Manti Te

jackietreehorn8 said:
You're right they did take that angle - that he was behind it from the beginning. More responsibly, they should have laid out the story and given more than one theory, but they felt like they had enough evidence to support their position and it's not the Deadspin way to not take a side on something.

Either way, I think they served an important role in this whole thing. God know who would have greased ESPN to write what by the time they got their story out...ND has a lot on influence in the sports world and they easily could have blackmailed ESPN to present the story the way they wanted it.
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That's fair, I don't think we have much disagreement.

I just have a problem with this incredulity people have about a guy meeting and getting into a relationship with someone online. It reeks of a generational divide.

And if you look at what Teo's real comments have been. Initially he just referred to her as a close friends and it eventually evolved into girlfriend/love of his life.

When someone dies, at a funeral there will be many people stating that they were the deceased's best friend or really closed to the departed, even if their relationship really was much more plain. That's because we grieve by magnifying the importance of the dead. So if Teo was duped then it is very believable he startred investing MORE into the relationship after believing she was dead.

People's incredulity to these sentiments show a lot of ignorance and lack of psychological insight imo.
 
ISWThunder said:
If he was gay, why wouldn't he feel the need to cover up the fact that he's never seen with a girl? Are you under the impression that all NFL players and front office guys are accepting of gay players?

\Even to this day, there are NFL players that are openly anti-gay. Several months after one of the greatest plays in Super Bowl history, David Tyree said he'd trade his Super Bowl victory to keep gay marriage illegal.

Matt Birk, center for the Ravens, was very vocal about his support of legislation in MN to ban gay marriage.

Tank Carder called someone a *** on twitter and then said that he didn't agree with being gay.

It would be naive to think that gay NFL players don't feel the need to hide their homosexuality.
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I don't think between college and draft day people would be asking him non stop "why don't you have a GF"

And he already had a cover by being religious. Just say you don't believe in premarital sex like Tebow.

What if he starts pretending to be gay so the story doesn't seem as bad?
 
PolishHeadlock said:
I don't think between college and draft day people would be asking him non stop "why don't you have a GF"

And he already had a cover by being religious. Just say you don't believe in premarital sex like Tebow.

What if he starts pretending to be gay so the story doesn't seem as bad?
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Probably not, but it would eventually grow and rumors would spread quickly if his longtime girlfriend was never around or if he never had any girlfriends. It is being reported that players knew that she was fake. Would it surprise anyone if those players questioned his sexual preference and that rumor got around?

Religious guys still date girls. Being religious doesn't cover up not having any relationships.

If he did that, then he'd be officially psychotic. At minimum, he'd have to wait until after the draft. Admitting that you are gay is fine in society but it can only hurt your draft stock.
 
UFCfightman said:
That's fair, I don't think we have much disagreement.

I just have a problem with this incredulity people have about a guy meeting and getting into a relationship with someone online. It reeks of a generational divide.

And if you look at what Teo's real comments have been. Initially he just referred to her as a close friends and it eventually evolved into girlfriend/love of his life.

When someone dies, at a funeral there will be many people stating that they were the deceased's best friend or really closed to the departed, even if their relationship really was much more plain. That's because we grieve by magnifying the importance of the dead. So if Teo was duped then it is very believable he startred investing MORE into the relationship after believing she was dead.

People's incredulity to these sentiments show a lot of ignorance and lack of psychological insight imo.
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The older generations definitely don't understand that part of this.

But the fact that he never tried to skype/facetime with her and wasn't suspicious that she could never meet him should be strange to anyone. And it doesn't help that his made up stories seemed to included meeting her in person.

It could just be that he's gullible, but that still reflects poorly on his intellect and reasoning abilities.
 
faustian said:
You don't know what this is.
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faustian said:
redundant lol
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ISWThunder said:
Probably not, but it would eventually grow and rumors would spread quickly if his longtime girlfriend was never around or if he never had any girlfriends. It is being reported that players knew that she was fake. Would it surprise anyone if those players questioned his sexual preference and that rumor got around?

Religious guys still date girls. Being religious doesn't cover up not having any relationships.

If he did that, then he'd be officially psychotic. At minimum, he'd have to wait until after the draft. Admitting that you are gay is fine in society but it can only hurt your draft stock.
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The article I read on Deaspin that said his teammates didn't think she was his GF listed him sleeping with other girls as one of the reasons they didn't think she was really his GF.
 
PolishHeadlock said:
The article I read on Deaspin that said his teammates didn't think she was his GF listed him sleeping with other girls as one of the reasons they didn't think she was really his GF.
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I didn't see that one, and that's pretty credible considering it's from an on-campus but non-football source.

It's just impossible to keep up with everything at this point. The report I read from Holtzman at ESPN didn't mention that but, like most other things in this story, he didn't name the source.
 
Bolshevik said:
now that makes sense. i mean, it'd be so much harder to just say that their relationship was over right? people in their early 20's never end relationships :rolleyes:
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I know, right?!? That's very logical. Like I mentioned a ways back - there's really no making rational or logical sense of this man's behavior.

So, the most plausible explanation for me is it was a hoax started by his friend, but he eventually got wise to it. And instead of admitting he was punked, or just going w/ the easy lie that they broke up, he stupidly opted for the big dramatic death lie to garner sympathy (and hopefully more Heisman votes).
 
How do you expect a twenty-year-old kid to keep a level head about his fake girlfriend's cancer the same day his real grandmother dies? He's just a baby.
 
Yardener said:
I know, right?!? That's very logical. Like I mentioned a ways back - there's really no making rational or logical sense of this man's behavior.

So, the most plausible explanation for me is it was a hoax started by his friend, but he eventually got wise to it. And instead of admitting he was punked, or just going w/ the easy lie that they broke up, he stupidly opted for the big dramatic death lie to garner sympathy (and hopefully more Heisman votes).
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it's much more likely that tuaisopo made up the car accient and leukemia

it would be plausible explanation for why Teo would never be able to see her, she's in a hospital can't come to visit. lol watch the movie catfish, the people doing these type of hoaxes all come up with elaborate ruse for why physical meetings can never happen.

Also Tuiasosopo was a contestant on this show called the Voice where he made up a sob story about being in a near death car accident, completely manufactured fictional car accident. Given what we know, I think it's more plausible that tuaisopo made up most of the story. Teo probably made up things like seeing her and meeting her to just make himself not look as weird.
 
Three Gun Fish said:
How do you expect a twenty-year-old kid to keep a level head about his fake girlfriend's cancer the same day his real grandmother dies? He's just a baby.
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3GF, that was funny as shit

UFCfightman said:
it's much more likely that tuaisopo made up the car accient and leukemia

it would be plausible explanation for why Teo would never be able to see her, she's in a hospital can't come to visit. lol watch the movie catfish, the people doing these type of hoaxes all come up with elaborate ruse for why physical meetings can never happen.

Also Tuiasosopo was a contestant on this show called the Voice where he made up a sob story about being in a near death car accident, completely manufactured fictional car accident. Given what we know, I think it's more plausible that tuaisopo made up most of the story. Teo probably made up things like seeing her and meeting her to just make himself not look as weird.
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I could buy that. And even though he talked about her as his GF after he supposedly found out she was fake...well, he was just perpetuating the lie out of embarrassment and not wanting to distract from the big game
 
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