Max vs Chuck for BMF title

Charles agrees he should be next, he's just saying he isn't going to wait till October for islam, so if that's when Islam plans to fight, he'll stay busy in the meantime

Charles x Arman if there is going to be a forced title eliminator.
 
Charles x Arman if there is going to be a forced title eliminator.

I'm fine with either one, but I think Charles vs. Max is the bigger fight. We just saw Charles vs. Arman.
 
I'm fine with either one, but I think Charles vs. Max is the bigger fight. We just saw Charles vs. Arman.


Max is coming off a brutal knockout loss in a fight he was not competitive. Its fairly ridiculous his next fight is a title eliminator.

If there is to be a title eliminator, how in the world would he skip past Arman? Bad for the sport, we have enough problems with legitimacy.
 
Max is coming off a brutal knockout loss in a fight he was not competitive. Its fairly ridiculous his next fight is a title eliminator.

If there is to be a title eliminator, how in the world would he skip past Arman? Bad for the sport, we have enough problems with legitimacy.

Max is max. He's not going to be in a small fight, especially when he holds the stupid BMF title. He's basically the Robert whittaker of always being in the top 5 and always fighting top 5 guys. If they book Charles vs. Max, I imagine that arman will fight someone else too in the meantime. ARman will have his chance to make his claim to the next shot still, so it wouldn't be guarenteed that charles vs. Max is for the next crack at the belt. If Max wins, it would be very clear that Arman would be next assuming arman wins a fight in the meantime, too.

Are you sure you just don't want to see charles and max ruin eachothers chins?
 
Max is max. He's not going to be in a small fight,

Not in a small fight != a lightweight title eliminator IMO

especially when he holds the stupid BMF title.

Hold on now... are we living in a world where getting knocked out dead means you retain a made up belt/title? How in the world does that work? You just decide when you do and do not want it to count?

The Nate Diaz invented belt in rankings discussions is the most meta shit

He's basically the Robert whittaker of always being in the top 5 and always fighting top 5 guys.

Not at lightweight. He's 1-1 in the division overall. The guy he beat is over ranked and we can run a highlight reel of JG getting stomped out.

If they book Charles vs. Max, I imagine that arman will fight someone else too in the meantime. ARman will have his chance to make his claim to the next shot still, so it wouldn't be guarenteed that charles vs. Max is for the next crack at the belt. If Max wins, it would be very clear that Arman would be next assuming arman wins a fight in the meantime, too.

History demands Islam face Arman, so we can determine who the best is of this generation. It would honestly be a travesty in the sport if we miss this opportunity, and Arman is also very rightfully the #1 contender.

I'm against any fights that present to deter that fight from happening. If a title eliminator must happen, it should be between the two contenders for the title shot, not a guy coming off a KO loss in another division.

Are you sure you just don't want to see charles and max ruin eachothers chins?

IMO Max has absolute no chance of being lightweight champion and loses to all of them - Islam, Arman and Charles. Arguably he has the best shot against Charles.

If we are talking personal bias, I like Do Bronx the most of any lightweight and would like to see him champion. Ultimately I care more about seeing the best fights that make sense over my person likes, or at least thats what I tell myself ; )
 
Not in a small fight != a lightweight title eliminator IMO



Hold on now... are we living in a world where getting knocked out dead means you retain a made up belt/title? How in the world does that work? You just decide when you do and do not want it to count?

The Nate Diaz invented belt in rankings discussions is the most meta shit



Not at lightweight. He's 1-1 in the division overall. The guy he beat is over ranked and we can run a highlight reel of JG getting stomped out.



History demands Islam face Arman, so we can determine who the best is of this generation. It would honestly be a travesty in the sport if we miss this opportunity, and Arman is also very rightfully the #1 contender.

I'm against any fights that present to deter that fight from happening. If a title eliminator must happen, it should be between the two contenders for the title shot, not a guy coming off a KO loss in another division.



IMO Max has absolute no chance of being lightweight champion and loses to all of them - Islam, Arman and Charles. Arguably he has the best shot against Charles.

If we are talking personal bias, I like Do Bronx the most of any lightweight and would like to see him champion. Ultimately I care more about seeing the best fights that make sense over my person likes, or at least thats what I tell myself ; )

Unfortunately, we do live in a world where max is still the BMF champ. That's why I called it stupid. I don't care how they match the guys up that much -- any fight with Max or charles is going to be good -- I just think them together would draw a ton of eyeballs.

Anyways, as a Do bronx fan, I'll share some information I heard from gilbert burns somewhere: apparently Charles was injured in the islam fight and the UFC knew about it too. I think that's part of the reason why the UFC is so willing to keep putting charles back in the title opportunity....because they owe him one.

I'd like to see Do bronx get one last shot before his age truly starts showing.
 
Unfortunately, we do live in a world where max is still the BMF champ. That's why I called it stupid. I don't care how they match the guys up that much -- any fight with Max or charles is going to be good -- I just think them together would draw a ton of eyeballs.

Anyways, as a Do bronx fan, I'll share some information I heard from gilbert burns somewhere: apparently Charles was injured in the islam fight and the UFC knew about it too. I think that's part of the reason why the UFC is so willing to keep putting charles back in the title opportunity....because they owe him one.

I'd like to see Do bronx get one last shot before his age truly starts showing.


Is this related to Charles showing up to UAE late for that fight?

I remember there was a big controversy on why he had not left town yet ....
 
Is this related to Charles showing up to UAE late for that fight?

I remember there was a big controversy on why he had not left town yet ....

I don't know. Burns just said charles was injured in that islam fight and that charles told the UFC about the injury. He mentioned some more information on it will probably be coming out soon from brazilian media, but who knows. I doubt charles is the kind of guy who will talk much about it.

It could all be nonsense, but I do tend to believe that he was injured in that fight because he looked like he didn't want to be there from the moment he was walking out to the cage.
 
Max is coming off a brutal knockout loss in a fight he was not competitive. Its fairly ridiculous his next fight is a title eliminator.

If there is to be a title eliminator, how in the world would he skip past Arman? Bad for the sport, we have enough problems with legitimacy.
his last fight at LW was knockout of the year against a perennial top 5 LW.

He could have gotten a title shot off of that fight alone.
 
What?? Chuck is way too big for Max. a LHW vs a LW?
 
Actually, the "way nicknames work" is that a person who is Charles is also Chuck, it's an auto-nickname. That makes it different.

I highly admire Charles David Lidell though, so we at least agree on that with some mutual admiration. Charlie was a hell of a fighter.
Dick Franklin agrees

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