Let's get racist

^ For the record, I am Asian and I'm not necessarily pissed, just pointing out the more correct/useful word. It would be great just to be referred to as another person instead of that [insert race here guy]. :D

Agreed.

I dislike labels that have nothing to do with personality, achievements or activities. Labels that are coincidence of birth are annoying for the most part.
 
Two things. This is a U.S. based forum (although there are certainly many international members) and the U.S. Census is the only Census I am familiar with.

That being said, it is a general rule that the term "Asian" is preferred over "Oriental." Oriental whether being offensive or not, it is antiquated.

Being from America as well I can respect that this is an American forum, but quoting something as intelligent or even a basis of fact because our goverment released it kinda makes me shudder with the garbage that spews out of their collective pie hole.

The Uruguay point is actually kind of cool, but on the Asian thing I think it's plain to see why that term is so inaccurate whether it is the accepted term or not. I mean if you go European you atleast have a decent shot of most people being white or somewhat similar looking, while with Asia that is just much too far from the truth.

On the point of labels, of course they shouldn't be used with any type of seriousness but if I don't know someone and your looking for a broad description they can usually atleast give you some ballpark starting point.
 
I think it's funny how a lot of people in the English-speaking world (and similarly influenced Western countries) only use the word 'Asian' about people who look 'kinda Chinese'. As if Indian people don't count or something.

People are also entirely too conscious of ethnicities, IMO, but that's another long thread.
 
When I stopped by John Frankl's gym in Seoul South Korea, I was the only non-Korean rolling. I was a minority.

Depends on which day of the week and which particular John Frankl gym. The foreigners were either English teachers or military. Rarely there would be a foreign businessman.

I was probably one of the rarest ethnic groups in Korea, ie a British Iraqi with Scottish citizenship.
 
My gym is mostly white but we have a few black dudes and a Jordanian who we affectionately call Brohammad or Capt. Douchebag.

We have a Jordanian whom we affectionately call, Terrorist. And his speciality is the "Ramadan Rip" aka, "Jihad Choke". (Clock Choke from side control)

Got about 60% westerners, consisting of Russians (white and Asianish), Americans and Europeans (white mostly), a solitary huge black guy from Guadalupe, and some Brazilians (Brazilian)

The other 40% are Asians, almost all of which are Chinese.

Also, given my AV, I'm required to state that the Chinaman is not the issue here, dude.

+1 For the Lebowski reference.

I agree. Blacks simply don't have the upper body strength that is required for wrestling....or math.

I'm glad someone said it before me.

Dude... Thats low.
 
I live in Maine, so as you would assume, my class is 100% white.
 
And if you have read anything I have been typing, I have been saying ON AVERAGE meaning the Mean. But you don't understand that concept do you?

Cullen Jones is an outlier not the norm. There are ALWAYS outliers in society.

I am black, a swimmer, an instructor and coach of many young black swimmers. You sir are an ignorant racist.
 
I think it's funny how a lot of people in the English-speaking world (and similarly influenced Western countries) only use the word 'Asian' about people who look 'kinda Chinese'. As if Indian people don't count or something.

People are also entirely too conscious of ethnicities, IMO, but that's another long thread.

Well I've heard the terms south asians, southeast asians, east asians, and pacific islanders in reference to the people of various regions in Asia. I'd imagine 'Oriental' to be an outdated term such as 'Negroes'.
 
I am black, a swimmer, an instructor and coach of many young black swimmers. You sir are an ignorant racist.

I can't believe this thread is still going. I just thought I would chime in that black people have a natural subliminal fear of water. I read it in a book.

You and all of the swimmers you coach must be outliers. Simple as that.

Now can we please return to topic. I hate seeing good threads ruined by racist propaganda.
 
I can't believe this thread is still going. I just thought I would chime in that black people have a natural subliminal fear of water. I read it in a book.

You and all of the swimmers you coach must be outliers. Simple as that.

Now can we please return to topic. I hate seeing good threads ruined by racist propaganda.

What book is that? I can't wait to share with my swimmers of how special they are to be outliers.

One of the kids was 2nd in state 12&under boys this year. He is half African American and half Japanese. Which side helps him the most? The Black explosiveness or the Asian calculative abilities?
 
What book is that? I can't wait to share with my swimmers of how special they are to be outliers.

One of the kids was 2nd in state 12&under boys this year. He is half African American and half Japanese. Which side helps him the most? The Black explosiveness or the Asian calculative abilities?

Educated minds would say his asian side. The feminine body structure would make him move through the water faster essentially cancelling all the negative black traits.
 
I am black, a swimmer, an instructor and coach of many young black swimmers. You sir are an ignorant racist.

Haha WHATEVER dude. Seriously stop mudslinging. i never said anything BAD about any race. How does that make me a racist? People love throwing that term around and it is comical nowadays.

You would do good to point out the real racists.

If i am a racist than why did I say that no asian/white person can compete with black people in the 100m and 200m? The first white person ever to break the 10 second barrier 100m is a french runner and that JUST HAPPENED this summer.

Get a clue man, i am just pointing out certain trends etc in society. Don't get your panties in a bunch. AND stop calling people that term just because you disagree with them and science in particular.
 
I can't believe this thread is still going. I just thought I would chime in that black people have a natural subliminal fear of water. I read it in a book.

You and all of the swimmers you coach must be outliers. Simple as that.

Now can we please return to topic. I hate seeing good threads ruined by racist propaganda.

I knew we couldnt have an adult conversation on here. You would rather argue semantics than argue science.

I never said black people can't swim, of course they can. All i am saying is that they are not the best in the water just like white are not the best in the 100/200m. Wtf is wrong with that retards. AND that has to do with genetics.

Please stop believing in the myths.
 
Get a clue man, i am just pointing out certain trends etc in society. Don't get your panties in a bunch. AND stop calling people that term just because you disagree with them and science in particular.

That's the point dude. You are confusing social trends with genetic limitations that don't exist. Race is an artificial social construct based on observable generalities, not scientific genetic variations. You can't effectively observe a persons genome and determine race/ethnicity.

Did you know that people from the continent of Africa have more genetic variation (outliers) than the rest of the world combined due to hundreds of thousands of years headstart in evolution before migrating out of the continent? The only reason we as as society lumped them all into one category of 'black' is the observable skin color due to evolving in a temperate zone, a genetic feature that is hardly exclusive to Africans by the way.
 
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You can call us whatever you want.

Asians, Orientals, whatever.

We gave you all chinese takeout, ninjers, and crappy toys from Hong Kong laced with chemical poisons so we get the last laugh...









...unfortunately our penises are tiny. DAMNN U EVOLUTION

Wat. Thanks for sharing that you have a tiny penis? There's actually no penis size by race. Penis size myths are made up by white guys that jack off to Japanese porn. And they don't make crappy toys in Hong Kong, maybe in the 60's or so? Hong Kong is a ridiculously expensive place to live. It's like saying they make crappy toys in Manhattan.

NE way I hope the people that are saying that asians, blacks, whites, whatever are genetically good at x sport are trolling. That shit is hilarious. It's all just cultural. I'm Taiwanese-American and I'm currently in Taiwan. When I used to lift at my university gym back in Illinois I would probably be lifting from a pure weight perspective below avg, but I guess a lot for my weight. Now at the university gym I'm at in Taiwan I'm like in the top 20 percentile. People just don't try to excel physically here, it's low priority for most people. On the opposite side of the gym there are really good ping pong players. Taiwanese people do NOT like high intensity activities. But of course it's not genetic. I met a guy at a BJJ place in Taiwan who had crazy conditioning. He had like 3x my conditioning. He does 200 body weight squats like nothing while I can't even do them without pausing.
 
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That's the point dude. You are confusing social trends with genetic limitations that don't exist. Race is an artificial social construct based on observable generalities, not scientific genetic variations. You can't effectively observe a persons genome and determine race/ethnicity.

Did you know that people from the continent of Africa have more genetic variation (outliers) than the rest of the world combined due to hundreds of thousands of years headstart in evolution before migrating out of the continent? The only reason we as as society lumped them all into one category of 'black' is the observable skin color due to evolving in a temperate zone, a genetic feature that is hardly exclusive to Africans by the way.

But see you are believing in the myth that the myth of race does not exist. Race does exist and it has nothing to do with skin color. In fact skin color has the least to do with determining someone's race.

This BS about social construct is what socialologists have conjured up in their heads and it is just that a myth.

And yes i knew that about Africa. Too bad they only look at mitochondria dna. I can tell you this if you took the skull of a Mongoloid and compared it to the skull of a Negroid (scientific terms) a baby could tell the difference.

If you believe in evolution than you MUST believe that there are different races. For what changes a person to look a certain way? Why it is the environment that we grow up in!!!!

Now take 3 distinct major racial groups 1) Caucasoid/ Mongoloid and Negroid and put them in different environments for the last 200,000 years and YOU WILL have evolution taking over and developing certain traits/abilities that othes dont have. And how does evolution do that? Oh by changing the GENES!

Just like all SNAKES do not look the same or move the same or have the same amount of venom or are the same size but they are all SNAKES!

We are all humans and should have the right to be treated equal BUT there are races and on a genetic level there are differences within the Human Race.

The VERY FACT that humans originated in Africa and some groups MOVED out of Africa hundreds of thousands of years ago to DIFFERENT Environments is what CAUSED the Human Population to develop differently through evolution and environment.

This is the enlightenment that I am trying to show. If you do not want to look into it for yourself or you disagree with me, fine than we can agree to disagree but PLEASE do not start calling me derogatory names.

Each main racial group has their advantages and disadvantages, what we as humans have to do is learn to embrace it not run from it and claim "race is a social construct it doesnt exist!" Because we have this over bearing sense that we should treat everyone equal and WE SHOULD but you must not deny science.
 
Educated minds would say his asian side. The feminine body structure would make him move through the water faster essentially cancelling all the negative black traits.

That's just gold right there, which to continue on Black people seem to have a very strong attraction to.
 
Well I've heard the terms south asians, southeast asians, east asians, and pacific islanders in reference to the people of various regions in Asia. I'd imagine 'Oriental' to be an outdated term such as 'Negroes'.

we had a native american english teacher in high school, and we were doing different plural endings to words tomato tomatoes and then voila Negro Negroes. and then he went all dead poets society on us and made us rip that page from the book:icon_lol:
 
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