I'm not particularly pro abortion just to clarify. I think people should have the right to get one but they should be avoided whenever possible. It's a horrible thing to have to do, but people do end up in situations where they don't see any other choice. It's not moving goalposts at all to follow a thought to its logical conclusion. We KNOW that people in no condition to have kids will still have sex. That's just an absolute fact. We also know that the government and citizens are generally uninterested in helping those people in any way. We also know that these people have a lot of poor outcomes.
I don't even have to speak only using data and hypotheticals here. I grew up extremely poor. My mother was going to abort me. They showed her a sad wittle video, so she changed her mind. She was in no way prepared to raise me. I grew up around a lot of other low income people with children. It's a very poor environment and many of us had very poor outcomes. If we're not going to forcibly sterilize poor people, and we're not, and we're going to force them to raise children, it's logical to say as a society we should also help these people in some way. And we don't. We just sit back and watch low income people fail while saying they should make better decisions when statistically we know that they will not.
So if you're going to force people to have kids anyway, at least acknowledge the MANY burdens they and there children will place on everyone else in society.
I don't mean to diminish any of those social problems, which I agree exist. But to have an honest debate about these other social factors, there must other context For instance, 80 percent of abortion facilities are located in minority neighborhoods. About 13 percent of American women are black, but they receive over 35 percent of the abortions. (this does not include Hispanics)
https://blackdignity.org/?gclid=Cjw...81hKh8_PTn48IHq1JX5u6OWSAVkWwLAhoCXrwQAvD_BwE
For further context, The abortion rate among Hispanic women, for example, although not as high as the rate among black women, is double the rate among whites.
https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2008/08/abortion-and-women-color-bigger-picture
Are these minority, generally urban areas not democrat run with the highest wealth gaps in the country? The same democrats who are the pro-abortionists? Same democrats that are pro open borders, which makes it harder to get jobs, eats up the resources for various social nets? Why do their policies not address these concerns prior to requiring an abortion? Why are these people in power for decades with no resolution to these major, persistent social problems? Same democrats that want to teach sex ed in kindergarten and hypersexualize our kids? Generally areas known for the most corruption and voter fraud?
It is almost as if limousine liberals use this as a wedge issue (not the far right) to deflect from their failed policies. Moreover, they need abortions to help their policies from looking even worse if they had a bunch of minority babies running around.
Similarly, look at their criminal justice policies that are in the name of minority rights (just like women's rights with abortion), that lead to violent criminals on the street, and lead to how many murders in these same urban areas?
How do we abort people that escaped the systemic genocide of a population through abortions, who were actually born? We release the violent criminals and let them kill each in the streets, if not the womb.
Morals/faith, order, justice, hard work and dedication. That is exactly what the hard working middle class in these same areas want.
Also as a side note, it is also the far right that is more likely to support adoption, outside of gay people who want to traumatize a child.
