News Leon Edwards vs Colby Covington targeted for July 22 in London

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Iroh said:
I'm not saying they are the same. But both are changing a resolute stance in order to agree with the opposite party. If you want to give Leon shit for it, one can simply apply the term that implies a loss or being a loser, to the subject. Perhaps out of a dislike for Leon.

Whether Leon really has lost here, depends on whether this was really a matter of principle for him, or just a matter of in the moment emotion, or if he faked the concern and opposal (but personally, I really don't think he was faking).
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I think he was sincere GIVEN the conditions.

Like if my boss were to tell me "next I want you to come clean out my garage" I'd have a SINCERE refusal, flat out. But if he then told me "ok, you don't want to, fine. But if you change your mind I'll pay you $30k for 2 days' work" then I'd accept EAGERLY.

Yes, my stance changed, but I did NOT cave. I didn't lose, I didn't lose face, I'm not regretful or embarrassed about my choice - I did what made sense for my pocketbook.

So I'm only saying his agreement is probably a huge win and windfall for him. If his detractors want to laugh about him doubling or tripling his regular pay, they should laugh away. But they're laughing at a man who's making winning decisions.

So I just don't see it as anything to laugh about when a man negotiates his way into some more cash. But, hey, I'm not a hater, lol. I get that some others will laugh. While they make their normal salary or pay and he makes double or triple his. It takes all kinds.
 
mudrubble said:
Well I didn't know that and I still don't. I think he got paid, which is the opposite of caving to me.

When I come to terms with clients and get paid, my company gets paid and we're both happy. When I cave, which is rare, I'm unhappy and my company is not super thrilled.

I don't have any reason to suspect Leon caved, but I do have reason to suspect they threw some $ at him and he came to terms and got PAID.

To me, getting paid is the opposite of caving because one is shitty and one is GREAT!
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His public statement was holding off due to the virtue of of Colby not earning it; not due to wanting more pay. Now we all knew that was just a thinly veiled attempt by Leon to get more money and thevast majority of poster in those thread called that out; nevertheless, Leon presented it as an integrity reason and that lasted all of a week; which is what we are mocking. He could have easily said he wasnt fighting Colby unless he got paid, but he choose to present it in a much different way instead of just being honest about it. Hence us mocking him caving in.
 
scoobster said:
think it was more a case of him being told he's doing it
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I think getting Leon on board is much more a case of having the fight in London and upping the $$$.

Otherwise, there is simply no good reason for Leon to not refuse the fight until Jorge/Burns plays out. What is the UFC going to do...strip the guy who beat the dominant champ twice in a row, mere weeks after he defended? LOL - no.
 
Obviously this wouldn't be the fairest title shot, but at least Colby finally has to fight a top guy in his prime. And if he does win, he'll even have to fight another one!

Belal is the only guy who deserves a shot at this moment and he seems content with the deal cut with the UFC in his last meeting. Burns is on a one fight streak til he fights Masvidal.

UFC fuckery, sure, but by fall it won't matter.
 
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JudoThrowFiasco said:
His public statement was holding off due to the virtue of of Colby not earning it; not due to wanting more pay. Now we all knew that was just a thinly veiled attempt by Leon to get more money and thevast majority of poster in those thread called that out; nevertheless, Leon presented it as an integrity reason and that lasted all of a week; which is what we are mocking. He could have easily said he wasnt fighting Colby unless he got paid, but he choose to present it in a much different way instead of just being honest about it. Hence us mocking him caving in.
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I agree with your point, it's similar to people getting mad at Adesanya prompting fights as if he's gonna look for the kill shot and then point fighting. Just disingenuous. But the UFC doesn't like to get called out for not paying well or for sliding stuff under the table to make deals so Leon did the right thing for himself.
 
Kudos to him if he takes that fight. London seems like an electric atmosphere. I hope he gets Mas after that. Rooting for Leon in that fight.
 
SovereignPhantom said:
I agree with your point, it's similar to people getting mad at Adesanya prompting fights as if he's gonna look for the kill shot and then point fighting. Just disingenuous. But the UFC doesn't like to get called out for not paying well or for sliding stuff under the table to make deals so Leon did the right thing for himself.
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Sure he did, but he presented us with a completely different reason which is why we can snicker at him.
 
I didn't thing Leon was going to get through Usman, so hopefully Leon can catch lightning in a bottle twice (or three times rather).

I'm getting tired of recycled matchups and contenders and having Leon as champ is a welcomed change.
 
JudoThrowFiasco said:
His public statement was holding off due to the virtue of of Colby not earning it; not due to wanting more pay. Now we all knew that was just a thinly veiled attempt by Leon to get more money and thevast majority of poster in those thread called that out; nevertheless, Leon presented it as an integrity reason and that lasted all of a week; which is what we are mocking. He could have easily said he wasnt fighting Colby unless he got paid, but he choose to present it in a much different way instead of just being honest about it. Hence us mocking him caving in.
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I hear you. I'm just laughing because while you guys are mocking, most of you are earning the same pay you did last month. Leon maybe just doubled or tripled his.

So I just find it funny when ppl who are not increasing their pay like he is are laughing at him for not being publicly transparent about how he increases his. I think he must be laughing harder at those poor slobs for not upping their game like he's upping his.

And as for his publicly stated reasons, that's just stuff said to move the public to get support for his stance, to force the UFC's hand more. He's basically using fan reaction to bolster his argument to get paid.

Smart! Use the ppl mocking you to make $. I'm not mad at it....
 
Huge fight for Leon to get this fight in the UK as well. If he kos Colby, who will for sure shit talk the UK for this fight build up, he will have a MASSIVE following everywhere online.


Huge opportunity here for Leon, especially if he can make Colby literally run away like Usman did
 
Would gain a lot of respect for Leon if he stands his ground and doesn't give him the shot but I definitely don't blame him if he is caving to the UFC, they are ruthless and won't hesitate to strip Leon. Way of the road
 
mudrubble said:
I hear you. I'm just laughing because while you guys are mocking, most of you are earning the same pay you did last month. Leon maybe just doubled or tripled his.

So I just find it funny when ppl who are not increasing their pay like he is are laughing at him for not being publicly transparent about how he increases his. I think he must be laughing harder at those poor slobs for not upping their game like he's upping his.

And as for his publicly stated reasons, that's just stuff said to move the public to get support for his stance, to force the UFC's hand more. He's basically using fan reaction to bolster his argument to get paid.

Smart! Use the ppl mocking you to make $. I'm not mad at it....
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Well youre seriously assuming what he negotiated. You may want to hold off waving the money flag until the details come out.
 
I’d rather watch Colby than Muhammad……Press conferences with Leon / Muhammad would be unwatchable
 
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