Lerone Murphy / Mosvar Evloev Title Shot.....why no outrage for Murphy??

[JKS]

This whole thing about Evloev not getting a title shot and his fans being outraged got me thinking. I've read everything from the UFC hates Evloev, there is bias towards Russian fighters, the UFC is unfair with title shots etc etc. Even today I read how Evloev will get screwed now since he pulled out and Murphy got the Pico fight.

But then I look at Lerone Murphy, also came to the UFC in 2019. Is riding a 9 fight unbeaten streak like Evloev, 8-0-1 with pretty much equal level wins, has two finishes. Has the more recent win in April 2025, has been more active with 5 fights dating back to start of 2023 with Evloev 3 fights.

But yet, I haven't heard one thing about Murphy being skipped over for a title shot. Not one! No complaiing like Evloev, yet they are almost identical performacne wise. But yet the Evloev case is nothing but tears.

Help me understand here.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

It's the Bathtub Brigade who demand that every -ov and -ev gets treated like royalty regardless of their talent or entertainment value.

 

[JKS]

It's the Bathtub Brigade who demand that every -ov and -ev gets treated like royalty regardless of their talent or entertainment value.

Interesting! Do you by any chance there is some sense of entitlement by the Russian fans?? Or perhaps the circle of Khabib and Ali who are all buddies and have influence in the media are spinning this??

 

[dipstickjimmy]

This whole thing about Evloev not getting a title shot and his fans being outraged got me thinking. I've read everything from the UFC hates Evloev, there is bias towards Russian fighters, the UFC is unfair with title shots etc etc. Even today I read how Evloev will get screwed now since he pulled out and Murphy got the Pico fight.

But then I look at Lerone Murphy, also came to the UFC in 2019. Is riding a 9 fight unbeaten streak like Evloev, 8-0-1 with pretty much equal level wins, has two finishes. Has the more recent win in April 2025, has been more active with 5 fights dating back to start of 2023 with Evloev 3 fights.

But yet, I haven't heard one thing about Murphy being skipped over for a title shot. Not one! No complaiing like Evloev, yet they are almost identical performacne wise. But yet the Evloev case is nothing but tears.

Help me understand here.

Look at their last 4 fights.
Lerone beat Joshua Culibao???, Barboza, Ige & Emmet.

ovsar beat Sterling, Allen, Lopes & Ige.

So Ige cancels out. Sterling, Allen & Lopes are all top 10 ranked.
Barboza isn't top 10 and Culibao isn't. Emmet is top 10.

3>1 if you can't see the difference and feel their resume's are equal then I don't know what to tell you.

 

[jeskola]

This whole thing about Evloev not getting a title shot and his fans being outraged got me thinking. I've read everything from the UFC hates Evloev, there is bias towards Russian fighters, the UFC is unfair with title shots etc etc. Even today I read how Evloev will get screwed now since he pulled out and Murphy got the Pico fight.

But then I look at Lerone Murphy, also came to the UFC in 2019. Is riding a 9 fight unbeaten streak like Evloev, 8-0-1 with pretty much equal level wins, has two finishes. Has the more recent win in April 2025, has been more active with 5 fights dating back to start of 2023 with Evloev 3 fights.

But yet, I haven't heard one thing about Murphy being skipped over for a title shot. Not one! No complaiing like Evloev, yet they are almost identical performacne wise. But yet the Evloev case is nothing but tears.

Help me understand here.

Evloev wins over Lopes, Allen and Sterling are higher quality wins. #2, #4 and #7 recent champ. Murphy's over Emmett, Ige and Barbosa are good wins but down the chain a bit.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Interesting! Do you by any chance there is some sense of entitlement by the Russian fans?? Or perhaps the circle of Khabib and Ali who are all buddies and have influence in the media are spinning this??

I think that a lot of people here and on broader social media tend to rally behind the people they think UFC/Dana doesn't like. There's this impression that Russian fighters are held back, so any of those fighters having success is even better because it's going against the will of the promoter/promotion.

 

[TheNewGame]

Because Murphy never beat Lopes, the guy who just got a title shot from beating Brian Ortega and Ige.

 

[sdpdude9]

Evloev has 2 wins over current top 5 guys, 1 over a top 10.

Murphy has 1 win over a current top 10 guy, 0 over a top 5. And that win is ranked lower than all of Evloev’s wins right now.

It’s pretty simple, Evloev has the better wins. Casting them as similar isn’t accurate.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Yes we can compare quality of opponents and give mossfar the edge, but I’ll take Leroy’s availability and finishes. It’s never a good look when you can’t finish a sandwich and then try to goad the champ into a short notice fight because you want to starve yourself for your religious holiday that spans a month. Mossfart fans are insufferable.

 

[JKS]

Evloev wins over Lopes, Allen and Sterling are higher quality wins. #2, #4 and #7 recent champ. Murphy's over Emmett, Ige and Barbosa are good wins but down the chain a bit.

Well, I don't know about that. Sterling was a great BW, but at FW he was 1-0 with a win over Kattar, he really had no footing at FW. Lopes was his UFC debut and had no ranking, to take his current value and equate that to 2023 makes no sense.

 

[Trabaho]

Look at their last 4 fights.
Lerone beat Joshua Culibao???, Barboza, Ige & Emmet.

ovsar beat Sterling, Allen, Lopes & Ige.

So Ige cancels out. Sterling, Allen & Lopes are all top 10 ranked.
Barboza isn't top 10 and Culibao isn't. Emmet is top 10.

3>1 if you can't see the difference and feel their resume's are equal then I don't know what to tell you.

clearly better wins by Mosvar.

Murhpy should aslo be close for a shot due to not losing. However his Emmet fight was nothing that screams title shot, very backpaddeling and defensive playing the clock. But they both could get a eliminator to fight.

Especially since Mosvar beat Lopez who keeps getting big fights and shot. However styles and the Mexican market. Mosvar is a wrestler and controls, Lopez bangs.

Mosvar should get a title eliminator. However he got injured now

 

[JKS]

Look at their last 4 fights.
Lerone beat Joshua Culibao???, Barboza, Ige & Emmet.

ovsar beat Sterling, Allen, Lopes & Ige.

So Ige cancels out. Sterling, Allen & Lopes are all top 10 ranked.
Barboza isn't top 10 and Culibao isn't. Emmet is top 10.

3>1 if you can't see the difference and feel their resume's are equal then I don't know what to tell you.

Sterling?? 1-0 at the time at FW beating a guy who was 0-2, Lopes in his UFC debut who had no ranking??? Really?

I don't see much difference in resume here. Murphy has been more active. Even if you wanna give Evloev a edge, it's very slight.

My point is more that they are close in performance, but yet one guy not getting a shot is a travesty and the other is not even mentioned.

 

[sdpdude9]

Sterling?? 1-0 at the time at FW beating a guy who was 0-2, Lopes in his UFC debut who had no ranking??? Really?

I don't see much difference in resume here. Murphy has been more active. Even if you wanna give Evloev a edge, it's very slight.

My point is more that they are close in performance, but yet one guy not getting a shot is a travesty and the other is not even mentioned.

I mean if you want to invalidate wins, sure. But any way you slice it, Evloev’s resume is better. As far as activity, they have the same amount of fights in roughly the same amount of time. Except again, Evloev has the advantage winning all 9. So better wins, longer win streak, same activity. There’s no reason to say Murphy is equal or above unless you’re going out of your way to find a justification.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Look at their last 4 fights.
Lerone beat Joshua Culibao???, Barboza, Ige & Emmet.

ovsar beat Sterling, Allen, Lopes & Ige.

So Ige cancels out. Sterling, Allen & Lopes are all top 10 ranked.
Barboza isn't top 10 and Culibao isn't. Emmet is top 10.

3>1 if you can't see the difference and feel their resume's are equal then I don't know what to tell you.

Lol lopes was a debut fight it's just a win that aged well it's as good as a barboza win

 

[Thesnake101]

Well, I don't know about that. Sterling was a great BW, but at FW he was 1-0 with a win over Kattar, he really had no footing at FW. Lopes was his UFC debut and had no ranking, to take his current value and equate that to 2023 makes no sense.

Even if you want to discount all of Movsar's other wins, Allen is better than any of Lerone's wins by a country mile.

 

[Greyscale]

This whole thing about Evloev not getting a title shot and his fans being outraged got me thinking.

What fans?

 

[JKS]

What fans?

LOL, he's got some fans.

 

[sdpdude9]

Even if you want to discount all of Movsar's other wins, Allen is better than any of Lerone's wins by a country mile.

He has the highest ranked win period, a better resume, more wins over guys highly ranked now, more wins in a row. But they’re totally equal, just Russian fanboys.

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

This whole thing about Evloev not getting a title shot and his fans being outraged got me thinking. I've read everything from the UFC hates Evloev, there is bias towards Russian fighters, the UFC is unfair with title shots etc etc. Even today I read how Evloev will get screwed now since he pulled out and Murphy got the Pico fight.

But then I look at Lerone Murphy, also came to the UFC in 2019. Is riding a 9 fight unbeaten streak like Evloev, 8-0-1 with pretty much equal level wins, has two finishes. Has the more recent win in April 2025, has been more active with 5 fights dating back to start of 2023 with Evloev 3 fights.

But yet, I haven't heard one thing about Murphy being skipped over for a title shot. Not one! No complaiing like Evloev, yet they are almost identical performacne wise. But yet the Evloev case is nothing but tears.

Help me understand here.

While it's understandable to say they're not that far apart Evloev IS clearly ahead and always has been so until he gets a titleshot or L or idk Murphy KOs Pico only Murphy himself would say he's next in line.

 

[JKS]

I mean if you want to invalidate wins, sure. But any way you slice it, Evloev’s resume is better. As far as activity, they have the same amount of fights in roughly the same amount of time. Except again, Evloev has the advantage winning all 9. So better wins, longer win streak, same activity. There’s no reason to say Murphy is equal or above unless you’re going out of your way to find a justification.

I guess I will agree with you and say his resume is better, you can invalidate wins with anyone. I had the idea they were pretty equal at the start of the thread, Evloev's resume was better, but Murphy was more active and had the more recent win. So I saw it as equal in that respect.

But my point was more about how Murphy got no attention with his streak and performance for a title shot, but with Evloev, there's been an outrage. Even if Evloev deserves it a bit more, I would have figured the fans and media would have saw it more equal in that respect.