McGregor cheated at least 19 times against Khabib; Herb Dean should be fired.

Nah. Then you are giving advantages for defence in a sport that only scores offence. It goes against how MMA is scored.

It's possible to use the cage without grabbing it to defend and get up anyway. I lean on the side of auto point deductions following a review by a cage side ref on video.

Prohibiting fence grabs as a defense against takedowns is an arbitrary rule with no real use other than to make defending harder. It's like a rule against checking kicks, so that more offense can score.
 
Take a point for the Anderson shorts grab. That was pretty bad.

Poirer is ok though. You could argue he changed position due to his toes in the cage I guess.
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Same round from Conor and it wasn't the first time.
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Colin's a bitch, Herb is a bitch to.
 
you gotta wonder where this level of desperation cope comes from, given that Khabib beat Connor - yet your'e still upset over something

Look at your examples, you call what is an elbow strike to the side of the head, maybe a bicept to the top of the head... a foul... lmao
 
Prohibiting fence grabs as a defense against takedowns is an arbitrary rule with no real use other than to make defending harder. It's like a rule against checking kicks, so that more offense can score.
I disagree, how do you counter someone grabbing the fence? You can't pry there fingers off because it's small joint manipulation. On a side note if you could standing head butt I'd be happy with fence grabbing.
 
Yea , like I'm really looking for validation and likes on a post buried 20 something pages deep into a thread. Where's your common sense boy?

I don't even know why I respond to these total noobs anymore lol

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My common sense may have got knocked the fuck out of me kinda like your boy did in a rightful KO
 
Tbf if he actually did do something about Conors fouls, Conor most likely would've ended up getting disqualified. Which I don't think anybody would've enjoyed. I rather enjoyed watching him get mauled and submitted.

That being said, I agree that Herb Dean should've been fired.
 
You spent how long putting this together?
5-10 minutes, it didn't take very long.

you gotta wonder where this level of desperation cope comes from, given that Khabib beat Connor - yet your'e still upset over something
You're trying to ascribe things on to me that don't exist, I'm neither desperate nor trying to cope with anything. A referee ignoring 19 fouls is incompetence at best and corruption at worst (his wife works for the UFC), but for some reason you think that should be ignored all because the person who was victim to the fouls won the fight in this instance.

But as a Sherdogger said earlier:
Here's the go to rationale on the part of WME: please ignore the corruption since it didn't have the desired end result, therefore didn't count.

Also, please ignore WW2. Hitler didn't win so quit your bitching.
 
Bet you never complained when kazuya mishima channeled his devil form to obliterate his competition
 
My problem with that reasoning is that to me it cuts against the essence of MMA. Essentially you're saying that an unskilled defense, grabbing on to a fence, renders years of training useless.

If that is true, then takedowns are far less effective than we've been led to believe, and if that is true then wrestling is massively overrated and largely exists as a result of a ruleset that forbids easy and effective defense against it.

Greasing is banned for the same reason. You're basically saying that it would be ridiculous to ban fighters from bringing shields to the octagon because it would mean that striking is massively overrated when years of training could be rendered useless.
 
With all the loyal Fedor fans on sherdog you still couldn’t get anyone to cosign this lol. You may have overhugged the sack buddy. That’s taboo
Im surprised you're not pulling the race card in this thread as is your normal M.O.
 
Imagine cheating close to 20 times only to still get dominated and finished.
 
Greasing is banned for the same reason. You're basically saying that it would be ridiculous to ban fighters from bringing shields to the octagon because it would mean that striking is massively overrated when years of training could be rendered useless.

I'm not saying anything of the kind. I see a fairly obvious distinction between forbidding a certain type of equipment altogether, like shields (I should mention I thought this was an imaginative example), and arbitrarily forbidding the use of the environment provided by the fight org in the one of the most sensible and obvious ways.

And really, what we have now is a pretty good system, in which fence grabbing is discouraged, but almost never penalized, even in sometimes egregious cases. Points should almost never be taken for fence grabs, and really, they aren't.
 
I'm not saying anything of the kind. I see a fairly obvious distinction between forbidding a certain type of equipment altogether, like shields (I should mention I thought this was an imaginative example), and arbitrarily forbidding the use of the environment provided by the fight org in the one of the most sensible and obvious ways.

And really, what we have now is a pretty good system, in which fence grabbing is discouraged, but almost never penalized, even in sometimes egregious cases. Points should almost never be taken for fence grabs, and really, they aren't.

Well, then imagine if a fighter does an Anderson Silva and keeps putting the ref between himself and his opponent to avoid striking. Or climbs out of the ring to take a break.

Grabbing the fence can negate wrestling. Saying it means wrestling must be overrated is very strange to me.
 
Grabbing the fence can negate wrestling.

Exactly. And thus forbidding it gives an arbitrary advantage to wrestlers based on rules and not based on technique. Fence-grabbing is part of the game, and pretty much always has been. It's a semi-legal technique in that while forbidden it is almost never punished. There's way too much complaining about it.

Now, if your target is McGregor and his in-cage shenanigans, I think he should have certainly been docked a point for his grounded knee.
 
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