, probably one of the best. His top game focusses more on control and has a better chance of keeping his foe pinned until victory.

Jon may lose top control if he passes too soon or when he looks to finish, but Jon is more dangerous on top. His GNP and submissions are among the best. A fighter can surive with GSP on top for awhile, Jones will end the fight if he's on top for more than a minute or so. Any opponent will struggle with both fighters. GSP will outstrike you or take you down and ride you out. His approach is simple, but it's perfected and sure to win almost all of the time. It's like no one can stop it. It's like GSP wrote the formula for MMA.

Jon has a base strategy also, but with multiple avenues to victory depending on how he's fought. Get passed his reach, he'll look for TDs or clinch fight. If you box him, he'll kick you. If you grapple him, he'll use knees and elbows from the clinch or go for weird lock ups or submissions. If a fighter just keeps to the outside, he'll kick. Jon is lulling people into a trap. GSP show's the plan, and beats you by the plan because he knows it better than you.

Hard to say who is the better fighter. But, I doubt few would prefer to fight Jon over GSP.

 

[GSP_37]

Hard to say. I assume GSP knows more since he's spending his own money to bring in experts and travel to experts, but Jones dares to try stuff during competition.

 

[Mr.Burns]

GSP is total bum in comparison to JJ. GSP was beaten to pulp by Serra. He was given more than he could handle by fat Johnny Hendricks who matched GSP in power. GSP had more close fights where the decision was hanging by a thread, whereas JJ dominated most of his fights.

One more thing. GSP is a pussy compared to JJ. He complained about the groin to Greg Jackson, when the later told him to hit him with the groin. JJ stood (and fought - and WON) with a hanging phalanx off his toe. No complaints there.

GSP has no balls compared to JJ. You can shit on JJ for many reasons. But it is GSP who doesn't pay his rent. GSP is a washed up, JJ is in his prime. GSP will have troubles with Khabib, Woodley, Colby and Askren (all men of his size). He doesn't want to fight them - the are there calling him out.

Now tell me who in the UFC(or in other orgs) with similar weight to Jon would give Jon a competitive fight or even win it? He basically fought everyone and had his way with everyone.