Military "disability" - they are freely handing these out

[Samjj]

Fucking shame the mental health funding for veterans doesn’t get that same free hand.

 

[BassAckwards]

And I think that is why there is such a huge prevalence now as the other guy mentioned of people trying to get the most on their records.

i've hurt myself so many times and rarely did i get them documented.... now i'm paying for it. looking back, i should have sucked up my pride and went to medical. back when i was in, unless you were retiring, nobody told anyone anything about the VA and to get everything documented. we had a 3 day civ transition class back then, which was a complete waste of time and there was nothing about the VA.

 

[Stoic1]

What the fuck are you talking about? Lol. The thread is about how the military gives handouts for life for fake injuries. Then you came in defending it by telling us how great the military is pretending that this is what makes the military great.

We had a broken heart that came in to say the military was worthless. I pointed out that our current situation as dominant world power is a direct result of the military's hegemony. Full stop.

One might call it a necessary evil.

And the entire premise of the thread is to somehow compare "fake injuries" to some kind of welfare/socialism while completely discounting the sheer volume of real injuries after 20 years of sustained combat operations. Sure - there is plenty of VA leaching. Just like there is a plenty of workmans comp leaching, etc.

 

[vcmmafan]

As you get older those minor injuries you had can affect you greatly. You gonna wait until you’re 50 to claim those? There’s a reason they do that

I'm referring to Minor injuries that healed completely. There's a difference between that and the stuff that never truly heals 100% and adds up over time.

 

[Gutter Chris]

What the fuck are you talking about?

Im talkin bout how much of our money the govt wastes givin out free shit to the military and the assholes who scream about socialism and free stuff never ever really object to it

 

[G-19]

Your buddy is very wrong on what it takes to qualify for disability through the VA. There's TONS of veterans out there still fighting for disability. There is no "50% for boot camp" or "20% deployment / PTSD." Your buddy is just flat out wrong or he's trying to bullshit you for a specific reason.

I did 4 tours of duty...first was a MEU "float" which left 9 days after 9/11 happened. We ended up in Pakistan and Afghanistan (I stayed in Pakistan) as part of Operation Enduring Freedom. My next 3 deployments were to Iraq...in 2003 when we ousted that piece of shit Saddam. My next was 2004 when we pushed into Fallujah, and another tour in Fallujah in 2006. I was never injured in combat but did see some pretty heavy stuff... during my 2004 deployment my tank alone shot over 300 main gun rounds...actually so many that it was noteworthy on my personal award citation. LMAO
We got blown up by an anti-tank mine in the 2004 deployment but no injuries, and I hit 3 IED's in the 2006 deployment and no injuries.

In 2008 I fucked up my shoulder while playing with my dog...we were playing tug of war (German Shepherd) and he yanked me tripped me and I fell right into a tree stump. It separated the A/C joint requiring reconstructive surgery...my Medical Officer misdianosed the issue and bascially just called me a pussy for 7 months...until my clavicle traveled over 2" and was sticking up and and making a huge bulge in my skin. Then I finally got the treatment I needed after I suffered through 7 months of severe pain and still had to do my normal day to day stuff. I ended up with 60% disability which includes the fucked up shoulder, PTSD, hearing loss, and they made us take Mefloquine during the "float" as an anti-malaria drug. Come to find out that it has some brutal side effects which can permanently alter thoughts and "perceptions of reality."

From the CDC on Mefloquine side effects :
Mefloquine can cause dizziness, difficulty sleeping, anxiety, vivid dreams, and visual disturbances. In rare instances mefloquine can cause seizures, depression, and psychosis

The PTSD was only in my record because I had a bad drinking problem which was medically diagnosed as PTSD. I had to go to a psychologist, do a 2 week in patient alcohol "rehab" course, and that's the only reason it's even on my record book. They don't just put PTSD in your book because you deployed...doesn't happen.

So I ended up at 60% after all that horseshit...9 years of beating up my body and constantly deploying or being in a pre-deployment tempo where we were busy as fuck. I know tons of guys who did the same tours as me but ended up getting out with 0% disability and had a hard time even getting their hearing loss "service connected." I'm writing all of this just to let you know that it's a complicated and drawn out process...nobody is getting shit just because they made it through Air Force boot camp. Did those fuckers get hurt while riding their bicycle? LMAO

Edit : @Ophydian ...NOBODY is coming out of boot camp with an automatic 50% disability. And what the fuck do you mean "they all go for 70%?" You are so far off that it's not even funny.

I love when civilians who have never had to deal with the VA make shit up and people just agree because they don’t know any better. I haven’t jumped on any of the disability bandwagons but at the first sign of trouble you better believe I’m making a claim which will take 10 years to be processed.

I had surgery at Evans Army Community Hospital on Fort Carson back in 2012 and then had to have 2 scopes performed after for what they believed might be internal bleeding in which I received 0% for but graduating boot gives you an automatic 50%. Bitch please!

 

[F1980]

I feel sorry for the people who are working jobs that are much more dangerous than being in the military that don't get these pensions for bullshit, made-up injuries.

 

[Nate banged my mom]

I think you vastly underestimate the military-industrial complex!

On the topic at hand. When I retired from the Navy, they recommend you make an appointment and talk to a DAV (Disabled American Veterans) representative. The rep went through my medical record and recommended I cite minor hearing loss (well, duh, I'm 20 years older now), and some minor injuries I got during PT, minor swelling on my knee once and a twisted ankle another time. I just couldn't do it. I just thought of my Dad's purple heart for grenade shrapnel or any IED victim and passed on that.

Thank you for your service

 

[ElKarlo]

Yes, I think it's a huge deal that no one will talk about because its veterans. My buddy, retired airforce has a 70% disability, perfectly fine, goes to the gym every day etc etc. Get a nice fat check every month and DV plates. I talked to him about it and he basically told me that coming out of basic is an automatic 50% disability. If you deployed to the ME and came anywhere near conflict you can add on another 20% easy from PTSD or breathing issues that are non-existent. He was SF (security forces) so he never even saw combat just had a few mortars hit close to the base.

That's sad. My dad was hit by a grenade and was in a parachuting accident. Guy can barely hear and he only recently got a disability rating. After 50 years.

 

[Ophydian]

I love when civilians who have never had to deal with the VA make shit up and people just agree because they don’t know any better. I haven’t jumped on any of the disability bandwagons but at the first sign of trouble you better believe I’m making a claim which will take 10 years to be processed.

I had surgery at Evans Army Community Hospital on Fort Carson back in 2012 and then had to have 2 scopes performed after for what they believed might be internal bleeding in which I received 0% for but graduating boot gives you an automatic 50%. Bitch please!

My friend got out in 2017 so shit has changed since your ass was in Desert Storm. What I am saying is the truth. Was there some hyperbole when he mentioned basic gets you 50%? Probably. This guy left the airforce with 70% disability. Never saw a minute of combat. Guarded fucking airplanes in the Caribean for the CIA for his 2nd deployment. He was told when cycling out to get as much as fucking possible, end of story.

 

[Ophydian]

That's sad. My dad was hit by a grenade and was in a parachuting accident. Guy can barely hear and he only recently got a disability rating. After 50 years.

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope the remainder of his time on this planet is enjoyable. He has his life and his family so....

 

[G-19]

My friend got out in 2017 so shit has changed since your ass was in Desert Storm. What I am saying is the truth. Was there some hyperbole when he mentioned basic gets you 50%? Probably. This guy left the airforce with 70% disability. Never saw a minute of combat. Guarded fucking airplanes in the Caribean for the CIA for his 2nd deployment. He was told when cycling out to get as much as fucking possible, end of story.

He’s full of shit. If 33 years of age qualifies you for desert storm I might need to update my ribbon rack. So you think in 10 years the entire military has changed and the veterans who went through more would somehow not go file claims for this 50% automatic pay? Let me explain to you how it works since you have no clue. I can file for a VA claim anytime I want, if I want to receive back pay I need to provide documentation that clearly demonstrates I received that injury while on active orders. If I don’t provide documentation I can start receiving payments when the claim is processed. It’s not probably hyperbole... it’s completely retarded.

 

[Ophydian]

He’s full of shit. If 33 years of age qualifies you for desert storm I might need to update my ribbon rack. So you think in 10 years the entire military has changed and the veterans who went through more would somehow not go file claims for this 50% automatic pay? Let me explain to you how it works since you have no clue. I can file for a VA claim anytime I want, if I want to receive back pay I need to provide documentation that clearly demonstrates I received that injury while on active orders. If I don’t provide documentation I can start receiving payments when the claim is processed. It’s not probably hyperbole... it’s completely retarded.

I’m not sure you understand what I’m saying. I know for a fact he’s getting 70%. His fucking X wife, who I also know well, tried to snatch part of his $1500 a month for child support. He’s got DV plates. He’s perfectly fine minus being somewhat a dummy.

 

[unclegrick]

It’s sad, because I do appreciate the risks these soldiers are taking, but on the other hand, due to many who seem to be taking advantage of the system, as a civilian who has never served, my perception of veterans collecting disability has changed from appreciation to resentment. I know, shame on me, right? But the bad apples are spoiling it for the true heroes.

Reading this article about the concussions from the Iranian missle strikes on our Iraqi base, I wish I had more pity for the “victims”. Perhaps the injuries are sincere. But judging by recent reputation, I am doubtful.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1125276

If someone asked you if you want free money for the rest of your life, and all you have to do is say you get bad headaches, and everyone else is doing it, I’m sure that’s a tough proposition to resist. It’s a systematic problem. The system should not allow for this. How did it get so bad?

 

[Rational Poster]

We had a broken heart that came in to say the military was worthless. I pointed out that our current situation as dominant world power is a direct result of the military's hegemony. Full stop.

One might call it a necessary evil.

And the entire premise of the thread is to somehow compare "fake injuries" to some kind of welfare/socialism while completely discounting the sheer volume of real injuries after 20 years of sustained combat operations. Sure - there is plenty of VA leaching. Just like there is a plenty of workmans comp leaching, etc.

The military is a socialist enterprise by itself without getting into the VA abuses.

 

[G-19]

I’m not sure you understand what I’m saying. I know for a fact he’s getting 70%. His fucking X wife, who I also know well, tried to snatch part of his $1500 a month for child support. He’s got DV plates. He’s perfectly fine minus being somewhat a dummy.

Sounds like an ex security forces spouse alright. 70% is a lot, maybe he was raped at Lackland and is too ashamed to tell you.

 

[ElKarlo]

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope the remainder of his time on this planet is enjoyable. He has his life and his family so....

Appreciate it.

 

[hillelslovak87]

My brother shredded his shoulder in a firefight in Ramadi. It took him from 2006 to 2010 to get treatment from the military. By 2012 he had started getting disability. He was still working as an electrician, using the shoulder every day, hurting.

If anyone should get a check every month, it's these fuckers. Would you rather those military funds go to Raytheon, BlackW- I mean Academi, and PMC groups?

 

[Mike Hagger]

As guy with deployments spanning almost 20 years, with everyone being “outside the wire.” I believe some people absolutely take advantage of disability offered by the VA.

It does bother me.

The VA is fucked up, and how benefits are awarded isn’t perfect, I guess I support seeing too much over too little. Just pisses me off to see a disabled plate when the occupant is clearly able bodied while down the road some dude is missing his legs.

 

[Ophydian]

As guy with deployments spanning almost 20 years, with everyone being “outside the wire.” I believe some people absolutely take advantage of disability offered by the VA.

It does bother me.

The VA is fucked up, and how benefits are awarded isn’t perfect, I guess I support seeing too much over too little. Just pisses me off to see a disabled plate when the occupant is clearly able bodied while down the road some dude is missing his legs.

Thank you for your service and I 100% agree with you.