Lightest weight class that could beat a legit HW

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Fighting heavyweight as a lower weight is totally different even if you have power it doesn't always translate. I had a buddy who boxed professionally around 160 lbs, little Mexican dude with sick power, like I was terrified to spar with him and I'm 6'4 and 240. But he told me when he sparred against heavyweights that we're also pros he could hurt them but he had to be careful since they are so heavy his power shots, especially to the body would end up wrecking his elbow and shoulder and he actually got some injuries from sparring with hw's because of that.
 
Wrestling / fight IQ / patience.
Woodley is nowhere near as dangerous as Rumble. On your three points - he has better fight IQ and gameplanning sure, but I disagree about wrestling. Rumble had great MMA wrestling as a light heavyweight, I don't think Tyron's great TDD would translate up in size, he's more or less reached the limits of his frame. Do you think Tyron could stuff and maul Bader like Rumble did? Or that someone like Rory could hit an opportunistic takedown on Rumble like he did Tyron?

Rumble is much bigger, longer and more powerful. Woodley wouldn't be able to stand with him or take him down, and neutralising Rumble is much more difficult than Woodley (in absolute terms).
 
What makes Woodley more formidable than Rumble? LHW Rumble was so much more dangerous than Tyron in virtually every respect.
Speed kills
Woodley is a lot faster, way more technical and more explosive.
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Woodley is nowhere near as dangerous as Rumble. On your three points - he has better fight IQ and gameplanning sure, but I disagree about wrestling. Rumble had great MMA wrestling as a light heavyweight, I don't think Tyron's great TDD would translate up in size, he's more or less reached the limits of his frame. Do you think Tyron could stuff and maul Bader like Rumble did? Or that someone like Rory could hit an opportunistic takedown on Rumble like he did Tyron?

Rumble is much bigger, longer and more powerful. Woodley wouldn't be able to stand with him or take him down, and neutralising Rumble is much more difficult than Woodley (in absolute terms).
My point was also a bit about how Rumble seemed to crumble once it hit the ground. I think Woodley has a stronger mindset when it comes to the ground game. That said, Rumble is a scary dude for sure, and much much bigger, so I do see your point.
 
Some welterweights cut from around 200lbs. Still, insane discussion. Can you imagine them getting hit flush by Ngannou for example? They would be lucky to survive without suffering serious brain trauma.
 
At the very high level.....a lucky MW.

A LHW can do it.

At the low level, it can happen, but it's BS.
 
What makes Woodley more formidable than Rumble? LHW Rumble was so much more dangerous than Tyron in virtually every respect.
Lmao.

Woodley gonna out wrestle DC.


Man that's probably the worst thing I've ever heard.
 
Speed kills
Woodley is a lot faster, way more technical and more explosive.
Woodley doesn't hit anything like Rumble, not in the same ballpark, and I think you're greatly overblowing the speed difference. Rumble is extremely fast and explosive, and his striking is rangier and a lot more unpredictable than Woodley, who relies predominantly on one weapon and a great understanding of timing and range. Woodley wouldn't be able to stand with Rumble and he wouldn't have any chance to score takedowns.
 
Top 5 - Cormier, Miocic, Ngannou, Lewis, Blaydes

Woodley wouldn't stand a chance, they'd murder him in round 1. Not even Whittaker. Maybe Romero or Rockhold
 
maia has outgrappled heavyweights in bjj. if he managed to latch on one of these guys, he'd probably get them down and they gas very quickly.

psshhh, he gases out against LWs. BJJ tourneys are for people that can't fight starting in non fighting positions. In a cage they won't play patty cake and caress each others hair before laying between legs
 
More people in other weight classes could beat top 10 heavyweights than you might think.

Winning more than 1 or 2 out of 10 is a different story though.
 
Top 5 HW's in UFC are DC,Stipe,Francis,Lewis and Curtis Blaydes.
Lewis is the most beatable. I can't see lw's taking him out but as others said Maia,Woodley for ww etc I can see taking him out(not an absolute victory but they'll each have to work hard for it) and a lot of MW's/ LHW can take him out or 50/50 at the very least.
Even a fringe guy like Antonio Carlos Junior aka Shoe Face has a decent shot in subbing him not realistically I think Lewis knocks him out but Derrick is the guy who has the most shot in losing to lower weight classes.
 
Lol, ppl are seriously thinking Woodley could beat DC out of all ppl?! Damn, stupidity really knows no end...
 
You said beat a "legit" HW and then you posted gif's of freak shows Butterbean and Hong Man Choi.

But to beat a LEGIT, top 15 HW, I will say MW, preferably someone with big power (Manhoef vs Hunt)
 
Some welterweights cut from around 200lbs. Still, insane discussion. Can you imagine them getting hit flush by Ngannou for example? They would be lucky to survive without suffering serious brain trauma.

That would be like getting hit by a car - a Ford Escort to be precise.
 
Welterweight or Middleweight, but it would take a really elite fighter.

Woodley could probably do it if he landed flush enough times before his gas tank ran empty.

first dude i thought of. woodley has crazy power and is fast as fuck. could definitely give cormier a good scrap. but cormier is a small heavyweight, wonder what woodley would do against stipe.

I genuinely believe Woodley would beat DC

Romero and Mousasi at middleweight, i think that’s about it

Someone like Tyron Woodley could probably beat a heavyweight like Cyril Asker.
After that, doubt anyone else in WW could pull it off. Anyone lower is a tall (pun intended) ask.

Woodley???? Woodley that lost to Rory, Jake Shields and Nate Marquardt........that had a DRAW with Wonderboy?

Cool story bros........
 
I think depending on the match up some lightweights could beat HW's. Like a slower HW vs a skilled fast LW.
 
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