MMA fighters wearing a gi

[ijustwannasurf]

I see your chain of logic, and it's not too faulty from a theoretical standpoint. I'm basing my argument off my own experience, which is really just my opinion. If I hadn't recently started to train with small gloves on a couple times a week, I wouldn't have put a dog in this fight.

I like to pass with the guillotine, and bait the Darce as they turn into me from side control. In the gi, friction means I have to have my shoulder angle and arm position just right, or a good guy will feel an opening and escape. I've missed a thousand times because I didn't have all the bases covered. The gi exposed that. Now, when I train with no gi and gloves on and the guy is even more eager to get off his back, I can hit either choke much easier because my body position is on point.
Could I have just trained no-gi and been as proficient? Maybe. I don't have the evidence for that. I do have data that supports my chokes improved tremendously from having to apply them through a bundle of chin, sleeves, and lapels.
There's obviously a reason I don't train MMA with a gi, as much as I love Enson Inoue. I want to sport-specific for this angle of the game. Still, it is just as obvious to me that the gi is a very useful training tool, and not something I'd walk away from if I all of a sudden had a Bellator contract.

 

[cms9690]

See this is the issue I cannot get over to appreciate the gi for no-gi

lets take your example...I just cannot believe 2 hours of training the darce in the gi is superior to 2 hours of training the darce in no gi for mma

I don't see how the gi magically made you better...you say friction, but how can learning a skill when there is friction help when you have to perform that same skill in a situation where there is less friction...this is the whole concept of specificity, you practice in exactly the same conditions of your sport...so I would even go as far to say no gi is not enough, you need no rash guard and gloves equipped during training

I suppose that is were we fundamentally disagree

I understand what you mean, Snakey.

It translates well to pretty much any style v style of training.

Should you spend time powerlifting to become stronger / more durable or just spend more time doing what you would be doing in the fight such as hitting mitts, sparring, etc?

They're both very important aspects of training.

Different strokes, but all options are valid.

 

[November]

No gi can make u very technical as well, not many realize this. Yes, it is easier to escape submissions and u can rely on athleticism to do so, but it is also much harder to hold a triangle or armbar on a very slippery opponent and will make ur offense more technical

 

[cms9690]

Speaking of MMA fighters in the gi, everyone remember this abomination?

 

[cms9690]

Chael Sonnen rocking his new purple belt:

 

[snakeybizz]

according to wikipedia, jonny hendricks only has a blue belt in BJJ I found that quite surprising...dunno if its true

 

[Gored Matador]

No one has addressed this yet in the defense of no-gi.

coz honestly, the people taking the nogi argument in this thread are fake grapplers and don't train and don't know shit.

i mean, look at snakeybizz, he post his 1st judo class thread. of course he makes a 2nd judo class thread where some crazy/unlikely shit happens. classic f12 troll.

 

[Judo Thai Boxer]

coz honestly, the people taking the nogi argument in this thread are fake grapplers and don't train and don't know shit.

i mean, look at snakeybizz, he post his 1st judo class thread. of course he makes a 2nd judo class thread where some crazy/unlikely shit happens. classic f12 troll.

He said he had 2 years of no gi experience too.

I don't think he's a troll, he's just biased towards no gi. But then again, I'm biased towards gi and I'm pro gi in all of this.

 

[Alex88]

This dude just became interim champ yesterday

/End thread.

 

[Scooter Brown]

No one has addressed this yet in the defense of no-gi.

It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the gi. It seems to be about whether or not you should learn how to escape when you're too tired to explode.

Yes, you should.