LeBron is is a better player than Jordan.

[Breakitdown]

The MASTER at work LOL!

 

[Money509]

You also forgot

Too Unskilled
Too Many Roids

We know you don't care how "good" The Known Degenerate is - you've never seen him play before nor have you played yourself. At the end of the day he is the 2nd most skilled player of all time and a great athlete in his own right. No offense, but when you're better on offense and defense than someone you will usually win in a 1v1 scenario LMAO. I see this game ending 21-7 in the Known Degenerate's favor. The Known Steroid user SIMPLY doesn't have enough moves in his repertoire for a 1v1 encounter as evinced by watching him play the game.

lel legoat would bullrush jordan and bully him

 

[Breakitdown]

lel legoat would bullrush jordan and bully him

This is what it looks like when you've run out of cards to play.

*argument utterly crushed
*restate conclusion without evidence

Thanks for the concession. Rarely see it on forums.

 

[Money509]

The MASTER at work LOL!

#monsterbron

 

[Money509]

This is what it looks like when you've run out of cards to play.

*argument utterly crushed
*restate conclusion without evidence

Thanks for the concession. Rarely see it on forums.

Lol trying to end the debate because you know you are losing. Lebron is too big, nobody is stopping him one on one not even jordan. He would nullify jordan and jordan wouldnt be able to stop him simply do to the fact that he is weaker and it wouldnt be physically possible. Jordan might have a better track record like going 6 for 6 but he wouldnt win 1 on 1 and you know it.

 

[Money509]

Jordan would probably need roids to even come remotely close to being able to match lebron's size and strength.

 

[Breakitdown]

Lol trying to end the debate because you know you are losing. Lebron is too big, nobody is stopping him one on one not even jordan. He would nullify jordan and jordan wouldnt be able to stop him simply do to the fact that he is weaker and it wouldnt be physically possible. Jordan might have a better track record like going 6 for 6 but he wouldnt win 1 on 1 and you know it.

This was never a debate, it was me educating you. That's what you fail (among MANY many other things) to see.

Your premises have been debunked 10 times over and I've provided evidence for my claims. You simply restate your premises in a sophomoric attempt to save face. Look, you've never played the game before (you've admitted as much multiple times already) and have never played a 1v1 game (or any game) in your life. I know more than you and I'm better than you, ergo my opinion(s) and analyses hold far more water than your own (I speak for everyone when I say this).

Let's not get into physics here (yet another realm where I know far more than you do) for the sake of saving you more embarrassment than you've already suffered LOL!

 

[Breakitdown]

PHYSICS

 

[Money509]

PHYSICS

Ok he airballed a free throw. Still too big and too much of a beast for jordan 1 on1. Him airballing free throw is iirelevant, deandre jordan is ashitty ass free throw shooter but would demolish klay pubehead 1 on1 for example.

 

[Money509]

These MJ fans fucking worship him like he is invincible lmao. Just accept it, hes not strong enough to face lebron. Lebron would just play bully ball with him.

 

[copyandpasteguy]

Jordan would probably need roids to even come remotely close to being able to match lebron's size and strength.

we aren't talking about 1on1, we are talking about there performance in basketball games
this isn't a size strength argument and I have seen players jordans size gaurd LeBron well.

These MJ fans fucking worship him like he is invincible lmao. Just accept it, hes not strong enough to face lebron. Lebron would just play bully ball with him.

 

[faustian]

Lebron is poor man's Magic Johnson if we are being honest or more athletic Oscar Robertson.

lol shut the hell up Chillez

 

[Prefect]

Jordan would probably need roids to even come remotely close to being able to match lebron's size and strength.

Jordan was on roids. The whole bulls team was jacked after Jordan came back from baseball. When Jordan came back as a SF for the Washington Wizards, he was even more bulked up and it would have worked had he not gotten injured. Steroids help a lot with recovery so playing balls out for 82 games is a lot easier and makes you less prone to injury. Aside from the end and one season early on in his career hardly had any issues with injuries.

Jordan's comeback though never would have been dominate even if healthy just due to how old he was and how much more athletic the league became. Every team has someone that can almost dunk from the free throw line. And defenses with the rule changes help nullify iso offenses. Wizard's Jordan would never dominate with zone defenses.

 

[Cold187um]

These MJ fans fucking worship him like he is invincible lmao. Just accept it, hes not strong enough to face lebron. Lebron would just play bully ball withhim.

He doesnt "bully ball" Tony Allen and Im supposed to believ he'll do that to Jordan?

 

[CableandThanos]

If Jordan wouldn't have left for baseball, he would have gone to and won 8 straight titles. Lebron has benefitted greatly from an unbelievably weak eastern conference, while Jordan went through the 90's Pistons, Celtics, Knicks, Pacers, and Magic(that's just the east).

On top of all that, if Jordan played with today's rules; hand check fouls, body contact fouls, anti-flop rules, weak flagrant fouls, and restricted area, he would have gotten to the rim at will, gotten key defenders in foul trouble, and gone to the FT line(where he shot 84%) 5-10 more times a game. He would have literally put up videogame numbers(his stats are already pretty ridiculous).

This is a myth and a lie. By the time Jordan stopped getting his shit pushed in by the pistons and celtics in the playoffs, those teams had grown old. He beat Detroit in his first ring run. Thats it, he never played them or the 76ers or the celtics again after that.

see from the chart below he lost his first 6 times in the playoffs and then finally beat an old detroit team. He never had to play those "legend" teams again.

Also his first win against the Lakers was with no kareem, an old Magic and a hurt scot and worthy.

The defense excuse is also not valid, teams today can help and shift more to one side to bring extra defenders for help than back in the day. Back in the day you had to be within an arms length of your man, meaning that people could clear to one side and you had to go with them. Now you can cheat and even bring extra defenders over.

How do you think you had barkley, jordan, etc play 1 on 1 on one side of the court just backing their man down.

1984–85 Eastern 7th Central 3rd 38 44 .463 21 Lost First Round (Bucks) 3–1[32] Michael Jordan
(ROY)[7] Kevin Loughery
1985–86 Eastern 8th Central 4th 30 52 .366 27 Lost First Round (Celtics) 3–0[33] — Stan Albeck
1986–87 Eastern 8th Central 5th 40 42 .488 17 Lost First Round (Celtics) 3–0[34] — Doug Collins
1987–88 Eastern 3rd Central 2nd[h] 50 32 .610 4 Won First Round (Cavaliers) 3–2
Lost Conference Semifinals (Pistons) 4–1[36] Michael Jordan
(MVP, DPOY, AMVP)[7]
Jerry Krause (EOY) Doug Collins
1988–89 Eastern 6th Central 5th 47 35 .573 16 Won First Round (Cavaliers) 3–2
Won Conference Semifinals (Knicks) 4–2
Lost Conference Finals (Pistons) 4–2[37] — Doug Collins
1989–90 Eastern 3rd Central 2nd 55 27 .671 4 Won First Round (Bucks) 3–1
Won Conference Semifinals (76ers) 4–1
Lost Conference Finals (Pistons) 4–3[38] — Phil Jackson
1990–91 Eastern 1st Central 1st 61 21 .744 — Won First Round (Knicks) 3–0
Won Conference Semifinals (76ers) 4–1
Won Conference Finals (Pistons) 4–0
Won NBA Finals (Lakers) 4–1[39] Michael Jordan
(MVP, FMVP)[7] Phil Jackson
1991–92 Eastern 1st Central 1st 67 15 .817 — Won First Round (Heat) 3–0
Won Conference Semifinals (Knicks) 4–3
Won Conference Finals (Cavaliers) 4–2
Won NBA Finals (Trail Blazers) 4–2[40] Michael Jordan
(MVP, FMVP)[7] Phil Jackson
1992–93 Eastern 2nd Central 1st 57 25 .695 — Won First Round (Hawks) 3–0
Won Conference Semifinals (Cavaliers) 4–0
Won Conference Finals (Knicks) 4–2
Won NBA Finals (Suns) 4–2[41] Michael Jordan
(FMVP)[7] Phil Jackson
1993–94 Eastern 3rd Central 2nd 55 27 .671 2 Won First Round (Cavaliers) 3–0
Lost Conference Semifinals (Knicks) 4–3[42] Scottie Pippen
(AMVP)[7] Phil Jackson
1994–95 Eastern 5th Central 3rd 47 35 .573 5 Won First Round (Hornets) 3–1
Lost Conference Semifinals (Magic) 4–2[43] — Phil Jackson
1995–96 Eastern 1st Central 1st 72 10 .878 — Won First Round (Heat) 3–0
Won Conference Semifinals (Knicks) 4–1
Won Conference Finals (Magic) 4–0
Won NBA Finals (SuperSonics) 4–2[44] Michael Jordan
(MVP, FMVP, AMVP)
Phil Jackson (COY)
Jerry Krause (EOY)
Toni Kukoč (SIX)
[7][45] Phil Jackson
1996–97 Eastern 1st Central 1st 69 13 .841 — Won First Round (Bullets) 3–0
Won Conference Semifinals (Hawks) 4–1
Won Conference Finals (Heat) 4–1
Won NBA Finals (Jazz) 4–2[46] Michael Jordan
(FMVP)[7] Phil Jackson
1997–98 Eastern 1st Central 1st 62 20 .756 — Won First Round (Nets) 3–0
Won Conference Semifinals (Hornets) 4–1
Won Conference Finals (Pacers) 4–3
Won NBA Finals (Jazz) 4–2[47]

 

[CableandThanos]

He doesnt "bully ball" Tony Allen and Im supposed to believ he'll do that to Jordan?

lol, defenses make it hard to bully ball today than back in the day.

 

[CableandThanos]

Bullshit.

I can tell you as someone who watched the Bulls growing up and winning, Jordan carried that team all six years... much more valuable than Lebron.

Sure Pippen was good.. but not superstar status either. There were some other key role players like Grant and Rodman.... but Lebron had Wade and Bosh in Miami and has Love and Irving in Cleveland.. much better supporting cast.

I mean that whole super team circus says enough for me.

yep he carried them so much that when he left pippen carried to to just to more losses than they year before, lol.

 

[CableandThanos]

Its laughable that people always use the same dumb argument that Jordan would benefit greatly from current rules, but always completely ignore that Lebron is a physical beast and would have equal or greater benefits from the old rules...

also most people dont know what they are talking about when it comes to the rules. yes there are no hand checks anymore but you also can load up on one side and cheat and help more than back in the day. Why do people think they dont see players isolated on one side dribbling the ball and backing down their man like barkley and jordan and magic would do, becuase you can do that shit anymore. Back in the day defenders had to stay close to their player. so player could move to one side of the floor and the defenders had to go with them. Now a days they dont have to.

 

[berimBOWLoh]

ppl love to not mention that Jordan did it all in the most watered down expansion era the league has ever seen.

 

[Substance Abuse]

He would play defense and watch the Known Steroid User (have links to support this) brick shot after shot.

The Known Steroid User has an ATROCIOUS post game LMAO. If you ever played the beautiful game you would realize this LOL.

He's too streaky with his jumper and he has no post moves. He's just pure athleticism and strength. Jordan would finesse his ass all over that court while dropping far away after fade away. Jordan is a better ball handler as well in traffic. Again, Jordan is still the better on ball defender. This argument is still fucking dumb.