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Measles outbreak in Gaines county, Texas.

chardog said:
you low key proved my point, it's a lower grade sickness that you're mandated to get the vaccine. chicken pox causes death and it's lower grade and caused hundreds of deaths a year.

even in the 60's, 80 years back by your own admission, there were only a few hundred among hundreds of millions of people.

the flu on the other hand.... cant figure that out
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"Only a few hundred". Now "single digits" becomes "only a few hundred". Except that isn't right. A "few hundred" would suggest 200, but it was more than 500, and if we adjusted that for the population today, it would be over a thousand. But, hey, I'm sure suddenly you'd be singing, "It was only a few thousand."

Measles killed children: mostly those under the age of 5. Influenza couldn't be vaccinated as effectively for life, especially with just two doses, which is what most Americans receive, as it mutates annually, and is (like COVID) often the primary contributor to deaths in the elderly and diseased.
chardog said:
here's a question for you:

around 10% of the measles outbreak cases involved fully vaccinated, multiple shot folks. Since these shots are four years apart, should there be a mandate to get the MMR shot every four years in an attempt to reduce that 10% down to zero?
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Which is why, if you stop to think that the unvaccinated make up less than 9% of our population, but ~90% of those contracting the disease, they are so overwhelmingly more likely to be the ones who will revive and spread the disease to others.

I think if over 95% get the shot twice in their lifetime, it would be sufficient to maintain the elimination of the disease as the CDC defined that in the post I made above.
 
Madmick said:
"Only a few hundred". Now "single digits" becomes "only a few hundred". Except that isn't right. A "few hundred" would suggest 200, but it was more than 500, and if we adjusted that for the population today, it would be over a thousand. But, hey, I'm sure suddenly you'd be singing, "It was only a few thousand."

Measles killed children: mostly those under the age of 5. Influenza couldn't be vaccinated as effectively for life, especially with just two doses, which is what most Americans receive, as it mutates annually, and is (like COVID) often the primary contributor to deaths in the elderly and diseased.

Which is why, if you stop to think that the unvaccinated make up less than 9% of our population, but ~90% of those contracting the disease, they are so overwhelmingly more likely to be the ones who will revive and spread the disease to others.

I think if over 95% get the shot twice in their lifetime, it would be sufficient to maintain the elimination of the disease as the CDC defined that in the post I made above.
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- And can leave a person harmed for life. Measles aka Sarampo here, is a very dangerous decease!
 
LeonardoBjj said:
- Wondt they lose the guard of the childrens ?
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Are you asking if the parents don't vaccinate, will they lose guardianship of their children? Nah. Some public schools won't let the children attend, but many states are giving out vaccine exemptions like doctors give out cannabis cards.
 
Madmick said:
"Only a few hundred". Now "single digits" becomes "only a few hundred". Except that isn't right. A "few hundred" would suggest 200, but it was more than 500, and if we adjusted that for the population today, it would be over a thousand. But, hey, I'm sure suddenly you'd be singing, "It was only a few thousand."

Measles killed children: mostly those under the age of 5. Influenza couldn't be vaccinated as effectively for life, especially with just two doses, which is what most Americans receive, as it mutates annually, and is (like COVID) often the primary contributor to deaths in the elderly and diseased.

Which is why, if you stop to think that the unvaccinated make up less than 9% of our population, but ~90% of those contracting the disease, they are so overwhelmingly more likely to be the ones who will revive and spread the disease to others.

I think if over 95% get the shot twice in their lifetime, it would be sufficient to maintain the elimination of the disease as the CDC defined that in the post I made above.
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Mick, what the hell are you doing over here making posts I like and agree with. Knock it off, it's weird
 
SKYNET said:
As bad as that answer was, it is @DoctorTaco who would think doctors are infallible
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No one said doctors are infallible. Are you more comfortable trusting a lawyer to your medical decisions? As far as kickbacks you mentioned in another post. I would be completely fine with outlawing such arrangements completely. I would like to see pharmas influence over doctors erode significantly. I don’t think there would be a way to eliminate it completely though.
 
Source said:
No one said doctors are infallible. Are you more comfortable trusting a lawyer to your medical decisions? As far as kickbacks you mentioned in another post. I would be completely fine with outlawing such arrangements completely. I would like to see pharmas influence over doctors erode significantly. I don’t think there would be a way to eliminate it completely though.
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Doc thinks our doctors are gonna be the ones to make calls on which children get to be medically exempt. Obviously @DoctorTaco shows bias but my point dipped in hyperbole was meant to say doctors are some of the hardest for me to trust with that call.
 
SKYNET said:
Doc thinks our doctors are gonna be the ones to make calls on which children get to be medically exempt. Obviously @DoctorTaco shows bias but my point dipped in hyperbole was meant to say doctors are some of the hardest for me to trust with that call.
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It’s a tough situation in general. For stuff like that I’m fine with parents choosing. Just like anything education and understanding what is being presented is important. We’re very lucky to be living now where most of the current generations have been vaccinated. Which I think a lot of vax resistant parents count on. So a couple of isolated groups isn’t generally as big of a deal. If somehow the anti-vax mind set takes off we could see some real harm done in the future especially with at risk groups that can’t be vaccinated.
 
SKYNET said:
Doc thinks our doctors are gonna be the ones to make calls on which children get to be medically exempt. Obviously @DoctorTaco shows bias but my point dipped in hyperbole was meant to say doctors are some of the hardest for me to trust with that call.
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I generally let doctors make the call in most medical situations. They don’t tell me how to teach boxing or how to get stoned and argue politics on a karate forum, I’m not telling them how to do their job.
 
DoctorTaco said:
I generally let doctors make the call in most medical situations. They don’t tell me how to teach boxing or how to get stoned and argue politics on a karate forum, I’m not telling them how to do their job.
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Not me, most doctors I've met don't have their patients best interest in mind. I worked in the medical field during the pandemic and my gf has over 20 years as well.
 
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