let's take a look at the LW ranking for Islam

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1 Arman Tsarukyan
2 Charles Oliveira
3 Justin Gaethje
4 Dustin Poirier
5 Mateusz Gamrot
6 Michael Chandler
7 Beneil Dariush
8 Rafael Fiziev
9 Max Holloway
10 Renato Moicano
11 Dan Hooker
12 Jalin Turner
13 Benoît Saint Denis
14 Rafael Dos Anjos
15 Bobby Green

so far on this list he's beaten green, hooker, charles, arman, dustin

off the rest of the list he needs to at least beat gaethje, gamrot, dariush, fiziev, holloway, bsd

to actually clear out the division. before going to welterweight to fight edwards

gsp and silva cleared out their divison before moving up. islam is only 32, and if he wants to cement both himself and khabib's legacy he needs a 5 to 6 more title defenses.

he can do that easy in 3 years or less if he can just be active.
 
I have nothing against Islam, perse. Except, that he’s an arrogant, blasphemous, clown. That definitely cherry picks his fights.

I’ve picked him to win every UFC fight he’s had, except one. So I’m aware of his entire UFC career. And I don’t pick against him, hoping that just in case he loses. That I will be right.

But do we need 10 new threads EVERYDAY about him?

Quite seriously you people are about to blow Conor, and Khabib’s fans out of the water for ridiculous statements, etc. The Khabib part is mind boggling. The EXACT same fanbase.

For a guy with TWO top 5 wins at LW? That beat the FW champ twice. And how much sway should the rematch with Alex hold?

You know.. Alex had surgery a month earlier. Was drinking everyday. And accepted on one week’s notice.

Come on.. To acknowledge the second fight as being a legit defence, is on the verge of being wrong, imo.

However, the record books are the only thing that matter. Therefore Islam has 3 defences at LW.

But you people need to fucking relax, alright. It’s all seems so fucking desperate, imo.

Get EIGHT STRAIGHT TITLE DEFENCES.

That puts him at the same level on the GOAT LADDER as Aldo/Cruz. Get a couple more straight defences after that, and he’s edging up to the GSP, Jones, Silva, and DJ conversation.

He has THREE defences.

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I have nothing against Islam, perse. Except, that he’s an arrogant, blasphemous, clown. That definitely cherry picks his fights.

I’ve picked him to win every UFC fight he’s had, except one. So I’m aware of his entire UFC career. And I don’t pick against him, hoping that just in case he loses. That I will be right.

But do we need 10 new threads EVERYDAY about him?

Quite seriously you people are about to blow Conor, and Khabib’s fans out of the water for ridiculous statements, etc. The Khabib part is mind boggling. The EXACT same fanbase.

For a guy with TWO top 5 wins at LW? That beat the FW champ twice. And how much sway should the rematch with Alex hold?

You know.. Alex had surgery a month earlier. Was drinking everyday. And accepted on one week’s notice.

Come on.. To acknowledge the second fight as being a legit defence, is on the verge of being wrong, imo.

However, the record books are the only thing that matter. Therefore Islam has 3 defences at LW.

But you people need to fucking relax, alright. It’s all seems so fucking desperate, imo.

Get EIGHT STRAIGHT TITLE DEFENCES.

That puts him at the same level on the GOAT LADDER as Aldo/Cruz. Get a couple more straight defences after that, and he’s edging up to the GSP, Jones, Silva, and DJ conversation.

He has THREE defences.

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I concur and wIll add..


2 of those defenses were against a FW ...

1 defense against an actual LW...


Islam may very well be the best LW ever...but hes not there yet ..or hasnt proven it all yet...

Im not sold on his GOAT status but hes one of the best in the game right now
 
I have nothing against Islam, perse. Except, that he’s an arrogant, blasphemous, clown. That definitely cherry picks his fights.

I’ve picked him to win every UFC fight he’s had, except one. So I’m aware of his entire UFC career. And I don’t pick against him, hoping that just in case he loses. That I will be right.

But do we need 10 new threads EVERYDAY about him?

Quite seriously you people are about to blow Conor, and Khabib’s fans out of the water for ridiculous statements, etc. The Khabib part is mind boggling. The EXACT same fanbase.

For a guy with TWO top 5 wins at LW? That beat the FW champ twice. And how much sway should the rematch with Alex hold?

You know.. Alex had surgery a month earlier. Was drinking everyday. And accepted on one week’s notice.

Come on.. To acknowledge the second fight as being a legit defence, is on the verge of being wrong, imo.

However, the record books are the only thing that matter. Therefore Islam has 3 defences at LW.

But you people need to fucking relax, alright. It’s all seems so fucking desperate, imo.

Get EIGHT STRAIGHT TITLE DEFENCES.

That puts him at the same level on the GOAT LADDER as Aldo/Cruz. Get a couple more straight defences after that, and he’s edging up to the GSP, Jones, Silva, and DJ conversation.

He has THREE defences.

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Added stuff.

You gotta hand out boats to those entering this thread. Wading through this sea of tears w/ a caps Tsunami sprinked in here and there is a f'n choreeeeeeeeeeee.

Kudos to you tho brutha. It ain't easy to cry and type but you pushed through G.
 
I have nothing against Islam, perse. Except, that he’s an arrogant, blasphemous, clown. That definitely cherry picks his fights.

I’ve picked him to win every UFC fight he’s had, except one. So I’m aware of his entire UFC career. And I don’t pick against him, hoping that just in case he loses. That I will be right.

But do we need 10 new threads EVERYDAY about him?

Quite seriously you people are about to blow Conor, and Khabib’s fans out of the water for ridiculous statements, etc. The Khabib part is mind boggling. The EXACT same fanbase.

For a guy with TWO top 5 wins at LW? That beat the FW champ twice. And how much sway should the rematch with Alex hold?

You know.. Alex had surgery a month earlier. Was drinking everyday. And accepted on one week’s notice.

Come on.. To acknowledge the second fight as being a legit defence, is on the verge of being wrong, imo.

However, the record books are the only thing that matter. Therefore Islam has 3 defences at LW.

But you people need to fucking relax, alright. It’s all seems so fucking desperate, imo.

Get EIGHT STRAIGHT TITLE DEFENCES.

That puts him at the same level on the GOAT LADDER as Aldo/Cruz. Get a couple more straight defences after that, and he’s edging up to the GSP, Jones, Silva, and DJ conversation.

He has THREE defences.

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Added stuff.
I agree that he needs way more defences to even be mentioned in the GOAT discussion, but he can break the LW defence record in his next fight, which will be huge for him.

I am curious about the "blasphemous" label you put on him, in what context?

Also, it's obvious why there are so many threads about him, he just defended his title in a great fight against a legend in Dustin. By the next card, the threads will slow down. That's usually how the cycle goes.
 
He needs to beat a FW (Max) to be able to go up? Really? He needs to get past a washed up, broken down Dariush to be allowed to challenge for a second belt? LMAO. Come on man..
 
He'll have to beat everyone twice and then dumpster dive outside the top 10, then we can attack him for the people we just insisted he fight not being ranked high enough, and once he's on a 90 fight win streak and is well into his 40s, then maybe we can talk about moving up.
 
He should defend atleast 2 more times. Arman and Charles. Charles deaerves the rematch. He beat his run to the title and his defenses put him amongst the top 5 all time lw
 
I don't think he has 3 years left. He is going to drop a fight within 3 years and there especially if he moves up. He probably has 2-3 hard fights left before we start to see a big decline. It is hard to stay on top fighting top contenders. Dustin was technically Islam's first ranked LW title defense.

Also random LOL thought about Paddy entering the top 15 if he beats Green. I will laugh my ass off if Paddy gets a title shot in the future.
 
He'll have to beat everyone twice and then dumpster dive outside the top 10, then we can attack him for the people we just insisted he fight not being ranked high enough, and once he's on a 90 fight win streak and is well into his 40s, then maybe we can talk about moving up.
It's funny how few had an issue with Volks reign before moving up which consisted of 4 title defenses with 3 title fights against the same opponent but noo Islam needs at least 9 defenses before even thinking about a move up.
 
It's funny how few had an issue with Volks reign before moving up which consisted of 4 title defenses with 3 title fights against the same opponent but noo Islam needs at least 9 defenses before even thinking about a move up.
Nor Cejudo, nor Conor, Nor DC, nor Izzy, nor TJ going down. And the same people all shit on Khabib for NOT moving up, and call Islam a "weight bully". The only ones with longer win streaks before moving up were Jones and GSP, and they didn't just move up, they left the sport for years and only came back at the higher weight class when there was a favorable matchup to fight for the belt.

It's pretty transparent that they think Islam would win the WW belt and are just hoping to run out the clock until he gets older and loses a step. It's not because they really need him to beat 3 different guys twice and give title shots to guys who aren't even top 10.
 
It's funny how few had an issue with Volks reign before moving up which consisted of 4 title defenses with 3 title fights against the same opponent but noo Islam needs at least 9 defenses before even thinking about a move up.

tons of people had issue with volk going up. Only a minority of fans were even interested In him moving up because most thought he had zero chance and it was a waste of a fight.
 
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He just needs to beat Justin IMO and then he can move up.

He's beat everyone else. Fk rematches.
 
I’d like but not happening is beat Arman, Justin, and Max for the BMF

Then take out the 170lb champ and ride away on his Husqvarna into the sunset
 
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