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Mushrooms have helped me immensely in many aspects. The value of those experiences cannot be measured. Therapists can only dream about having the kind of impact on their patients like psychedelics can have. But even after several incredibly healing and insightful experiences, I always felt a struggle.

But then I took some large doses and once I had an intense trip that basically cured my depression for good.

Now I don't feel the need to take mushrooms again.

I think big pharma has so much to lose by millions of people who have your story. They lose on sales of valium, Ritalin, oxycodone, etc. It's time we put pharma out of business, they are one of the biggest criminals. Hats off to you sir for finding a cure the natural way.
 
Some places are coming around. Colorado just made mushrooms legal, apparently. Oregon did it a few years ago.

I am happy to hear stories of how it helped people face depression, PTSD, etc. I want to take some, but I don't have anything. There is nothing to cure. How can it benefit me? I'm jealous I have nothing to cure.
 
I am happy to hear stories of how it helped people face depression, PTSD, etc. I want to take some, but I don't have anything. There is nothing to cure. How can it benefit me? I'm jealous I have nothing to cure.
you will be surprised at how impoverished your state of consciousness is once you compare it to psychedelics and your state of mind after doing it. the contrast can be astounding.
 
you will be surprised at how impoverished your state of consciousness is once you compare it to psychedelics and your state of mind after doing it. the contrast can be astounding.

Are there any long term negative effects?
 
Are there any long term negative effects?
im no expert but as long as you dont have a bad trip or something i think it is really very safe. ive done a ton of them but its way in my past but it was overwhelmingly positive.

the other thing you could do is start with a very small amount and do more each time to kind of acclimatize yourself to it. @dirtypablo and ask him specifically as he is very well versed in it.
 
im no expert but as long as you dont have a bad trip or something i think it is really very safe. ive done a ton of them but its way in my past but it was overwhelmingly positive.

the other thing you could do is start with a very small amount and do more each time to kind of acclimatize yourself to it. @dirtypablo and ask him specifically as he is very well versed in it.

@dirtypablo any long term side effects for taking magic shrooms? Thanks for your input man.
 
Are there any long term negative effects?
Not generally for time to time use. Don't eat 97 grams daily for five years straight, you're never coming back from that vacation. 3 grams or less every now and again can be a good experience. I'd start with one so you have an understanding of what it is you're dealing with.

I can't speak for how it may benefit you, the experience is yours and yours alone. Sharing it with a like minded person can enhance the experience. I always preferred being alone, but that's in my nature, anyway. One thing is certain, most people are amazed by the effects and the perspective it can give. The experience is spiritual for most.
 
have you read much about this with autism or is it just something you came up with? im quite interested for a friend.

I read a lot of studies and spoke to other parents who had tried it before I made the decision to move forward. Hallucinogens weren't something that were used in my household at all before this, but I also didn't view them in a negative way either.
 
I read a lot of studies and spoke to other parents who had tried it before I made the decision to move forward. Hallucinogens weren't something that were used in my household at all before this, but I also didn't view them in a negative way either.
ill probably do some research on this but do you happen to have any links that were meaningful? ive got a friend with a low functioning autistic child is why im asking.
 
ill probably do some research on this but do you happen to have any links that were meaningful? ive got a friend with a low functioning autistic child is why im asking.
I've often wondered what the experience would be like for someone who has sensory processing difficulties. I imagine that happens frequently, but until your post I never thought to seek out an account.
 
Anybody who thinks it’s okay to lock people in a cage for picking something that grows out of wood chips and cow manure when it rains, should be hung.

It's ridiculous how society is. In some places they'd deem you more dangerous if you picked a mushroom than if you raped someone. Maybe because rape is somewhat of a "predictable" crime that happens often, but it doesn't challenge the society or pillars of authority. These drugs threaten to rip off the veil perhaps.

I think big pharma has so much to lose by millions of people who have your story. They lose on sales of valium, Ritalin, oxycodone, etc. It's time we put pharma out of business, they are one of the biggest criminals. Hats off to you sir for finding a cure the natural way.

I'm not sure if I found a cure per say, although it does sound like that's the narrative I'm purporting. As much as I expound the benefits of mushrooms, I don't think they're as magical as some people think they are. Definitely an extremely helpful tool in the right context. The vast majority of people I've met who have done them benefited.

The "cure" I found was bitter sweet, but I was able to make more sense of my issues.

I've often wondered what the experience would be like for someone who has sensory processing difficulties. I imagine that happens frequently, but until your post I never thought to seek out an account.

I feel their senses would be heightened for sure. During one of my last trips my toe was hurting, which I jammed into a door frame a week ago. I forgot I had hurt it until I took the mushrooms. A lot of little nagging pains I learned to ignore start to hurt again on mushrooms. It's not a pleasant experience for sure. I also feel a sharp pain on one particular side of my stomach every time I take mushrooms. It makes me wonder if I should get it checked.

I am happy to hear stories of how it helped people face depression, PTSD, etc. I want to take some, but I don't have anything. There is nothing to cure. How can it benefit me? I'm jealous I have nothing to cure.

A lot of people think they have nothing to cure until they realize they do. Before I didn't know depression was a thing and thought having suicidal thoughts was just a normal thing until I started going to therapy to make sense of my misery. I know a quite a few people who engage in extremely toxic behavior and very obviously have issues they need to work through, but they themselves are oblivious to it. Everyone can benefit from some sort of mental help no matter how well they seem. And even if you are completely happy and content in life, mushrooms can still give you an experience. It will show you a different realm of reality that is difficult to access sober, or at the very least it will be a fun experience.

Here's an anecdote I heard from a guy I know. He has a friend who comes from a wealthy family and the guy basically spent his entire 20s partying, drinking a lot, focused on making a ton of money (and flaunting it) and trying to bang as many chicks as possible. He was a giant douchebag and not very nice to people. This guy apparently took mushrooms once and had a trip where everyone in his life was chastising him for being a shitty person, afterwards he did a 180 in his lifestyle and now works with charities and is super nice to people. A guy like him probably never even thought he had a problem until he realized he did.

Are there any long term negative effects?

I'm talking specifically about psilocybin, and as far as I know, there is no known evidence it causes any negative physiological health effects. It's not toxic and is not addictive.

It can definitely rewire your brain, or rather, unwire your brain to an extent. Whether that is a negative or positive depends on what you deem negative or positive.

It can trigger schizophrenia, but schizophrenia is something you are already wired for if you have it, and it can be triggered at some point in your life anyway. It is said not to take psychedelics if you have family history of schizophrenia.

You hear stories of people permanently losing their minds and not being the same afterwards because they took too many or too often. It may be schizophrenia, or it may be that what one considers "losing one's mind" might actually simply be a difference in perspective. I certainly seem like I've lost my mind to some people I've known in the past. It should also be noted that because psychedelics "unwire" your brain and leave you open to accepting new ideas, it can be potentially used as a brainwashing tool. What you take in before during and after the trip also affect you. Which is why it is important to still "do the work" of bettering yourself if you're taking them for depression. If you're talking acid and then reading some incel forum for days after, you might become entrenched in incel ideas who knows.

If people take too many psychedelics over a period of time and "go crazy," it may be that they're being influenced a certain way.

I also want to note that from my experience, psilocybin also has a message of it's own. I was the opposite of a spiritual person before the first time I took mushrooms and I wasn't in a spiritual environment when I took them, but my experience was definitely spiritually.

Not generally for time to time use. Don't eat 97 grams daily for five years straight, you're never coming back from that vacation. 3 grams or less every now and again can be a good experience. I'd start with one so you have an understanding of what it is you're dealing with.

I can't speak for how it may benefit you, the experience is yours and yours alone. Sharing it with a like minded person can enhance the experience. I always preferred being alone, but that's in my nature, anyway. One thing is certain, most people are amazed by the effects and the perspective it can give. The experience is spiritual for most.

That doesn't corroborate with what I've read. Humans develop a tolerance for psilocybin very quickly. Taking them for multiple days consecutively would be pointless because you wouldn't feel anything. It's also why it's incredibly non-addictive.
 
i dont think it is accurate that all religions are the same. there seems to be few other widely believed things that are less true than this statement.

if you look at the view of enlightenment between buddhism christianity hinduism and Judaism it is pretty clear that they are not the same and that they reject one anothers EXPERIENCE... not the words about the experience... but the experience itself.

there are some profound similarities but they have been overstated quite irresponsibly. buddhism and judaism represent the most divergent and wildly opposed states of enlightenment.

buddhism says that if there is any sense of self separate from the other you are not enlightened. even jesus experience does not quality in the buddhist view. buddhism also states that there is no self and there may be no god.

judaism says if you lose that sense of separation between god and self even for a moment you have entered heresy. there is a god, there is a self, and they are NOT the same thing nor even remotely equivalent. this is a description of the EXPERIENCE of enlightenment for jewish mystics and it is not just a language difference.

not only are the ENDS not the same but the MEANS are also very different. i dont teach meditation but i am qualified to do so in the christian tradition and i can tell you that most of what buddhism and hinduism teaches about meditation is completely incompatible theologically and practically with the christian traditions approach and theology.

it seems like the only people who claim all religion is the same and that everyone who is religious is wrong about this fact are those who have have very little knowledge of the various religions, produce no saints and provide no reliable repeatable means of producing enlightenment in others, and who themselves rarely have a deep penetration into even one tradition. these people seem to me to be the leaste qualified human beings on the planet to make these kinds of evaluations.

the fact is there are very important similarities that should make us feel a kinship towards one another but also many very important distinctions that ought themselves to be celebrated in the spirit of appreciating the beauty of diversity of spiritual experience and some would argue the innate subjective nature of it even though it seems non subjective when it is experienced.
You sound like an expert on enlightenment.

Obviously, my statement that all religions state the same is a generalization and an oversimplification, however, I feel like your POV is "more letter than the spirit".

Whatever, mang.
Piece & laugh!
 
I wouldn’t be scared.

Microdosing generally implies a level that isn’t going to hinder your day to day, or provide you with discomfort. I’ve gone stretches microdosing psilosybin and it’s helped with depression as well as given me a sort of focus akin to caffeine or pre workout. Not to mention it just generally puts me in a more patient, agreeable mood.
 
That doesn't corroborate with what I've read. Humans develop a tolerance for psilocybin very quickly. Taking them for multiple days consecutively would be pointless because you wouldn't feel anything. It's also why it's incredibly non-addictive.
I apoligize, I thought it was apparent that my comment was hyperbole. Of course you build a tolerance quickly, but you'll still feel them if you take them for days, I know that from experience. Generally people with a tolerance to any drug don't continue taking the same dose over and over, they take more and more. Physical dependence is a non-issue for basically all psychedelics, but mental dependence is still a true possibility. Taking any psychedelic drug for a prolonged period of time changes your mental state drastically. It isn't really a good thing. People aren't meant to be in a waking dream world 24/7.
 
I wouldn’t be scared.

Microdosing generally implies a level that isn’t going to hinder your day to day, or provide you with discomfort. I’ve gone stretches microdosing psilosybin and it’s helped with depression as well as given me a sort of focus akin to caffeine or pre workout. Not to mention it just generally puts me in a more patient, agreeable mood.
I always thought microdosing was akin to a really stiff cup of coffee, was surprised by your comment.
 
You sound like an expert on enlightenment.

Obviously, my statement that all religions state the same is a generalization and an oversimplification, however, I feel like your POV is "more letter than the spirit".

Whatever, mang.
Piece & laugh!

i have a great deal of experience with mysticism and comparative mysticism both theoretical and experiential. i meditate over 5 hours a day and have for more than 20 years.

i am not speaking from the letter but from spirit and from experience, that is why i repeatedly said it is not the words around mystical experience but the EXPERIENCE itself that is different. it is the experience of mysticism and NOT the language around it that is diverse and distinctive and incompatible with one another. the notion that all religion is the same at the deep level is absolutely false and nobody thinks that except those who only focus on the words and not the spirit and then decide that the words actually all mean the same thing if you really understand them. but you can only make this mistake if you are NOT focusing on the precise distinctions of the experience of peak experience or enlightenment from the various traditions.

i use jewish and buddhist examples as they are the most divergent from one another and either experience according to the other is NOT enlightenment or is even considered heresy and great error respectively. but i know a lot more about comparative mysticism between Christianity and Hinduism and can speak much more to those distinctions and the profound similarities between them too.

if you focus on the mystical experience of religion itself the sometimes quite vast differences remain and they remain all the way to the deepest levels attainable.

i always like to point this out because as a young man listening to joseph campbell i was led to believe they were all the same at the deep level but that turns out to be a false belief and i am glad to have learned that so i could have a deeper appreciation of the various traditions on the planet and what they offer. i just assume most people would want to have a more accurate understanding of mysticism on this level.
 
Are there any long term negative effects?

there could be depending on the severity of the trip or the realization that u get from it.


U might have nothing but positive trips but it is building up to ur lid exploding. Depending how often u do it.

a lot of people have the simulation realization which can be incredibly profound and disturbing.

ego death/loss is like a simulated death trip experience which can be disturbing.

mushrooms can recalibrate ur compass or fuck it up to the point where all established norms developed in u over ur life time no longer make sense or apply.

In a psychedelic state one may experience a repeating loop where u cant prove or disprove an idea and u go back and forth unable to break free of it.

there are gnostic themes of the demiurge that can enter into ur mind as well.

video games like red dead or no mans sky on the stuff is amazing. Or geometry wars. Or awesome visual movies.

the positives outweigh the negatives and even the negative experiences are still profound.
 
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I apoligize, I thought it was apparent that my comment was hyperbole. Of course you build a tolerance quickly, but you'll still feel them if you take them for days, I know that from experience. Generally people with a tolerance to any drug don't continue taking the same dose over and over, they take more and more. Physical dependence is a non-issue for basically all psychedelics, but mental dependence is still a true possibility. Taking any psychedelic drug for a prolonged period of time changes your mental state drastically. It isn't really a good thing. People aren't meant to be in a waking dream world 24/7.

it’s almost like a built in control. U really cant take large doses every day. Plus its not the easiest to procure so u gotta be frugal
 
I think big pharma has so much to lose by millions of people who have your story. They lose on sales of valium, Ritalin, oxycodone, etc. It's time we put pharma out of business, they are one of the biggest criminals. Hats off to you sir for finding a cure the natural way.

big pharma is working to monetize the psychadellic experience
 
I am happy to hear stories of how it helped people face depression, PTSD, etc. I want to take some, but I don't have anything. There is nothing to cure. How can it benefit me? I'm jealous I have nothing to cure.

take it and watch a movie, go for a hike somewhere safe, play video games, draw, read comics, look at photography. All of those and more will stimulate ur mind like it hasnt been stimulated since u were a child probably.

I've often wondered what the experience would be like for someone who has sensory processing difficulties. I imagine that happens frequently, but until your post I never thought to seek out an account.

what kind of sensory processing difficulties do u have?
 

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