why? because he spends more time on punching and in doing so he punches through opponents oppose to wild over hand punches thus throwing accurate punches. i've spared professional mma fighters and in comparison they still dont hit as hard as my sparing partner who happends to be canadian light heavey weight champion. in the end, it all evens out. the power punches in boxing are harder and so they use heavier gloves. mma hit lighter and they use lighter gloves. ppl talk about how amazing chuck is and all (not gonna rip him, he's too easy of a target) but i mean, good striker was prime tyson. guaranteed tyson hit harder with 16ounce gloves then chuck does with 4ounce gloves.
MMA your logic is flawed a MMA glove facilitates grappling not because MMA guys don't throw heavy! stance and intention is all relative here. A guy like Jermain Taylor gets scored on in boxing because he throws heavy (
reason I used Jermain Taylor cause I read a piece in Ringside magazine saying how hes out of position), is
off balance and
out of position he would be on his back in a MMA fight! Thats why you don't see that many guys shoot for takedowns in big show MMA after a punch or kick, except for in the old days. Cause guys throw with balance and not crazy heavy, and the ones that do don't last long at that level.
Okay did you spar with your "Canadian light heavyweight champ" in MMA if not its a moot point cause if you have half a brain, and any skills for MMA if
your boxing guy doesn't change his stance has his whiskers, and antennas up on for takedowns he wouldn't be able to throw as hard. Cause a boxers stance facilitates more power generated from the hips and legs. Also he wouldn't stand with one foot in front of the other cause you would be kick trying to kick his quadricep off! Furthermore so many belts floating around in boxing how does that reinforce your theory by mentioning your friend is a Canadian HW champ, you could've said your sparring partner was some random dude.
I'll agree a lot of beginners I see training MMA do spend to much time throwing unorthodox punches (
and advanced grappling they saw on a instructional for that matter) instead of working on the basic, but that comes from watching their idol Chuck Lidell. On the other hand the same can be said for beginner boxers how many do you see working on basic technique but instead they work on Jamey Toney shoulder roll, Roy Jones pretty shit.
Unorthodox punches have a greater chance of scoring whereas in Boxing the gloves are bigger. Furthermore more a lot of standout grapplers in MMA throw unorthordox hay-makers to move forward into clinch range. They also do this cause they are so confident in the grappling they don't care about getting taken down (see BJ Penn and Hermes Franca).
Boxing pundits used to say the same thing about a bolo punch but you see it now in everybodies focus mitt routine
Old school bare-knuckle boxing matches went on for hours. The longest boxing match in history was Andy Bowen vs Jack Burke, and they didn't wear any gloves.
They fought 110 rounds, 7 hours and 19 minutes. The fight ended as a draw because both boxers were too exhausted to continue.
Just something to think about.
Those rounds had to be less than 3 minutes, and those guys didn't fight that long because they were studs they only threw a couple punches a round, and they wouldn't stand, and trade if they knew their opponent had any considerable skill.
That's a perfect way to block punches with small gloves. But still do boxing gloves make it much easier to block.
When I say shell I don't mean the "Philly shell" help me out, I mean umm whats that when a guy puts his elbows together not in a X motion, but gloves turned inwards. THat technique sucks for muay thai knees and elbows down the pipe in MMA. I guy with decent muay thai with half a brain is gonna try to destroy your forearms.
I am not so sure...they both hurt to tell you the truth. I would say that the reason MMA'ers wear the boxing gloves while sparring is that they call for a person to really get their timing down. If you have never sparred with the boxing gloves and you put a pair on it will suddenly seem like there are few if any openings. And the openings that are there usually go away rather quickly. So the advantage in wearing the boxing gloves isnt so much that they dont hurt but that you really need to get your timing down in order for them to hurt...timing or speed
I can see how sparring with boxing gloves improves your offense what about defense, defense wins championships.
at my gym when we spar sometimes we "grapple-box", which is like mma with boxing gloves, and when we do that we usually go about 80% force with the punches and yeah it hurts but not as bad as when you get hit with an mma glove, the boxing glove might give your more momentum behind a punch but your logic is wrong. sorry.
Next time when you watching MMA sparring in your gym with boxing gloves see if you notice guys staying in the pocket a whole more, and throwing 4 or 5 punch combos, which is pretty much none existent in MMA. Then take those glove off and spar in MMA gloves and notice the difference! Then tell everybody to go out and get the 6oz MMA training glove with the extra padding that century, title and combat sports make.
And you say I'm trying to disprove physics? :redface:
