Social Looks like queueing is on the way out.

"Queueing" is such a posh, i.e. cunty, i.e. British, word. Everywhere else it's called "waiting/getting in line".
Lol this is what I was going to say.

I don't think I had even heard the term until I was overseas. It threw me off "are you in the queue?" It took a second, but realized I was being asked if I waiting in line.
 
Just like here in the states it's "for here or to go" when ordering food or coffee. In England it's "stay or take away." That took some getting used to.
 
Just like here in the states it's "for here or to go" when ordering food or coffee. In England it's "stay or take away." That took some getting used to.
Those cunts call cigarettes "f*gs"...
Bloody weirdos.
 
Those kind of rubbish , bad behaviour are often sign of a slow downfall of western civilization. Top tier countries starting to look a lot like the third world
 
Blah-blah-blah.

Answer my question: how many of those "germans on the bus" were actually german?
Let me provide guidance bratan. You both are right. Generally, Germans will not insert themselves in front of you in the line and are very observant of rules, to obsessive extents.

Germans are genetically unable to improvise under pressure in a chaotic situation because they need rules and guidelines.

What @fingercuffs describes is a chaotic situation because everyone has been waiting in line, then bus arrives but it‘s unclear where the line starts. This is where Germans typically stop computing and go full retard panic mode. You see it all the time here it‘s hillarious.
 
Those kind of rubbish , bad behaviour are often sign of a slow downfall of western civilization. Top tier countries starting to look a lot like the third world
You will notice that the most polite societies tend to be the ones with a lot of social cohesion and shared values. For example, Scandinavia is extremely polite because it‘s a cohesive society. France has a lot of ambient aggressivity because it has a history of class warfare. In Scandinavia the reflex is to contribute to the system. In France the reflex is to hustle the system. There are a thousand examples like this.

Québec BTW was traditionally an extremely cohesive society. Of course it changed since the 80‘s with all the privatisations and globalisation. Yes, immigration plays a role too, but it‘s not the only factor.
 
Let me provide guidance bratan. You both are right. Generally, Germans will not insert themselves in front of you in the line and are very observant of rules, to obsessive extents.

Germans are genetically unable to improvise under pressure in a chaotic situation because they need rules and guidelines.

What @fingercuffs describes is a chaotic situation because everyone has been waiting in line, then bus arrives but it‘s unclear where the line starts. This is where Germans typically stop computing and go full retard panic mode. You see it all the time here it‘s hillarious.
I heard a story about Germans and chaotic/unexpected situations.

So, on some street in some German town the traffic light was broken. It was blinking, yet it didn't switch back and forth. And a bunch of pedestrians gathered waiting for the signal to cross over. Everybody waited for minutes, 5-10-15, idk., until some eastern euro dude came and simply crossed the street. The whole crowd looked at him for like 5 seconds and then followed him.

He looked at them and said: "Y'all mfers NEED a führer..."
 
Let me provide guidance bratan. You both are right. Generally, Germans will not insert themselves in front of you in the line and are very observant of rules, to obsessive extents.

Germans are genetically unable to improvise under pressure in a chaotic situation because they need rules and guidelines.

What @fingercuffs describes is a chaotic situation because everyone has been waiting in line, then bus arrives but it‘s unclear where the line starts. This is where Germans typically stop computing and go full retard panic mode. You see it all the time here it‘s hillarious.
Cheers, pal
 
today, while out on my thrilling trip to the grocery store, i experienced madness!!!

i think the old people cheque came out today, because the grocery store was swarming with confused, slow walking, and chatty gatherings of old people. holy fuck, navigating that was a horror. but then i get in line. three cash registers open and lineups going down the aisles. i had not one, but two, men in about their thirties try to cut in front of me. i was like nuh uh hunny!!! i dont think so . . .

<BakerNo>

didn't think people cutting in line was actually a problem, a thing, wtf is happening!!!

<JerryWWF>
 
Just like here in the states it's "for here or to go" when ordering food or coffee. In England it's "stay or take away." That took some getting used to.
This explains why Thais use "take away" I guess. When I first lived there I always said "to go" and no one ever understood it. It's alllll coming together now lol.
 
As society degenerates I've started noticing in the last couple of years that people are violating queues more and more in Anglo countries. Queueing has been a shibboleth distinguishing high tier from medium and low tier countries. Now I see people deliberately violating queues pretty often. And I know what you're thinking, but most of the time it's British people, or if not a German or something.

It's rare for anyone except me to challenge the violators, even after I've spoken up first. Including the staff. That's NPCs for you.

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In high tier countries traditionally public places are safe and pleasant. Even inviting. Clean, tidy, safe, friendly and polite people, everything is in order, people follow the rules, signage is clear and its grammar and punctuation are correct etc. As society deteriorates this changes. Public spaces become threatening, dirty, disorderly, chaotic and unpleasant. You have to be prepared for conflict, and you had better be strong. This is what's happening. As I go and do errands I encounter a constant stream of minor aggressions and transgressions.

People crowding around the bus or train doors, hindering you getting out
People pushing on before people have got off
Queue jumping
Rudeness and lying from shop/counter staff
Incorrect punctuation and grammar and incomplete/incorrect information on notices
Littering
Unprovoked verbal aggression against strangers
Shoplifting
Vandalism
People just being loud, obnoxious and intrusive in general
Playing audio on your phone in a public place
Shining lights unnecessarily on paths when it's dark
Homeless/mentally ill/aggressive beggars etc. sitting drinking, smoking and blasting music on loud portable loudspeakers in the bus station 24/7
Government officials/businesses not responding to your letter/email/voicemail etc.
Businesses giving you four, or even eight hour slots for when the person will come

and so on

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I remember things being better.


Queuing is a dying trait amongst younger Australians, research commissioned by TripAdvisor and backed by a British behavioural psychologist and queuing expert suggests.

While almost three quarters of the nation (69%) claim they’ve never queue jumped, this figure is in sharp decline amongst Australia’s youth as a battle of the generations plays out in queues across the country. Millennials (25-34 y/os) are more than twice as likely to push in front than Baby Boomers (42% Millennials vs 17% Boomers)**. On the flip side, more than two thirds (75%) of Baby Boomers consider queue cutting the height of bad manners, compared to under half (38%) of Millennials.


One survey in Britain found Generation Z (18-24 year-olds) are seven times more likely to cut in line than baby boomers. Similarly, Gen Z seemed pretty unfazed by queue jumpers, with just 28% thinking it was bad (not sure if they’d feel the same if they were standing in line for the latest pair of Nike Air Jordans?). Baby Boomers, on the other hand, well 66% of them say queue jumping is bad behaviour.

If current trends continue there's going to be a sort of Reversion of the Castes and Second World, then high end Third World countries are going to be the safe, clean and orderly ones while Western countries become the ****holes.

Travelling and living in a number of countries over the last 7 years I've noticed it also.

Many poor countries are going through industrial revolutions with modern tech, they're coming up quick.
Many countries that have already had their revolution 50-200 years ago and resting on their laurels and falling behind.

People are mixing more internationally and you can find almost any culture anywhere if you look a little.

I don't think it's about country so much, I think it's about cities, suburbs and the countryside.
Any city in almost any country is worse than it was 20 years ago with regards to general manners.
 
I realized Queuing is something I've taken for granted. Most countries in the world are not good at it to differing degrees.
Scandinavians, Germans, Brits, Americans, Canadians, are at the top.
French, Russians, Thais, Japanese, Latin Americans not as good.
Arabs, Indians, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese are at the bottom.
In some cultures it seems like they don't have a concept for it and genuinely don't understand why you don't like it if they cut in front of you. Then a bigger problem is that they have this same lack of comprehension when they're driving giant hunks of metal.
This explains why Thais use "take away" I guess. When I first lived there I always said "to go" and no one ever understood it. It's alllll coming together now lol.
This is why I had change the way I talk a bit when traveling. People can't understand my American english sometimes.
 
I did notice British and German though. When we lived in Germany my very British mum couldn't believe the chaos that commenced when a bus came at a bus stop, it was everyone for themselves. No form an orderly queue whatsoever.
having lived in Asia and witnessed the expat community (mostly Danes, Germans, Norwegians)bad mouth the Asians and their 'lack' of civility in public settings, i.e. eating, talking on cells, it always made me laugh traveling with euros at airports who seemed to leave all civility behind when it came to queueing . pushing to the front not caring and then acting like they weren't aware when they were called out on it.
 
having lived in Asia and witnessed the expat community (mostly Danes, Germans, Norwegians)bad mouth the Asians and their 'lack' of civility in public settings, i.e. eating, talking on cells, it always made me laugh traveling with euros at airports who seemed to leave all civility behind when it came to queueing . pushing to the front not caring and then acting like they weren't aware when they were called out on it.
All manner of order goes out the window whichever airport you're at, my only take on Asians being more polite is because mayhaps in general they're smaller than us and more likely to get crushed in the ensuing melee.

Thing that cracks me up, as soon as the seatbelt signs go off everyone stands up. You've got some 6ft 7 window seat guy giving me evils that I won't stand up in the aisle seat when neither of us are seeing the doors open for a good 12 minutes craning his neck under the overhead cabins.
 
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