Social Microdosing?

I thought those books were basically teaching the dark side of spirituality more than anything I think a better book would be the way of the shaman by Michael Harner.

In one of castanata's books a woman attacks his disciple and steals his life force from him and the teacher says that if she was strong enough to take it he deserved to have it taken. That's about as close to evil spirituality as you can get.
No you are correct, Don Juan was a Brujo, but there are lots of good quotes and such that are interesting to ponder. Most people say the dude made it all up and he very well could have. None the less interesting reads if you are into that type of readings.

This is one of my favorites from that book series.

"All paths are the same: they lead nowhere. ...Does this path have heart? If it does, then the path is good; if it doesn't, it is of no use. Both paths lead nowhere; but one has a heart, the other doesn't. One makes for a joyful journey; as long as you follow it, you are one with it. The other will make you curse your life. One makes you strong; the other weakens you.": - Don Juan Matus in The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge by Carlos Castenada.
 
No you are correct, Don Juan was a Brujo, but there are lots of good quotes and such that are interesting to ponder. Most people say the dude made it all up and he very well could have. None the less interesting reads if you are into that type of readings.

This is one of my favorites from that book series.

"All paths are the same: they lead nowhere. ...Does this path have heart? If it does, then the path is good; if it doesn't, it is of no use. Both paths lead nowhere; but one has a heart, the other doesn't. One makes for a joyful journey; as long as you follow it, you are one with it. The other will make you curse your life. One makes you strong; the other weakens you.": - Don Juan Matus in The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge by Carlos Castenada.


im not a fan of this quote even honestly. i suppose i disagree with every single premise. i thought those books were among the most misleading misinformation campaigns i have ever come across. i guess some of that was influenced by meeting a very devoted practitioner of those books who literally stole energy from anyone he could (with don juan's approval) to fuel his out of body experiences and get knowledge trading that energy for information from evil entities he met out in those dimensions.

he was a very dark soul and my first true adversary on the path.... he and those books were the first time i met someone who was evil who was also intelligent and disciplined and decidedly evil..... who did it all on purpose. i learned a lot from him but only about anti spirituality and that all paths are NOT equal.

i dont like the notion that all paths lead to the same place. you sure as shit wont end up where i am by stealing energy from people to trade for information from greedy entities in the spiritual dimensions. becoming strong in the way don juan frames it just means being a common bully....

those books left a really bad taste in my mouth, they come from sorcery rather than spirituality.
 
Used to do it around 5 years ago. Nothing to really he concerned with, the amount is so small it won't make you fly to the moon on a unicorn or anything. Definitely elevates your mood and can help focus.
 
[
im not a fan of this quote even honestly. i suppose i disagree with every single premise. i thought those books were among the most misleading misinformation campaigns i have ever come across. i guess some of that was influenced by meeting a very devoted practitioner of those books who literally stole energy from anyone he could (with don juan's approval) to fuel his out of body experiences and get knowledge trading that energy for information from evil entities he met out in those dimensions.

he was a very dark soul and my first true adversary on the path.... he and those books were the first time i met someone who was evil who was also intelligent and disciplined and decidedly evil..... who did it all on purpose. i learned a lot from him but only about anti spirituality and that all paths are NOT equal.

i dont like the notion that all paths lead to the same place. you sure as shit wont end up where i am by stealing energy from people to trade for information from greedy entities in the spiritual dimensions. becoming strong in the way don juan frames it just means being a common bully....

those books left a really bad taste in my mouth, they come from sorcery rather than spirituality.
I appreciate your take, I have never met anyone who is an actual practionioner of these arts. Not my kinda thing. I am a Christian as well so stealing energy isn't my goal. Just found the books interesting. I consider myself a spreader of light, not darkness or evil just to be clear.

Now on the quote, I interpreted it as all paths lead to your death in the end, which path you take to end up there is your choice. But that is my take, now I will have to rethink some of the other quotes I enjoyed from the book. Thanks for the input. I like it Sherbro.
 
Paul Stamets the mushroom scientist took a heroic dose by accident for the first time in his life and it permanently cured his life-long stutter. Was in the Netflix documentary. I'm not that brave though. I know no one dies from it. But still....kinda scary. Maybe good things can happen like it did to Paul. I don't know.

What do they class as a heroic dose?
 
Mushrooms have helped me immensely in many aspects. The value of those experiences cannot be measured. Therapists can only dream about having the kind of impact on their patients like psychedelics can have. But even after several incredibly healing and insightful experiences, I always felt a struggle.

But then I took some large doses and once I had an intense trip that basically cured my depression for good.

Now I don't feel the need to take mushrooms again.
 
Mushrooms have helped me immensely in many aspects. The value of those experiences cannot be measured. Therapists can only dream about having the kind of impact on their patients like psychedelics can have. But even after several incredibly healing and insightful experiences, I always felt a struggle.

But then I took some large doses and once I had an intense trip that basically cured my depression for good.

Now I don't feel the need to take mushrooms again.
With weed or booze I can get depressed some times mushrooms dont seem to do that to my brain I have random joy more on shrooms.
 
Last edited:
With weed or booze I can get depressed some times mushrooms dont seem to so that to my brain I have random joy more on shrooms.

I never felt good, physically or emotionally, on mushrooms except for maybe once. It's the aftermath that is helpful. I'm surprised some people say have fun on it or do it at parties.

I used to drink a lot to deal with my depression and get depressed even more while drunk, but my relationship with alcohol changed pretty much overnight after my first shroom trip. I still drink but I have a much more healthier relationship with it. I enjoy it but never rely on it and I don't feel down when I get drunk either like I used to.
 
I did microdosing with my son (high functioning autism) at .1g every three days for about a year. The effects were amazing. He became much more social with people and it opened up a whole new world for him.
love posts like this
 
I did microdosing with my son (high functioning autism) at .1g every three days for about a year. The effects were amazing. He became much more social with people and it opened up a whole new world for him.

Wow, that is amazing.

Why isn't the pharma industry taking this seriously? It will save lives.
 
Even good for fighting. Rockhold did great on his fight with Paulo Costa and he said he was dosing.
 
At the core all religions state the same. The problem is the "guru/rabbi/priest" interpretations.

If you dig deep enough, even all the mythology and the world creation myths are similar. It may not seem so, for ex. in abrahamic trio with "one God" and many Gods of Greeks/Romans and Hindus, butt...

If you really dig deep, all the info is there.
i dont think it is accurate that all religions are the same. there seems to be few other widely believed things that are less true than this statement.

if you look at the view of enlightenment between buddhism christianity hinduism and Judaism it is pretty clear that they are not the same and that they reject one anothers EXPERIENCE... not the words about the experience... but the experience itself.

there are some profound similarities but they have been overstated quite irresponsibly. buddhism and judaism represent the most divergent and wildly opposed states of enlightenment.

buddhism says that if there is any sense of self separate from the other you are not enlightened. even jesus experience does not quality in the buddhist view. buddhism also states that there is no self and there may be no god.

judaism says if you lose that sense of separation between god and self even for a moment you have entered heresy. there is a god, there is a self, and they are NOT the same thing nor even remotely equivalent. this is a description of the EXPERIENCE of enlightenment for jewish mystics and it is not just a language difference.

not only are the ENDS not the same but the MEANS are also very different. i dont teach meditation but i am qualified to do so in the christian tradition and i can tell you that most of what buddhism and hinduism teaches about meditation is completely incompatible theologically and practically with the christian traditions approach and theology.

it seems like the only people who claim all religion is the same and that everyone who is religious is wrong about this fact are those who have have very little knowledge of the various religions, produce no saints and provide no reliable repeatable means of producing enlightenment in others, and who themselves rarely have a deep penetration into even one tradition. these people seem to me to be the leaste qualified human beings on the planet to make these kinds of evaluations.

the fact is there are very important similarities that should make us feel a kinship towards one another but also many very important distinctions that ought themselves to be celebrated in the spirit of appreciating the beauty of diversity of spiritual experience and some would argue the innate subjective nature of it even though it seems non subjective when it is experienced.
 
Last edited:
I did microdosing with my son (high functioning autism) at .1g every three days for about a year. The effects were amazing. He became much more social with people and it opened up a whole new world for him.
have you read much about this with autism or is it just something you came up with? im quite interested for a friend.
 
Last edited:
Used to do it around 5 years ago. Nothing to really he concerned with, the amount is so small it won't make you fly to the moon on a unicorn or anything. Definitely elevates your mood and can help focus.

Apparently everyone in silicone valley was doing that with ecstasy.
 
I heard great things came from it. Or terrible things, depending on your pov.

Nixon was exaggerating when he put everything as a schedule 1 drug. How can an organic mushroom growing on feces be the same level as heroin that has a 99% addiction rate?? Crazy. What a shaft for psychedelic research and scientific advancement to cure people. Nixon was an asshole.
 
Nixon was exaggerating when he put everything as a schedule 1 drug. How can an organic mushroom growing on feces be the same level as heroin that has a 99% addiction rate?? Crazy. What a shaft for psychedelic research and scientific advancement to cure people. Nixon was an asshole.
Some places are coming around. Colorado just made mushrooms legal, apparently. Oregon did it a few years ago.
 
Anybody who thinks it’s okay to lock people in a cage for picking something that grows out of wood chips and cow manure when it rains, should be hung.

Nixon was exaggerating when he put everything as a schedule 1 drug. How can an organic mushroom growing on feces be the same level as heroin that has a 99% addiction rate?? Crazy. What a shaft for psychedelic research and scientific advancement to cure people. Nixon was an asshole.
 
Back
Top