Mass Effect Trilogy Remaster Announced (Release date May 14)

[SalvadorCollie]

Fawk, I replayed the series like 6 months ago.

Rented #2 on a whim way back when and fell in love with the franchise.

own Andromeda but haven’t played it yet.

 

[Gregolian]

Lol you're triggered over Jaal feeling uncomfortable around aliens? Did you forget Ashley's xenophobia in Mass Effect 1? Or how elves and mages are oppressed in Dragon Age? Like I said, Bioware has always been a progressive gaming studio.

They've always been more progressive but they've gotten stupid levels heavy handed with it in the more recent DA and ME games to the point it takes away from the experience at times.

That one ME2 DLC where you blow up the Mass Effect relay in Bahtarian space and you kill who knows how many and people harp on you about it. DID FUCKING EVERYONE IN THE ALLIANCE FORGET THE BAHTARIANS ARE FUCKING SLAVERS?!

 

[blaseblah]

They've always been more progressive but they've gotten stupid levels heavy handed with it in the more recent DA and ME games to the point it takes away from the experience at times.

That one ME2 DLC where you blow up the Mass Effect relay in Bahtarian space and you kill who knows how many and people harp on you about it. DID FUCKING EVERYONE IN THE ALLIANCE FORGET THE BAHTARIANS ARE FUCKING SLAVERS?!

That's not heavy-handed. You guys are ridiculous. It's one thing to complain about changing an existing game to be woke when it wasn't previously. That was dumb. But a progressive game developer has a right to exist. They've been doing this since the 90s. You are acting just as intolerant as the people who cry about violence in GTA and want to censor it. Bioware likes to include diversity, inclusion, and address social issues in their games and always has.

 

[method115]

That's not heavy-handed. You guys are ridiculous. It's one thing to complain about changing an existing game to be woke when it wasn't previously. That was dumb. But a progressive game developer has a right to exist. They've been doing this since the 90s. You are acting just as intolerant as the people who cry about violence in GTA and want to censor it. Bioware likes to include diversity, inclusion, and address social issues in their games and always has.

Yea I've never thought Bioware was over the top. There might be certain quest\events I missed but if I can get through the game and not have any issues then it's fine. I was disappointed when I thought me and Kaiden were bros but turns out he just wanted to fuck me the whole time.

 

[Gregolian]

That's not heavy-handed. You guys are ridiculous. It's one thing to complain about changing an existing game to be woke when it wasn't previously. That was dumb. But a progressive game developer has a right to exist. They've been doing this since the 90s. You are acting just as intolerant as the people who cry about violence in GTA and want to censor it. Bioware likes to include diversity, inclusion, and address social issues in their games and always has.

I'm not saying they shouldn't put that shit in but for some reason so much of it felt too upfront in Inquisition and Andromeda. Course, Andromeda had so many other issues with it at launch (and I fucking finished it within like 2 weeks of it coming out) that any little thing that annoyed me got amplified.

I don't mind having it in there, the way they handled the City Elf and Dalish Elf origin stories in Origins was great, especially when you show up later in the story as a City Elf in the Alienage. It was even good if you were like a mage and the way they handle THAT aspect in Origins and II was great. It gets too "us vs them" in Inquisition though... especially if you read any of the books as in the books it kept the slight nuance that it had from Origins. In Inquisition (and a bit in II) it went from shades of grey for how people felt about the elves to full blown:
- You either fully want them to take Thedas over again
- Wanted to fucking genocide them all

From the NPCs you talk to. THAT'S the issue I take with modern BioWare. There's no subtlety to what they do when they try to address social issues.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

If you're starved for new Legendary Edition news, well, there's nothing new but if you like to listen to a long-form audio essay about the Mass Effect series - I'm 25 minutes into this 104 minute long video and I can already say its good enough to recommend.

It made me laugh within the first minute.

 

[hillelslovak87]

I'm not saying they shouldn't put that shit in but for some reason so much of it felt too upfront in Inquisition and Andromeda. Course, Andromeda had so many other issues with it at launch (and I fucking finished it within like 2 weeks of it coming out) that any little thing that annoyed me got amplified.

I don't mind having it in there, the way they handled the City Elf and Dalish Elf origin stories in Origins was great, especially when you show up later in the story as a City Elf in the Alienage. It was even good if you were like a mage and the way they handle THAT aspect in Origins and II was great. It gets too "us vs them" in Inquisition though... especially if you read any of the books as in the books it kept the slight nuance that it had from Origins. In Inquisition (and a bit in II) it went from shades of grey for how people felt about the elves to full blown:
- You either fully want them to take Thedas over again
- Wanted to fucking genocide them all

From the NPCs you talk to. THAT'S the issue I take with modern BioWare. There's no subtlety to what they do when they try to address social issues.

It's amazing how these "narrative geniuses" could never figure out

Character A has a position, firmly held

Character B has a contrary position, firmly held

Character C subverts both positions

Both A and B evolve over time

I mean, is that super hard???

 

[Gregolian]

It's amazing how these "narrative geniuses" could never figure out

Character A has a position, firmly held

Character B has a contrary position, firmly held

Character C subverts both positions

Both A and B evolve over time

I mean, is that super hard???

It shouldn't be and the only one that seems to have ever had that sort of evolution was Ashley from ME1 but so many people got annoyed at how, well... confrontational she was about being anti alien that they never saw that slight change in 2 and then more of it in 3.

Alistair with trusting mages is another good one and there are some great lines in there if your character is a female mage and chooses to get romantically involved with him. Cullen too I suppose but the payoff with him doesn't appear until Inquisition and you only interact with him sparingly in Origins unless you're, again... a female mage and as such get the Circle Tower Origin story.

But after those two I can't think of other characters in their different games that ever really evolve. Jack from ME2 maybe? Calms down a bit between 2 and 3 but is still pretty short tempered and angtsy.

 

[hillelslovak87]

It shouldn't be and the only one that seems to have ever had that sort of evolution was Ashley from ME1 but so many people got annoyed at how, well... confrontational she was about being anti alien that they never saw that slight change in 2 and then more of it in 3.

Alistair with trusting mages is another good one and there are some great lines in there if your character is a female mage and chooses to get romantically involved with him. Cullen too I suppose but the payoff with him doesn't appear until Inquisition and you only interact with him sparingly in Origins unless you're, again... a female mage and as such get the Circle Tower Origin story.

But after those two I can't think of other characters in their different games that ever really evolve. Jack from ME2 maybe? Calms down a bit between 2 and 3 but is still pretty short tempered and angtsy.

ME1 is still my favorite in the series. For the jank and other little niggling issues, there's nothing like it at all.

 

[Gregolian]

ME1 is still my favorite in the series. For the jank and other little niggling issues, there's nothing like it at all.

Agreed. 2 gameplay wise is better but the story and the sense of exploring in 1 is better than 2.

I grew up a Star Wars geek but of the main BioWare RPGs I seem to have gravitated more to Dragon Age for some reason and I don't know why. Like, I am more pumped to go after Solas in 4 than I am to find out why Liara is digging up an N7 logo in the ME4 teaser.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

News from 12 days ago, but I just saw it.

Looking forward to hearing the reviews.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Is there still no trailer or screenshots for this? Wtf?

 

[Steve-French]

I've never played any of the Mass Effect Games. I've been tempted to give them a crack as they have been a part of EA Play forever now, but it's getting kind of tough to go back to last gen software.

 

[blaseblah]

They really should remake the ending for this. Don't mind if Shepard dies but there was zero thought put into the pick a path ending.

 

[method115]

They really should remake the ending for this. Don't mind if Shepard dies but there was zero thought put into the pick a path ending.

I never had an issue with the ending like everyone else. I thought it was fine. I'd rather they just leave it be instead of some unknown devs trying to make it better. I don't trust this team to do that.

 

[Gregolian]

I never had an issue with the ending like everyone else. I thought it was fine. I'd rather they just leave it be instead of some unknown devs trying to make it better. I don't trust this team to do that.

They're going to have to pick a canon one given the way the ME5 trailer looks like we're BACK in the Milky Way and Liara is AGAIN putting Shepherd back together.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Add more endings. Red, blue and green isn’t enough, throw in yellow, purple and orange too.

 

[blaseblah]

I never had an issue with the ending like everyone else. I thought it was fine. I'd rather they just leave it be instead of some unknown devs trying to make it better. I don't trust this team to do that.

Bioware is doing the remaster. I don't know how anyone who has been invested in the story could appreciate the ending. The game forces you to make a dumb decision based on the premise that there can never be peace between synthetics and organics, in spite of the fact that Shepard can bring peace between synthetics and organics in the same game. It's as if the people who wrote the ending didn't play the rest of the game.

On top of that the original ending didn't provide closure for any of the character arcs, didn't provide closure for whoever you chose to romance, and ended with the relays being destroyed, which based on the Mass Effect lore would doom civilization and lead to a lot of people being wiped out.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Bioware is doing the remaster. I don't know how anyone who has been invested in the story could appreciate the ending. The game forces you to make a dumb decision based on the premise that there can never be peace between synthetics and organics, in spite of the fact that Shepard can bring peace between synthetics and organics in the same game. It's as if the people who wrote the ending didn't play the rest of the game.

The Mass Effect trilogy is like having sex with a 10 who’s also an amazing lay, but then you finish in a moldy old wool sock.

 

[blaseblah]

I also hope they update the combat from the first game. The shooting is pretty bad.