Social Microdosing?

[AristotleAmadopolis]

Yeah. I feel a healthy routine of meditation, dealing with your own shit/trama, etc is healthy in general and because of that stuff really I'd never be worried what would happen going into it even if I just ate my face off, at this point.

i think the one issue is that when u experience the simulated death trip it’s not so easy to convince urself out of the idea that u died. And then u r conscious of being dead which means u r inflicting immense pain on ur family which then creates a further reverberation of that existential dread anxiety

 

[TheMaster]

I have played games,and watched movies,or if i have a friend over we'll listen to music in red light. Its always a great fuckin time.

Do a higher dose at least one time, and do them properly.
Enjoy the environment but as you come to peak it should be eyes closed and going inward, you will get a lot more out of it.
There is always work to do on yourself even if you think you don't 'need' them, and it will show you this.

 

[TheMaster]

i am not speaking from the letter but from spirit and from experience, that is why i repeatedly said it is not the words around mystical experience but the EXPERIENCE itself that is different. it is the experience of mysticism and NOT the language around it that is diverse and distinctive and incompatible with one another.

This is simply an assumption that you have no way of proving. You don't know what others peak mystical experiences are therefore you have no way to say for sure that the experiences are qualitatively different at that level. All we have to go on is the language and terms which they couche the experience in and which may be influenced by the specific interpretive lens they view it.

the notion that all religion is the same at the deep level is absolutely false and nobody thinks that except those who only focus on the words and not the spirit and then decide that the words actually all mean the same thing if you really understand them. but you can only make this mistake if you are NOT focusing on the precise distinctions of the experience of peak experience or enlightenment from the various traditions.

Yes they are not the same but in terms of psychedelic peak experiences there are similarities in various accounts which leads one to think that they are touching the heart of something which may have been what various religions interpreted in various ways.

An example is Buddhism and Advaita Vedanta, by many accounts the peak experience is the same (and maybe also the same as some psychedelic peak experience) but one views it as selflessness the other views it as coming to the supreme self. It's really doctrine and language that seems to distinguish, and a choice with how to make sense of the experience at the peak.

 

[terrapin]

@TheMaster

luckily we now have a wealth of research where inter-religous dialogue is had and we can easily vet one another experience in a spirit of good will and good faith. this always leads to the conclusion that the experience themselves are different in nature. not only that but the open minded are often willing to be initiated into the other traditions experience and they themselves report that it is different from the home tradition. an account attesting to the differences in each tradition had by a single persons certainly cannot be reduced to a language difference can it?

i myself have had peak experience in saccitanada from hinduism and the trinity in Christianity. they are not the same and this is attested to by many saints from inter-religious dialogue.

it is rather the notion that all mystical experience is the same that must be proven since there are NO indicators that this is the case outside of people just claiming it and since the language is SO VERY different from the various traditions and since we have inter-eligous dialogue attesting to that fact to pull from..

bede griffiths wrote a whole lot about that and there is plenty of other literature surrounding this fact of the mystical life. its really just people that take drugs that arrogantly think they know better than everyone else or else scholars like joseph campbel who had no peak exigence to draw from and just saw similarities in language that form those conclusions. i also think there is a genuine goodwill behind the fallacy in that we are all trying to bring religion together so we can stop fighting.

bede griffiths and his group along with the hinduh masters he worked with all attested to the difference between the two and even words like deeper and further were used to describe the distinctions.

but we also know this from an internal perspective in that the exact peak experience a person is aiming for needs to be corralled and guided by tradition to come to it because there are that many dwelling places to find and participate in.


i have never experienced "cleaving" from the jewish tradition but i can easily recognize the place where it happens on the accent and why it is different from what happens to me. its right where it starts to all be blinding white infinite light and you begin to merge with it and forget that you are an individual at all. if you allow it to happen you forget your individual self and forget that you are even a person or that there is a world or a universe an you lose all subject/object awareness altogether. but the jewish mystics must be able to enter into that infinite light and participate in it fully without ever losing the slightest bit of awareness of the individual self or from the PERSONAL dimension of that white light (which is different from what the hinduhs speak of). "cleaving" is the ability to stay perfectly focused on God as a God who is personal without ever losing awareness of the self as a separate being with a concrete history. If you do lose awareness of the self its like passing out and falling away from the truth.

calling it "light" is just a description though as it is infinite everything infinitely radiant etc, infinite power etc.

 

[Kaiki]

An 8th is the most ive done,but that really is all I need. I never hallucinated on it,it just makes me percieve things more richly,and gives me a sense of euphoria that is beautiful.

Watching movies on shrooms is fantastic. I watched Inglorious Basterds on shrooms and it was 1000 times better

If you ever get tiny shrooms that are blue watch out...powerful booty stuff

 

[jkthenatural]

Microdosing on cocaine is the best.

I would say heroic dosing is better