Make a case for your faith/belief/worldview in 100 words or less

[quietwalker]

It is rather difficult to believe that some guy from Mexico created the entire universe.

You ever been there though? They make shit outta shit like nobody's business.

 

[weich]

You ever been there though? They make shit outta shit like nobody's business.

Can they make a deck with it?

 

[Byron Pechorin]

Have you ever read the contemporary literature on the topic? Obviously not, or you would not scoff at the facts. Do your homework before showing your ignorance of the issues.

I know more than you. So does everyone else in this thread.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

I know more than you. So does everyone else in this thread.

Truth!

 

[A13KS]

I believe we're a collection of spirits or energies from the past. When people die, parts of themselves are "recycled" into new beings. Therefore we're all one, but each new being is made up of spirits past and their own present energy. That is all I can really say right now.

 

[Faith Fighter**]

I know more than you. So does everyone else in this thread.

Well, this statement sounds like it's from a 7th-grader; not very impressive, thus far.

 

[Faith Fighter**]

Could you point one or two out to me please? Contemporary literatures that is.

Any works by Drs. Gary Habermas, William Lane Craig, Stephen T. Davis, Darrell Bock, Ben Witherington, Michael Licona, Norman Geisler, Craig Evans, Scot McKnight, Paul Copan, and dozens of others.

I can cite specific works, if you like.

 

[Faith Fighter**]

I believe we're a collection of spirits or energies from the past. When people die, parts of themselves are "recycled" into new beings. Therefore we're all one, but each new being is made up of spirits past and their own present energy. That is all I can really say right now.

Jesus Christ's teaching explicitly contradicted your view here, thus your view is false.

You might contend that Christ's teachings were incorrect, but if so, which part of them was?

 

[Terror Zone]

Acceptance or denial,
either way you're fucked in the end.
We all end up in the ground,
you won't be saved by your imaginary friend.

Spoiler

 

[Faith Fighter**]

Everything you see exists together in a delicate balance. You need to understand that balance, and respect all the creatures, from the crawling ant, to the leaping antelope. When we die, our bodies become the grass, and the antelope eat the grass. And so we are all connnected in the great Circle of Life.

This is false in light of Christ's teachings on the afterlife and His own resurrection from the dead.

 

[Faith Fighter**]

Acceptance or denial,
either way you're fucked in the end.
We all end up in the ground,
you won't be saved by your imaginary friend.

Spoiler

I gave an argument that the Christian God is not imaginary. The burden is on you to show otherwise.

 

[Faith Fighter**]

As for my case:

Considering the excessive amount of needless suffering evident on this world, it is logically impossible for an all-powerful and all-loving force to exist, as such a "god" would have removed at least the suffering of innocent children. It cannot be argued that all the horrors of the world are caused by the actions of men alone, as an omniscient force would have foreseen those actions and being all-powerful could have changed things for the better - even without breaking the "free will" of anyone.

Thus, if a "god" of any sort exists, it can only be a force of evil that promotes human suffering instead of love. Whether or not such a "god" exists, it absolutely does not deserve our appreciation, obedience or worship.

God and evil are not logically incompatible. It's logically possible that God has reasons for allowing evil.

 

[Yompton]

Evolution...of the universe, life, and intelligence. This is fact, not a belief. As to how it all went down, we may never know for sure...that's circumstance, not a fallacy.

All magic in religions is make believe. All prophecies in religion are make believe. Jesus is make believe, sorry TS, he's not real, never was, and no matter how hard you reach he never will be.

I do believe the bible has some amazing philosophy in spite of the fact people are still stupid enough to believe its stories as real today. I do believe that believing religious scripture as non fiction is a demonstration of stupidity.

I don't know if a God exists. My definition of a likely God is a conscious sentient presence capable of manipulating the universe. Nothing more.

 

[Faith Fighter**]

This is all the force you all can muster against my arguments? As has been well-observed, the secularist stance is much adopted and celebrated in the west today, but not because it has any intellectual force.

 

[Faith Fighter**]

Evolution...of the universe, life, and intelligence. This is fact, not a belief. As to how it all went down, we may never know for sure...that's circumstance, not a fallacy.

All magic in religions is make believe. All prophecies in religion are make believe. Jesus is make believe, sorry TS, he's not real, never was, and no matter how hard you reach he never will be.

I do believe the bible has some amazing philosophy in spite of the fact people are still stupid enough to believe its stories as real today. I do believe that believing religious scripture as non fiction is a demonstration of stupidity.

I don't know if a God exists. My definition of a likely God is a conscious sentient presence capable of manipulating the universe. Nothing more.

These are mere ramblings without supporting evidence; easily dismissed.

 

[Yompton]

These are mere ramblings without supporting evidence; easily dismissed.

Everything we have ever observed is evidence...it's called science. Sorry, forgot to make my case. All of science!

 

[Faith Fighter**]

Everything we have ever observed is evidence...it's called science.

I think the science points to theism. For example, today's cosmologists virtually unanimously confess that the universe began to exist from nothing. But that cannot occur without a personal cause, as I noted in the opening thread.

 

[Yompton]

I think the science points to theism. For example, today's cosmologists virtually unanimously confess that the universe began to exist from nothing. But that cannot occur without a personal cause, as I noted in the opening thread.

I already answered this

 

[Terror Zone]

I gave an argument that the Christian God is not imaginary. The burden is on you to show otherwise.

No, 100% of the onus is on you. I'm not the one saying something nonsensical and unfounded, you are. Your weak "argument" didn't shift the burden elsewhere, it didn't do anything actually. You really didn't make a case at all, not one that anyone should take seriously anyway.

 

[ralphc1]

Everything that begins to exist has a cause. Specialists agree that the universe began to exist. Therefore, the universe apparently has a cause.

But the cause of the universe must exist without space and time and is thereby immaterial. But the only immaterial causes we know of are minds. The cause is thereby a timeless, spaceless, mind with unparalleled power.

Secondly, Jesus plausibly rose from the dead, as indicated by His physical appearances after His crucifixion. Even skeptical scholars concede such appearances and typically admit of no good naturalistic explanation.

Thus, we have a Creator who manifested Himself in Jesus.

Who created the creator, or in your reasoning who or what caused the timeless, spaceless, mind with unparalleled power that you call the creator to exist?

Why does everything that begins to exist have a cause? With that reasoning, at some point, something had to start the causality chain and by definition couldn't have been caused which negates the premise.