MMA gloves vs Boxing gloves

[koreankid6413]

Originally posted by aceventura:
and what's the point arguing this anyways??
I think people are just bored at home, and want to talk about something apparently.

thats what forums are for

 

[seanjackson**]

unless your a fighter and knows what it feels like to get hit by boxing gloves AND mma gloves dont post here thinking you know what your talking about, and i'm not just talking about go out and grab some gloves and try it, i'm talking about real fighters, who train with these things everyday because unless your a fighter, the reality is you dont have a clue

haha, i wish you put that there before. it would have saved me the time of typing. i couldnt agree more. cheers bro.

 

[Black-Rob]

PLease let this thread die!!

and what's the point arguing this anyways??
I think people are just bored at home, and want to talk about something apparently.

Similar to yourself, right?:redface:

 

[AlbinoSoulBro]

Rather fight tyson with mma gloves, boxing gloves cause more long term damage to the brain i.e. better to get knocked out quick with mma gloves than get hit 50 times with boxing gloves (better for the health of your brain anyway)

It wouldn't matter if Tyson wore MMA gloves, no gloves, boxing gloves, or pillows. If he hit the average guy with them any one of us would be laying in a pile of our own excrement wondering WTF just happened.

 

[vominator]

Guess you missed the fire to the 32 story steel framed scyscraper in Madrid 2 years ago. The fire burned for 20 hours. The building didn't come crashing down into dust. They put a crane on the roof a week later to start rebuilding it. Pretty strong after a 20 hour fire to support a crane.

1)WTC's burned for 1.5 hours.
2)The first building hit....was the second to fall.
3)You still didn't comment on how they fell so fast. Same speed as if falling through air.
4)You still didn't comment how the WTC 7 fell without getting hit by a plane.......5 hours after the first 2 fell.
5)No steel framed building in the history of the world we live in has ever fell because of fires. Yet we get 3 in one day to fall. WTC 3, 4, 5, and 6 were right under the Twin Towers and got destroyed....yet the frames still stood. They had to be demolished. WTC 7, the newest and furtherest away from the Twin Towers turned to dust without the planes hitting them.

Looks like I'm winning this one hommie. Your turn. But before you insult me with the tin foil hat thingy, comment all those points for me will ya, without defying physics....then call me whatever you want.

LAME LAME

so that building in madrid was full of hydrocarbon fuels?

again, switch from safeway brand tinfoil to reynolds wrap. you'll notice a difference immediately I suspect.

PS LAME LAME

 

[chino0503]

I have been reading a bunch of people mentioning the gloves the fighters use in MMA and boxing. Boxers usually use somewhere between 10-14 ounce gloves while the UFC fighters use 4 ounce gloves. I just wanted to clear one thing up real quick.....

A punch will hurt WAAAAY more if you got hit by a boxing glove than a MMA glove.

Fighters wear gloves to protect THEIR hands....not the opponents face. I would rather fight a guy bare fisted, and let me wear the gloves. 3 punches into the fight, if he landed good and I didn't go out, 1) he'd have broken some bone in his hand or 2) feel like he has broken some bone in his hand and will not swing as hard anymore.

The advantage of boxing gloves in NOT in the padding. The hissing sound you hear during a boxing match when a punch is thrown is the fighters breathing when they throw, not the air deflating out of the glove from the cushion. Every trained fighter is taught to breath when he punched so not to tire as fast. Thus the hiss hiss during punches. But also with the bigger glove, it is easier to block and deflect punches in defense.

Just a little info for the masses. Joe Rogan always seem to mention the "4 ounce baby gloves" during every show but he seem to always fail to mention the smaller the glove, the less powerful the impact. None of this applies to "right on the button" punches. A couch pillow can KO someone if hit "on the button". If you would like to try it out, get both types of gloves and let someone hit you in the forehead kinda light like with each. A small punch with a boxing glove will rattle you medulla ablongata.

that is ridicules.... you would rather fight someone with no gloves? bare knuckle boxing is fucking dangerous!i dont think we will ever see pro boxers fight without gloves... if we did there would never (or in a rare case) be a 12 round decision

 

[Ninja>Shogun]

LAME LAME

so that building in madrid was full of hydrocarbon fuels?

again, switch from safeway brand tinfoil to reynolds wrap. you'll notice a difference immediately I suspect.

PS LAME LAME

Do not try to talk common sense into this guy, we've already seen that he will try and twist facts to try and "prove" his (erroneous) point(s).

 

[Black-Rob]

that is ridicules.... you would rather fight someone with no gloves? bare knuckle boxing is fucking dangerous!i dont think we will ever see pro boxers fight without gloves... if we did there would never (or in a rare case) be a 12 round decision

I ment if they had no gloves....not me. And if their gloves were smaller than mine....like their UFC gloves to my 10 oz boxing gloves. Of course if their were no grappling.....but you get my point.

 

[JoelThomas]

you lose, go make more tinfoil hats

1) Building 7.

For everyone else:

2) Last time I checked, I exhaled quickly when throwing a strike to tighten my diaphragm and abdominal muscles in order to efficiently transfer energy from my hips through my torso and then into my shoulder and arm. Try this - keep your stomach completely relaxed (put your left hand there to make sure, if need be) then throw a right hook. It'll be like throwing a weight attached to a flimsy ass piece of rubber. Whoever said that exhaling is for defense is only coincidently right.

3) You see more one punch knockouts in MMA for a few reasons - Boxing gloves are bigger and offer better defense for the chin (which is where most flash KOs result)... Boxers generally trade punches from stable positions which makes it a lot easier to move with and take a punch, while MMA knockouts usually occur when people are dancing all the fuck over the ring, dropping their hands and/or running clean into the other guy's fists. And lastly, the sad truth is boxers are much much better at defending against punches than MMA fighters. It's a matter of training priority - in mma you have to work ground game, subs, takedowns, clinching, and striking (with kicks, elbows and knees). A boxer can afford to practice slipping and bobbing a whole hell of a lot more than Joe MMA.

4) MMA gloves cause more surface damage (knuckle in the eye, temple or top of the ear, anyone?) and deliver more force because of the smaller surface area. All gloves are not created equal so unless we're lining up every 4/8/10 oz glove in the world and comparing the padding, there's no point in arguing. But keep in mind... when you're hitting a hard object like the skull, padding matters a lot less because no matter the type, it will compact... it's just a matter of how much.

5) Handwraps add SUBSTANTIAL stiffness to the wrist and hardness to the fist in boxing. Last time I checked, only the bare minimum of the hand is allowed to be taped in the UFC, and no knuckles. When you wrap your knuckles, half of that wrap goes inside your fist, giving you something to squeeze, thereby negating the amount that your fist compacts when you punch. Try this - hold one hand out in front of you and punch it while watching your punching hand's wrist. Hit in multiple places, and watch your wrist/fingers bend upon impact. It doesn't matter how hard you're squeezing, chances are unless you land the punch directly on the large knuckles, your wrist will give a little. Do you know how many punches land in that sweet spot on the fist in a fight?

6) When it's all said and done, if you get hit full force on the jaw unprepared by someone with decently heavy hands, 4, 10, or even 16, it doesn't matter. You're probably going out... but I fully encourage everyone here to get hit in the face and head by all types of gloves if you haven't been already. You'll notice the difference. Lighter gloves feel more like a fist, heavier gloves feel more like you got off a nasty roller coaster. Apples and oranges.

So in conclusion, what makes the difference is the surface area of the larger padding. All things being equal, I would much rather get hit with a bare fist than a bare fist holding a 16 oz lead weight.

 

[Silverblur]

They usually spar with 14 oz gloves. Like someone said in the post, they are padded and heavier to promote endurance in the arms. In the bouts, they use 10 oz gloves, which when the hands are taped, makes them hard as rocks. None of you who have not been hit with taped up 10 oz gloves, don't have a clue. For the uneducated dude that said he don't want to watch pillow fights, you are just that, uneducated.

I don't know the real numbers to an above question about how many KO per 100 fights, but remember in boxing, the bigger gloves are better for blocking and deflecting punches. Not so much glove only defense in MMA.

No no, you can't grapple with boxing gloves. But some people on here, including most of the posters of this thread, say MMA gloves "hurt" more than boxing gloves, and that is simply NOT TRUE!!! Feel the glove, MMA is harder, Tape the hand in the glove, boxing is harder. And yes, they are heavier thus slowing down the arm when punching, but the extra stiffness makes up for that 10 times. And it is real simple, if you don't agree, you have not been hit by both. Maybe one, but not both.

Didn't read the whole thread, but I've been hit by both, (only in trainng) and the MMA glove hurt much worse.

Its because the extra padding means that it takes longer for the energy of your punch to transfer from you arm into your opponenet's head. It doesn't matter that the glove compresses and hardens, becaouse by than the punch has lost energy.

 

[koreankid6413]

i have come to this conclusion and i may just be making this crap up but i think its pretty legit after eating cheesecake pudding, chips and salsa, and it being 2:30 in the morning

MMA GLOVES: Hurt more when your hit, because of the small hitting surface and minimum padding but they wont cause lasting damage. Yes they will screw your face up and hurt more when your hit by them but no real long lasting damage would be done honostley with MMA gloves

Boxing Gloves: Dont hurt AS much at the moment of impact and during the fight as MMA gloves but because of the LARGE BLUNT SURFACE it causes brain damage and its very bad for the body and is worse for you in the long run but at the moment of impact and throughout the whole fight getting hit by a boxing glove wont hurt as much as being hit by an MMA glove

so what do you guys think?

 

[Bryan Popejoy]

this thread is awesome.

shouldn't logic dictate that the smaller glove, with less surface area, and less padding, would hurt more?

The reason stand up fight sports spar with larger(16 ounce) gloves is to protect from the cuts and bruising. Same with headgear, it's for the facial injuries.

IMO, you're either taking more brain related damage(bigger gloves), or more facial related damage(smaller gloves). None of it's that good for you.

 

[koreankid6413]

Yes So Bryan Popjoy I Guess That Means My Theory Was Right!!!

 

[Oebla]

I own those gloves, and they are hard as hell. More dumb statements... jesus

I bet they are hard, put the point is that 10oz is just as hard.

YOUR statements are dumb because you never react on my arguments. Everytime you know you're wrong, you say something dumb like: A ferrari is more deadly then a truck.

 

[Prophetic~Poet]

[QUOTE=Keyser S

 

[FIGHTING TALK]

People lets not get too carried away.
Just remember that the threadstarter thinks that most people assume that the hissing sound boxers make is the deflating of the glove and that you can be knocked out by a pillow... so we are clearly dealing with a moron.

Nothing more, nothing less, just a moron.

 

[vu]

^^^I concur...


Whoever said the "hissing sound" was "the glove deflating"?........if your friends actually think that; they're idiots...

 

[Kozma]

4 oz gloves are more likely to cause knockouts because they have less padding

less padding means the force of the punch is delivered faster

with the force delivered faster the power of the punch goes up because power=work/time

 

[damastakilla]

I thought boxing gloves just protected your hands and help you block better. MMA gloves are they way they are, so the guys can grapple better. With boxing your hand speed is slower due to those enormous gloves, they are great to train with because you wont risk hand injuries and your hand speed will grow since they are like weights. MMA gloves wont affect your hand speed much, but do carry the risk of hand injury. I believe that is their difference.

 

[Sax MMA]

some of the answers on here are rediculous