Crime Mango Molester's sentencing

[irish_thug]

Why shouldn't Biden and Harris do what Trump did and say the election was stolen and try to overturn it? Worked out for Trump in the end since he wasn't held accountable and was able to win four years later. If Republicans won't concede elections when they lose why should Democrats do so going forward?

I can't be the only one praying this happens.

 

[mkess101]

"Following an investigation launched in February 2021 by Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis, a grand jury of 23 citizens handed up the indictments on August 14, 2023.[3] The case was set to be heard in the Fulton County Superior Court with judge Scott F. McAfee presiding.[4] Another judge denied requests from former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, former Department of Justice (DOJ) official Jeffrey Clark, and three other defendants to have their cases removed to federal court.[5]"

This was a political witch hunt?

lol @ lost touch.

All of America has lost touch when a traitor to your nation can evade prosecution just by running for president.

Indictments are easy to get. Doesn't mean he wasn't guilty, but the inquiries likely were spurred by politics yes.

All I can say is that if the Dems wanna throw their hands in the air and say that everyone who voted for Trump (which for the record I didn't), they're gonna get a big 'ol fa e fulla shit again in 2028 when Latino men bury them in another election. Whatever you want to say about the culture war stuff being "insignificant distraction that the right uses to drive a wedge--it quite obviously matters to minority men enough that they swung the election for Trump (or at least were a large part of it happening). If the Dems don't address that...they'll lose again. Badly.

 

[Source]

Oh I agree with that but if we're going to be taking lessons from Republicans on how to take a loss the lesson would be to not acknowledge the loss and to try to steal the election.

The dems simply could not pull off something like that. It would literally crash the party. They would have to create a cultish devotion to one person like Trump fostered inside the GOP. There is absolutely nothing Trump could do or say that would create a an exodus from him as their leader. The fact that Biden was forced out after a disastrous debate proves they couldn’t pull that off.

 

[Slapjit]

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Claims that Donald Trump is a convicted felon are entirely false and baseless, reflecting a lack of understanding about his legal status. While he has been the subject of indictments and charges, he has not been convicted of any felony charges. Calling him a "felon" is not only incorrect but demonstrates a clear disregard for the difference between allegations and proven guilt under the law.

Here are the undeniable facts:

1. Indictments vs. Convictions:
   Donald Trump has faced criminal indictments, which are formal accusations, not convictions. A conviction requires a legal trial with evidence presented, evaluated, and judged beyond reasonable doubt. That has not happened in any case involving him. To confuse these terms is to misunderstand the fundamentals of the justice system.
2. Ongoing Legal Proceedings:
   Some of the legal cases against Trump are still active. Without a final judgment, labeling him a "felon" is not just misleading—it’s premature and shows a lack of respect for due process.
3. Why People Might Be Misled:
   The sheer volume of cases, coupled with sensationalist media coverage and political rhetoric, can mislead individuals into believing falsehoods. However, emotional responses to headlines should never replace critical thinking or factual analysis.
4. Ignorance or Intentional Misrepresentation:
   Misusing the term "felon" not only spreads misinformation but also exposes a lack of basic understanding of legal processes. It is either an act of ignorance or a deliberate attempt to mislead others for political gain. Neither reflects well on the individual perpetuating such claims.
5. The Importance of Truth and Precision:
   In any society that values the rule of law, it is critical to differentiate between accusations and proven guilt. Equating allegations with convictions undermines the integrity of legal discourse and promotes a culture of uninformed opinion.

To perpetuate this misinformation is to erode trust in factual discourse and due process. Always rely on verified information and approach such topics with the intellectual rigor they deserve. Spreading baseless claims only damages credibility and fuels unnecessary division.



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[mkess101]

Why shouldn't Biden and Harris do what Trump did and say the election was stolen and try to overturn it? Worked out for Trump in the end since he wasn't held accountable and was able to win four years later. If Republicans won't concede elections when they lose why should Democrats do so going forward?

Do you think they believe that will work for their base? Biden may not even know where he is at this point so let's leave him out of it. Regardless, my hunch is that the Dems know that would be a useless tactic for them. Harris isn't now nor will ever be a viable candidate. Attempting to make the claim that she actually won would resonate as moronic even amongst their base. Trump supporters have blinders on--they're behind him come hell or high water so his tactic (although illegal and abhorrent) made sense from an effectiveness standpoint. Harris doesn't now nor ever had real support. Pretending she won would set the Dems back, not replicate what Trump did.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Indictments are easy to get. Doesn't mean he wasn't guilty, but the inquiries likely were spurred by politics yes.

What makes you say that? Isn't it possible Trump is a criminal and the inquiries were justified? The guy tried to steal an election in broad daylight and what, the Feds are supposed to ignore that?

 

[Islam Imamate]

Do you think they believe that will work for their base? Biden may not even know where he is at this point so let's leave him out of it. Regardless, my hunch is that the Dems know that would be a useless tactic for them. Harris isn't now nor will ever be a viable candidate. Attempting to make the claim that she actually won would resonate as moronic even amongst their base. Trump supporters have blinders on--they're behind him come hell or high water so his tactic (although illegal and abhorrent) made sense from an effectiveness standpoint. Harris doesn't now nor ever had real support. Pretending she won would set the Dems back, not replicate what Trump did.

Yes exactly, because Trump and his movement are uniquely illiberal and antithetical to democracy and its institutions and norms. Hence Trump can commit crimes in broad daylight and his supporters won't hold him to account and people like you will come to his defense but if Dems lose an elections suddenly they have to capitulate as if the other side plays by the same rules.

 

[mkess101]

What makes you say that? Isn't it possible Trump is a criminal and the inquiries were justified? The guy tried to steal an election in broad daylight and what, the Feds are supposed to ignore that?

Without going through the mountain of stuff that's filled this forum for years--my view is that Trump pulled shady and likely illegal shit but that once the transfer of power had already happened, the fervor in which he was still hunted undoubtedly had some political motivation. To be clear--he brought it on himself plenty. He's a "with me or against me" persona. So he made enemies and when they smelled blood, they went for it. Didn't work, but they tried.

 

[mkess101]

Yes exactly, because Trump and his movement are uniquely illiberal and antithetical to democracy and its institutions and norms. Hence Trump can commit crimes in broad daylight and his supporters won't hold him to account and people like you will come to his defense but if Dems lose an elections suddenly they have to capitulate as if the other side plays by the same rules.

"Come to his defense"? I'm talking in practical terms. Are you not able to distinguish between the reality of a situation and the hypothetical you created regarding the Dems trying the same tactics?
I was exceedingly vocal about how big a deal Jan 6th was. How it undermined democracy. How it's not how we should operate. I'm mildly surprised that Trump was able to make this comeback, even given the loyalty of his base. Part of my reason for that surprise is that I didn't think the Dems could screw up so badly in handling their own shit.

Let's be clear here. Trump TRIED to overturn a fair election. TRIED. And he FAILED. There WAS a transfer of power. Joe Biden IS about to finish his term. Trump was not able to steal anything. The fact that 4 years later he's able to come in and win so convincingly shouldn't have you railing against his base. They didn't change. It should have you wondering exactly how terrible the Dems had to F up in order to see such an utter reversal and lose the swing vote so badly.

 

[The XL]

Imagine cheering on a weaponized justice system. All of these cases were just an attempt to prevent Trump from being elected.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Without going through the mountain of stuff that's filled this forum for years--my view is that Trump pulled shady and likely illegal shit but that once the transfer of power had already happened, the fervor in which he was still hunted undoubtedly had some political motivation. To be clear--he brought it on himself plenty. He's a "with me or against me" persona. So he made enemies and when they smelled blood, they went for it. Didn't work, but they tried.

Should Trump have been allowed to try to steal the election with no consequences just because his supporters will undoubtedly perceive it as political? Is trying to hold a president to account for crimes he committed in office necessarily political because it helps the other party? Was there any way the authorities could've tried to hold Trump accountable here that you would not see as political?

 

[The XL]

Total nonsense. There’s effectively nothing that can be done on the legal front while he is POTUS, this has been known and discussed for ages.
These investigations were ongoing before Trump even announced he was running again, and I personally think he only ran again because he needed to win to shield himself from that prosecution. They weren’t an attempt to “derail” anything, they are already happening. This idea is just silly right wing conspiracy mongering.

This post of mine is from August 2023, well over a year ago:


Any federal case was always going to be DOA if he won. I don’t think it’s realistic for a state case to be able to proceed either.

That doesn’t change the fact that there is a mountain of evidence that Trump committed unconscionable crimes against the American people, and future generations will likely wonder why Americans were so dumb as to not hold him accountable.

Almost every President over the last century was a war criminal. I hope future generations are smart enough to not care about him paying off a porn star or whatever the fuck. I hope they're also smart enough to see that all of this nonsense was very obviously motivated by politics.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Let's be clear here. Trump TRIED to overturn a fair election. TRIED. And he FAILED. There WAS a transfer of power. Joe Biden IS about to finish his term. Trump was not able to steal anything.

So because he attempted to steal the election but failed he shouldn't be held to account for it?

 

[Goatenstein]

Nah. It was all just an attempt to derail his election. Now that hes elected they aren't really going to devote any more time to all this nonsense.

I hope you aren't mad if any of your loved ones are sexually assaulted, you'd be a huge hypocrite.

 

[mkess101]

So because he attempted to steal the election but failed he shouldn't be held to account for it?

I don't know enough details to accurately say how far they should've gone to prosecute him after the fact TBH. I don't think anyone not involved does.

I'm speaking in the here and now. Do you think obsessing about what's happened is going to help the Dems? Or would focusing on how to win back the middle perhaps be a more worthwhile use of their resources?

 

[Islam Imamate]

I don't know enough details to accurately say how far they should've gone to prosecute him after the fact TBH.

So you don't even know about the case but you're sure its politically motivated?

I don't think anyone not involved does.

Speak for yourself.

There's recorded phone calls and video of co-conspirators as well the man's own words in public speeches including the one the day of Jan 6th. Just because you cover your eyes and see no evil doesn't mean its not there.

I'm speaking in the here and now. Do you think obsessing about what's happened is going to help the Dems? Or would focusing on how to win back the middle perhaps be a more worthwhile use of their resources?

Trump himself is still talking about Jan 6th and even ran on pardoning the Jan 6th rioters as well as retaliating against those who served on the Jan 6th committee. Obviously its still relevant.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

"Come to his defense"? I'm talking in practical terms. Are you not able to distinguish between the reality of a situation and the hypothetical you created regarding the Dems trying the same tactics?
I was exceedingly vocal about how big a deal Jan 6th was. How it undermined democracy. How it's not how we should operate. I'm mildly surprised that Trump was able to make this comeback, even given the loyalty of his base. Part of my reason for that surprise is that I didn't think the Dems could screw up so badly in handling their own shit.

Let's be clear here. Trump TRIED to overturn a fair election. TRIED. And he FAILED. There WAS a transfer of power. Joe Biden IS about to finish his term. Trump was not able to steal anything. The fact that 4 years later he's able to come in and win so convincingly shouldn't have you railing against his base. They didn't change. It should have you wondering exactly how terrible the Dems had to F up in order to see such an utter reversal and lose the swing vote so badly.

It's both. Democrats largely want to focus on the severely degraded moral fabric of the Republican party and Trump as a cult leader, Republicans seem to only want to point out the Democrats utter failure.

They're both true.

 

[mkess101]

It's both. Democrats largely want to focus on the severely degraded moral fabric of the Republican party and Trump as a cult leader, Republicans seem to only want to point out the Democrats utter failure.

They're both true.

Sure, but the thing is to take a step back and view it from a "winning vs losing" strategy standpoint. Trump has 4 years and the cult leader stuff is gone. Are Dems gonna what then...try the same thing with Vance or whoever and say "Here's the acolyte of the cult leader trying to become the new leader!! We must stop him!!" Do they think thats a viable tactic?
The Republicans really don't have ideas of their own that resonate but what they do have right now is the belief from the swing voters that they're the more normal, rational ones that reject the wacky culture stuff that plenty of Dems embrace. And if the Dems don't address that, it has staying power unlike the "stop Trump at all costs" rhetoric that's now over since he can't run again.

 

[A Very Serious Cat]

Is "mango molester" an example of the famous British wit?

 

[Islam Imamate]

Is "mango molester" an example of the famous British wit?

I hate Trump but G-d damn are some of these nicknames bad.