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Lets put this "Frankie deserves the shot before Conor" joke to rest

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  1. AhuraMazda Purple Belt

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    I dont want to bad mouth Frankie, he is a amazing fighter. But lets take a look at his past fights.

    1. Arguably loses to Penn in their first fight.
    2. Should have lost to Maynard.
    3. Two losses to Bendo.
    4. Loss to Aldo.
    5. Had a pretty tough fight with Oliveira.
    6. Took him 3 rounds to beat Dolce Diet To The Death Zombie Penn.
    7. Destroys Cub who had trouble with Dennis Siver in the grappling department.

    Do we really want to see this guy in ANOTHER title fight? It's not like his wrestling has improved to trouble Aldo with considering Aldo still has one of if not the best TDD in the sport. Its not like his striking is any better. The man has peaked and is now getting up their in age.

    What will his rematch with Aldo look like? The same as the first. Same old Frankie Edgar fight.

    Conor goes in their and makes fights look easy. Torn ACL or not. He's young. He is obsessed with getting better. He is a tactician. He brings elite level striking to challenge Aldo's striking.

    All hype and memes aside. You cannot deny that Conor is an elite fighter and you cannot tell me that you would prefer to watch Frankie fight Aldo first.
     
  2. uhwrestler Banned Banned

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    lol your comparing fights with the best 155'ers (edgar) who arguably beat henderson and should have been 155 pound champ...versus conner who beat some barely top 15 featherweights. Even at 145 Edgar beat cub who is higher ranked then anyone Conner fought
     
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    agree with TS, frankie destroyed swanson with wrestling, aldo showed us against mendes that nobody can take him down, and no fucking way frankie outstrikes aldo, pointless rematch
     
  4. born2killl Brown Belt

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    Frankie would deserve it more if it were his 1st shot at Aldo. But for his 2nd shot, eh, either way. Just get Lucky charms shot over with so we dont have to listen to his godawful fake trash talk
     
  5. Megatronlee Red Belt

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    Frankie fans are just jealous. Mma fans don't like STARS. I think they all secretly want UFC to be back in the dark ages
     
  6. Tamriel Terror Silver Belt

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    i really have no interest in edgar vs aldo II
     
  7. Captain_Dammitt Brown Belt

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    Cub Swanson >>>>>>>>> anyone Conor has faced.

    This McGregjoke bandwaggon is overflowing and will crash hard when he loses.
     
  8. JKS 77+&--#rT....

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    Sounds like you're just skewing that facts in your favour to prove this
     
  9. Hans Gercmiov Titanium Belt

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    He doesn't at all in my opinion. He has one really good win and 2 virtual squash matches, and he already lost to Aldo. Another good win or 2 and he'll be there.
     
  10. born2killl Brown Belt

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    MMA fans do like stars, not cartoon characters
     
  11. imissWECPalmer Purple Belt

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    derp but look at all the green on conors side derp
     
  12. Superior JCVD Belt Platinum Member

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    No way in hell i'm paying for Aldo - Edgar II
     
  13. grzelkaj Orange Belt

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    Well ts you made Edgar's point.

    Using the BJ Penn 3 argument is moot. I Dont think anyone could have mauled Penn the way he was mauled in that 3rd fight.

    It doesn't matter though he will best the winner of Aldo v Conor.
     
  14. RJ43 The Baddy

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    Oliveira is a nice win, Cub was a huge win...especially the way Frankie did it.

    I honestly think it's a toss up for who deserves it at this point and on the promotional side there is no contest. Frankie is still in a good spot as the top 4 contenders in the division are tied up so he'll get a low-end top 10 opponent who he will wreck, get a pay day, and be able to avoid Mendes to get his 2nd shot.

    Frankie is going to get another shot at the title within the year.
     
  15. ToetotheFace Green Belt

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    MMA fans don't give a shit about what a fighter brings to the business unless they think somehow MMA could be hurt so bad by a lack of it that it could interrupt their enjoyment.

    UFC would do just fine without Connor. He is helping them, but acting like he is bring UFC in to a territory they have never been is ridiculous. Media reports on Jones five times as much McGregor. It isn't a reason for me to like him as I don't give a shit unless I think the promotion is in danger, which they aren't. Not that I hate Connor(although I don't like him), but acting like anyone who does wants MMA to collapse from its current state is ridiculous. You're overestimating his effect.

    People don't like that he is getting a shot mostly because he didn't fight a top 5 fighter and Dana White said the same BS he says about every big fight during Swanson vs. Edgar. Connor level of achievement to deserve the shot is being undersold though, he did win 5 straight impressively with a couple good wins against fringe top ten FWs.

    The points the TS made about Edgar at LW were irrelevant and wrong(you can't argue things one way then make exceptions for the Bendo fights when it doesn't fit your argument, especially when Edgar proved his superiorty over those opponents with wins that can't be disputed), but I don't think Edgar deserves it anymore than Connor. His Cub win is far better than any of Connor's wins, but I don't think it puts him above Connor in totality because of the fact that Edgar has already been given one shot.

    I'm not worried because no matter the result there is a very good shot that Edgar is going to fight the winner anyways.
     
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    I would have thought all the "Frankie lost the first fight with Penn" talk would have gone away after he beat him more convincingly in the 2nd fight and crushed him (being only the 2nd person to stop him, 1st being prime Hughes) in the 2nd fight. Also Gray won the first rnd of the 2nd fight big, and only pulled out 1 other round. Frankie took 3 rounds from Gray...and then starched him (1st official stoppage of Maynard career even though he was technically out vs Emerson) in the 3rd fight.

    Am I wrong or am I just wearing hater glasses?
     
  18. SeattleFightFan Steel Belt

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    it was either more rematches, or give a guy not in the top 5 a title shot.

    UFC chose to not do rematches. not for the first time, and not for the last time.

    "deserve" has got nuthin to do with nuthin. it's Zuffa business as usual.
     
  19. wlu29 Banned Banned

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    is you florida?
     
  20. blacksnake Green Belt

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    LOL at "lucky charms".
     

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