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Movies LOGAN v.2 (Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen LOGAN, how would you rate it?


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Yeah, that's a terrible list.

Personally, Spiderman II held my number one spot for a long time, probably still does.
Yeah, here's my list of the 19 Superhero Comic Book movies that have been made that I felt were a class above:

DC
  • Batman (1989)
  • Batman Begins
  • The Dark Knight

  • Watchmen

  • Superman (1978)

Marvel
  • X-Men 2
  • X-Men: First Class
  • X-Men: Days of Future Past
  • Deadpool
  • Logan

  • Spider-Man 2

  • The Avengers
  • Guardians of the Galaxy
  • Captain America: Winter Soldier
  • Captain America: Civil War
  • Iron Man

  • The Hulk (2003)*

Dark Horse
  • Hellboy 2: The Golden Army

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  • Kick-Ass


*my only controversial pick, really, but IMO this is the most misunderstood and underappreciated movie made in the genre (horrible 5.7 on IMDb), and contains my favorite single moment in all of comic book film history. Yes, the ending definitely sucked. I forgive that.


Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the original Iron Man or Days of Future Past, and I wouldn't include them on a more personal list, but I acknowledge I belong to a very slim minority in both these cases, so I feel like they belong here, and I can make peace with them. I can see there's quite a bit going on in the latter, but I've never figured out what anybody thought was extraordinary about Iron Man apart from Robert Downey's performance. Overall the movie was really well told, but I found it kind of trite and shallow. Still, I enjoyed the hell out of it, so I can't really hate too much. Winter Soldier is definitely on the bubble, for me, but man, it deserves to be here for the action sequences alone. Freaking spectacular. Best we've seen yet, hands down.

I was tempted to include Batman Returns. I'm not at all interested in pleas for The Dark Knight Returns, and I don't care that it scores an 8.5 on IMDb. No clemency for this one. Veto power engaged. Save your breath Bullitt. That film was awful. I won't even add it to make it a clean 20.

Not sure if I'm forgetting anything else or missing anything. The Batman and X-Man universes have unquestionably been the most fruitful in the genre that has sort of been to my generation what the Western was to my grandparents.
 
Logan is certainly up there alongside The Avengers in Sherdog rating.

But Mad Max: Fury Road is still king.

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Edit: Suck it, Luke.

you sneaky bugger.

Despite our similar tastes in entertainment, I know you have an affinity towards big monster movies, whereas I have a huge distaste for them. Though Fury Road I think is the only time you and I have disagreed on a movie outside of the Monster genre. I may have to watch it again in the comfort of my living room and a few drinks in me. All I know was I sat through the movie looking at my wife hoping she hated it as much as I did so we could get up and leave.
 
Yeah, here's my list of the 19 Superhero Comic Book movies that have been made that I felt were a class above:

DC
  • Batman (1989)
  • Batman Begins
  • The Dark Knight

  • Watchmen

  • Superman (1978)

Marvel
  • X-Men 2
  • X-Men: First Class
  • X-Men: Days of Future Past
  • Deadpool
  • Logan

  • Spider-Man 2

  • The Avengers

  • Guardians of the Galaxy

  • Captain America: Winter Soldier
  • Captain America: Civil War

  • Iron Man

  • The Hulk (2003)*

Dark Horse
  • Hellboy 2: The Golden Army

Icon
  • Kick-Ass


*my only controversial pick, really, but IMO this is the most misunderstood and underappreciated movie made in the genre (horrible 5.7 on IMDb), and contains my favorite single moment in all of comic book film history. Yes, the ending definitely sucked. I forgive that.


Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the original Iron Man or Days of Future Past, and I wouldn't include them on a more personal list, but I acknowledge I belong to a very slim minority in both these cases, so I feel like they belong here, and I can make peace with them. I can see there's quite a bit going on in the latter, but I've never figured out what anybody thought was extraordinary about Iron Man apart from Robert Downey's performance. Overall the movie was really well told, but I found it kind of trite and shallow. Still, I enjoyed the hell out of it, so I can't really hate too much. Winter Soldier is definitely on the bubble, for me, but man, it deserves to be here for the action sequences alone. Freaking spectacular. Best we've seen yet, hands down.

I was tempted to include Batman Returns. I'm not at all interested in pleas for The Dark Knight Returns, and I don't care that it scores an 8.5 on IMDb. No clemency for this one. Veto power engaged. Save your breath Bullitt. That film was awful. I won't even add it to make it a clean 20.

Not sure if I'm forgetting anything else or missing anything. The Batman and X-Man universes have unquestionably been the most fruitful in the genre that has sort of been to my generation what the Western was to my grandparents.

ever tried ranking them?

I have a list of about 110 movies thus far (have not added logan but top 10 for sure) - these are movies that were originally comic books made into live adaptations.
 
My unpopular opinion is that I thought it was pretty shitty/boring. First 20 mins were great, as soon as the girl was introduced it went downhill.

- way too long
- boring story
- cheesy as fuck
- dont care about the kids at all in any way
- many more...
 
ever tried ranking them?

I have a list of about 110 movies thus far (have not added logan but top 10 for sure) - these are movies that were originally comic books made into live adaptations.
Not super recently. I have in the past, but I've also gone through old posts, and I'm not as consistent as usual, but...
  • The Dark Knight
  • Spider-Man 2
  • X-Men: First Class
Always come at the top. Logan definitely joins them.

Also, I'm specifically talking about superhoer movies, here, not the comic stuff that could include stuff like Ghost World or American Splendor. I didn't even include the original Blade because I consider vampire lore to be part of a supernatural fictional tradition, not part of the superhero genre.
 
I feel The Dark Knight doesn't hold up that well. If you take out Ledgers Joker, the rest of the movie was kinda 'meh. My #1 spott goes to X-Men:DOFP. Almost perfect film.
 
Thanks.

Those autonomous trucks were scary and menacing. The trucks were a few of the subtle visual hints that this is set in the near future.

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I'm hopeful they will be much, much safer in the real world.
 
I feel The Dark Knight doesn't hold up that well. If you take out Ledgers Joker, the rest of the movie was kinda 'meh. My #1 spott goes to X-Men:DOFP. Almost perfect film.

I hated every second of The Dark Knight that wasn't Ledger.

It's not in my top twenty super hero movies.
 
Great movie, they really nailed it. Hugh Jackman's Wolverine was retired on a high note. Easily one of my favorite comic book movies. I think it was better than any X-Men movie made thus far.
 
Loved the movie. It felt right and was a great send off for Hugh Jackman, love him or hate him in the role.
9/10 for me.

I know they don't have the rights but as a fan boy I wish they could have snuck blind hawkeye in, even in a passing reference.
 
There were only 3 things I could nitpick about the film.

1-X-24 being a young Logan, would have liked him to be a new mutant.
2-Didnt like the setting of the final battle, I always feel scenes filmed in the woods look cheap.
3-Probably would have liked to see glimpses or flashback to when Professor X killed the other mutants, kinda like that scene from Old man Logan but with Xavier going Tetsuoooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!.

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I feel The Dark Knight doesn't hold up that well. If you take out Ledgers Joker, the rest of the movie was kinda 'meh. My #1 spott goes to X-Men:DOFP. Almost perfect film.

I feel most comic book movie villains have been very uninteristing (especially in MCU).

The Joker and Bane (for the most part) were pretty cool, one of the reason I like those 2 movies.
 
To folks suggesting Sabretooth would have been better than X-24: I don't think Sabretooth was iconic enough in the movies to warrant that showdown. If he was cast correctly in the first X-men movie, enough to be cast in X-Men Origins *wretch then it could have been an AMAZING reveal, but I don't think it would work as well as you may think. Even tho Schreiber was cool at playing Sabretooth, it wasn't that good.

For the same reason, I don't think a guy like Cyber would have worked, either. It would have required too much exposition to make sense to the casual viewer and X-24 made sense withing the context of the story AND was also symbolic.

For the record; I was one of those guys who kind of shrugged when x-24 was revealed, but I like it more now.
 
I can't see how she could defeat the bad guys with just claws , because wouldn't any person with sharp claws be able to do very similar stuff then? Wolverine is soo bad ass because his whole body is reinforced with Adamantium and he can withstand severe injury.

No its the healing factor, without it his skeleton would not do much as he would still be afected by internal organ injurys and bleeding.

She seemed to be faster and more agile than Logan and also has the senses playing in her favor.
 
To folks suggesting Sabretooth would have been better than X-24: I don't think Sabretooth was iconic enough in the movies to warrant that showdown. If he was cast correctly in the first X-men movie, enough to be cast in X-Men Origins *wretch then it could have been an AMAZING reveal, but I don't think it would work as well as you may think. Even tho Schreiber was cool at playing Sabretooth, it wasn't that good.

For the same reason, I don't think a guy like Cyber would have worked, either. It would have required too much exposition to make sense to the casual viewer and X-24 made sense withing the context of the story AND was also symbolic.

For the record; I was one of those guys who kind of shrugged when x-24 was revealed, but I like it more now.

Maybe using more family members?



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No its the healing factor, without it his skeleton would not do much as he would still be afected by internal organ injurys and bleeding.

She seemed to be faster and more agile than Logan and also has the senses playing in her favor.
She also seemed trained. One of the major aspects of Wolverine that they never captured was his fighting abilities. He's doesn't just spam overhand claw strikes; dude is an sick as martial artist.
She was basically a weaker, smaller version of what Wolverine should have been. X-23 is awesome.
 
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