Michael Johnson beats Barboza on the feet but struggles with Dariush? :/

[e92m3]

Dariush is a phenomenal striker. Comparing Jake shields to him is like putting Nolan Ryans name next to Hedeki Irabu

 

[HeexX]

Why do people think Dariush has bad striking? He doesn't.

 

[ConradMcgilcuty]

Dariush looked huge compared to Johnson, I think he would have a speed advantage at welterweight. In case RDA is still champ at the time.

 

[KhabibTheBeagle]

Why do people think Dariush has bad striking? He doesn't.

He has a good jab, good kicks and knees. He is no Barboza, but he has some potent tools on the feet, for sure.

 

[Harlekin]

He won 2 rounds and lost the third because he gassed. That's about it.
His stamina was fine in the Barboza fight.

 

[KantoTerror]

Struggled? Nah....

Robbery

30-27 or 29-28 at worst for MJ

I scored 29-28 for MJ but scoring 30-27 for MJ is beyond robbery even worst than Dariush 29-28. You have some sort of arguement on rd 2 for dariush...But I'd like to hear how you score the 3rd rd for MJ...

 

[KantoTerror]

Why do people think Dariush has bad striking? He doesn't.

This. Barboza is explosive and has good kicks but overall Dariush is way slicker and knows how to mix his attacks. those knees were well utilized.

 

[legkicktko]

Barboza is just as inconsistent. When he starts feeling the punches...he becomes a cyclist....Beneil got tagged and was still able to keep MJ at the end of his jab and made MJ missed a lot. Barboza is the better offensive striker, but Beneil has better defense. He was able to block or roll majority of MJs strikes, it keeps him at the right distance to be able to counter and tag MJ. While Barboza would just keep back pedaling and can't mount his own offense vs. MJ.

Sounds nice in theory, but it is just not true. Barboza made Johnson miss horribly. He was at 20% accuracy verses Barboza. He landed twice as many strikes on Dariush and was twice as accurate.

 

[Ragnarocker]

I think this is a case of Michael Menace fighting up to the supposed level of his competition. Barboza has the reputation of being a dangerous striker and was #6 or 7 when they fought, so he took that fight more seriously. Now when faced with a relative unknown like BD, he takes it easy and coasts. His bad.

 

[legkicktko]

I think this is a case of Michael Menace fighting up to the supposed level of his competition. Barboza has the reputation of being a dangerous striker and was #6 or 7 when they fought, so he took that fight more seriously. Now when faced with a relative unknown like BD, he takes it easy and coasts. His bad.

This. And also, Beneil has the threat of his killer ground game which stifled Johnson's high volume combinations. Obviously if he threw 5 and 6 punch combos like against Barboza, he gives Dariush an opportunity to duck under and time a TD. He had to keep them short and sweet and was more hesitant to close distance because of TD.

It hurts my brain to see people say Beneil fights better going backwards or his jab is just that good and that's why he won. He did not have a clean connection until the third round and it was completely unable to set up his TDs with strikes which is why his TDs looked like they came from 15 feet away.

 

[method115]

First : he should have won the decision

Second : the threat of the TD changes a lot of things.

Agreed I'll add one more thing.

3. The jab - It's the only thing Dariush had in that fight and the one of the things Barboza lacks.

 

[The Don]

I don't know. But I do know that Michael Johnson has been somewhat inconsistent in his career.

Plus, different styles bring different challenges.

Agreed.

 

[rudel]

its possible that michael johnson fights better with a striker willing to go at it, but with dariush who throws the occasional kick and jab, johnson just couldn't find his rhythm, just like pacquiao who didn't find his timing against mayweather because of his style of fighting which primarily relies on defense, beniel didn't go full speed or expend energy for johnson to capitalize on openings

 

[The_Renaissance]

Styles make fights.

Barboza didn't have any threat other than a kickboxing match. Dariush was game for that and while he failed miserably with his takedown attempts, the threat of one landing was still there and Beneil's a scary BJJ'er.

 

[LEMONZEST]

Why do people think Dariush has bad striking? He doesn't.

Bingo. People just put Dariush in the "BJJ" box instead of the "striker" box. He is known as the submission specialist however his striking is phenomenal as we saw in r3., potentially better than MJ.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Swarmers beat technical

Counter punching boxer punchers beat swarmers


Didn't your mama teach you guys anything?

 

[Hungry Friend]

I had MJ winning the fight but fearing the TD is probably part of it and there's also the possibility he just wanted to fight safe because of how much momentum he had built up before that fight.

its possible that michael johnson fights better with a striker willing to go at it, but with dariush who throws the occasional kick and jab, johnson just couldn't find his rhythm, just like pacquiao who didn't find his timing against mayweather because of his style of fighting which primarily relies on defense, beniel didn't go full speed or expend energy for johnson to capitalize on openings

Pacquiao was also out of shape(for him, heaviest he's ever been after rehydrating) heard his right shoulder was injured but I also think he simply underestimated Floyd. Manny stupidly tried to bullrush MW and attack him in a straight line which has literally never worked, and he didn't throw the jab nearly enough.

The one time he had Floyd hurt he backed off, likely due to the fact he was out of shape compared to his usual self. I still think Floyd would've won because he's bigger, faster and Manny does not do well against skilled counterpunchers. Manny got owned badly in that(boring) fight.

 

[rudel]

johnsons striking also became predictable. relying only on jab straight combos, waiting to counter on dariush's kicks amd flying knees, round three we saw less kicks and more flick jabs which are hard to time because it has no telegraphed movement, dariush also seems larger with longer reach, meaning dariush didnt have to kick to hit the opponent at longer distances.

 

[scorpipede]

I don't get it.

It's the same with Shields. Dude looks stiff as hell and yet no one can destroy him on the feet.
Dariush seems better than Shields but still miles behind Barboza and yet MJ didn't seem to capitalize too much.

Why?

I don't know. But I do know that Michael Johnson has been somewhat inconsistent in his career.

Plus, different styles bring different challenges.

Dariush was a constant threat of takedown. Barboza wants to strike.

c'mon bruh! use your thinks!!