McGregor cheated at least 19 times against Khabib; Herb Dean should be fired.

[Mind Mine]

Im surprised you're not pulling the race card in this thread as is your normal M.O.

Honestly for a person that didn’t say a damn thing about race and has literally mentioned race one time my entire time on this here karate forum you bringing race up to me now kinda solidified my stance on you. Basically I don’t even know you by name and you are still devastated over being called out. Way to prove me right

 

[Strijfy]

Honestly for a person that didn’t say a damn thing about race and has literally mentioned race one time my entire time on this here karate forum you bringing race up to me now kinda solidified my stance on you. Basically I don’t even know you by name and you are still devastated over being called out. Way to prove me right

LOL@devasted being called out by a non-event... trust me dude, you have nothing, you know nothing. I poked you responded.
Im just highlighting what a hypocritical bell end you are....enjoy the thread

 

[Mind Mine]

LOL@devasted being called out by a non-event... trust me dude, you have nothing, you know nothing. I poked you responded.
Im just highlighting what a hypocritical bell end you are....enjoy the thread

Let me explain how this works bucko. If I called you a real platypus. You wouldn’t have remembered my name. You would have said I’m no platypus this guy’s just talking. However you make up the most ridiculous accusations on Sterling and get called on it and here you are a week later. Triggered as Billy the Kidd. Nervous and uncomfortable. Now if you just didn’t say shit we would have both moved on. The devastation in your soul couldn’t take it. Daddy still loves you my son

 

[The Clamburglar]

He committed 20+ fouls against Mayweather too.

 

[stacrafty]

you gotta wonder where this level of desperation cope comes from, given that Khabib beat Connor - yet your'e still upset over something

Look at your examples, you call what is an elbow strike to the side of the head, maybe a bicept to the top of the head... a foul... lmao

5-10 minutes, it didn't take very long.


You're trying to ascribe things on to me that don't exist, I'm neither desperate nor trying to cope with anything. A referee ignoring 19 fouls is incompetence at best and corruption at worst (his wife works for the UFC), but for some reason you think that should be ignored all because the person who was victim to the fouls won the fight in this instance.

But as a Sherdogger said earlier:

"things that don't exist"

to be fair you are red belt, so that means you have been consistently making clueless posts for a very long time

 

[BJJ Lover]

Herb Dean was ignoring Conor's fouls but it was in Khabib's favor because if Herb DQ'd Conor, Conor would act like he never lost to Khabib.

 

[Tapatio]

 

[CPH]

Or in the third Conor Dustin fight, Dustin put his toes in the cage to get out of a guillotine, nobody points that out,

Few complained about it because most people understand that your toes briefly slipping into one of the fence eyelets is something that is bound to happen when you push off. It is in no way comparable to hooking a glove or gripping the opponent’s shorts, which is why it is not illegal.

Actually, I have an issue with your entire take. Yes, various fouls fouls do occur when athletes are in the heat of competition, but a dozen+ of fouls, including short grabs and an illegal knee going ignored in a single fight is exceedingly rare. You are free to show me examples where this has happened before.

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

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Old cat bum lips

 

[John12]

Herb Dean should've been fired a long time ago

 

[Cpt Migraine]

Exactly. And thus forbidding it gives an arbitrary advantage to wrestlers based on rules and not based on technique. Fence-grabbing is part of the game, and pretty much always has been. It's a semi-legal technique in that while forbidden it is almost never punished. There's way too much complaining about it.

Now, if your target is McGregor and his in-cage shenanigans, I think he should have certainly been docked a point for his grounded knee.

I always appreciate your posts! Sound takes on everything.. keep up the good work!

 

[don't ask]

And thus forbidding it gives an arbitrary advantage to wrestlers based on rules and not based on technique.

It's not an arbitrary advantage: without it, you don't have mixed martial arts, you have kickboxing. There are a lot of problems caused by the cage that you wouldn't have from a ring and so they've tried to legislate them away.

Also, saying something is semi-legal because it's rarely called is not accurate. By that definition, Jon Jones eye pokes are semi-legal.

Legalizing fence grabbing would significantly impact the sport.

 

[Mage]

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

It's not an arbitrary advantage: without it, you don't have mixed martial arts, you have kickboxing. There are a lot of problems caused by the cage that you wouldn't have from a ring and so they've tried to legislate them away.

Also, saying something is semi-legal because it's rarely called is not accurate. By that definition, Jon Jones eye pokes are semi-legal.

Legalizing fence grabbing would significantly impact the sport.

It is arbitrary. There's no reason for the rule except to make defense harder. It's giving wrestling an advantage not inherent in wrestling itself. If merely grabbing a fence can easily impede takedowns, then takedowns are overrated.

As far as legalizing fence grabs, they are already more or less legal. Fighters are almost never punished for blatant or repeated fence grabs.

 

[chimpoehurricane]

McGregor still went 4rds after a 2 year hiatus. Justin couldn't last 1 and Porier couldn't last 2. Prime McGregor was something else.

 

[chimpoehurricane]

Round 1

(1) Grabbing shorts with his left hand.

(2) Strikes to the back of the head, (3) 12-6 elbows, and (4) grabbing shorts with his left hand.

(5) Grabbing shorts with his left hand.

(6) Strikes to the back of the head and (7) 12-6 elbow.

(8) Grabbing shorts with his left hand.

Round 2

(9) Kneeing a downed opponent.

This couldn't have been anymore flagrant; it's not like they were in a position in which it was difficult for McGregor to assess whether or not Nurmagomedov was a downed opponent.

(10) Grabbing the cage with his toes.

(11) Grabbing the cage with his toes.

And this foul was done right after Dean had already removed McGregor's toes from the cage.

Round 3

(12) Groin strike.

(13) Grabbing shorts with his left hand.

(14) Hooking fingers into opponent's glove.

(15) Hooking fingers into opponent's glove and (16) strike to the back of the head.

This might be one the most obvious signs of Herb Dean's incompetence/corruption: McGregor had hooked his fingers into Nurmagomedov's glove for 24 seconds in plain view of Dean, and not only was a warning not given nor a point deducted from McGregor, Dean actually gave Nurmagomedov a warning for inactivity.

Round 4

(17) Grabbing the cage with his right hand.

(18) Grabbing the cage with his toes.

(19) Grabbing the cage with his toes.

Herb Dean recently explained his rationale for not deducting a single point for any of these fouls, but all he's achieved is make himself look worse:



What exactly does excitement have to do with a referees job? His job is to protect the fighters and ensure that the rules are being followed. Nurmagomedov wasn't protected from McGregor's fouls nor were the rules being enforced.


And yet how much did the above 19 fouls affect the outcome?

One of Dean's many flawed explanations for why he didn't take a point was because he didn't want to reward McGregor with a stand up by calling a pause in the action to deduct a point.

However, I copied this directly from the Unified Rules of MMA:

What's hilarious is that Dean has deducted points, without pausing the action, in past fights: he deducted a point from Gabriel Gonzaga in the Randy Couture fight for grabbing the fence in the second round, and did not pause the action (because Couture was in an advantageous position).

Another example was when John McCarthy deducted a point from Tito Ortiz for grabbing the fence against Rashad Evans at UFC 73; McCarthy didn't pause the action at all and Evans maintained top position.

Oh and McGregor has already admitted to cheating on Twitter:

Why so emotional? It's 2022. He retired. Didn't want that smoke in the rematch.

 

[Mcnugget]

Considering who khabib claims to be it’s kind of wild that he spends the fight crying to the ref about strikes. It’s a fucking fight. Nothing about a knee while you’re both downed feels unsportsmanlike. You’re the grappling god fighting an Irish boxer. He’s gonna grab your gloves if you refuse to stand up and have some fun

 

[WhiteMousse]

Cheating is a valid tactic.

...wait

You know, I really do miss you. On one hand I hope you're still around here on another account. On the other account it would make me very sad if some of those shitty accounts turned out to be you

 

[chinarice]

I agree, Herb Dean should be fired but not specifically for this fight. Just for being in general a bad ref for like a decade now

 

[Mage]

Considering who khabib claims to be it’s kind of wild that he spends the fight crying to the ref about strikes. It’s a fucking fight. Nothing about a knee while you’re both downed feels unsportsmanlike. You’re the grappling god fighting an Irish boxer. He’s gonna grab your gloves if you refuse to stand up and have some fun

If its a fucking fight Khabib could have snapped his neck as well right ?