Social Kyle Rittenhouse updates

[grimballer]

Let me know once you’re done with the strawmen and maybe we can pick this back up.

Let me know when you ready to look at facts instead of pointlessly speculating

 

[nhbbear]

But in honesty you are doing what Is exactly the problem...you are letting your self declared bias form your conclusion.

we just all need to slow down . This media,President,pundits,talking heads have the whole country frothing at the mouth. Aren’t we all tired ?

See that’s the thing. I evaluated this from a neutral standpoint looking at whether, as the law is applied, if this was truly self defense. I came to the conclusion that it was

 

[Grenz]

Let me know when you ready to look at facts instead of pointlessly speculating

Absolutely, once all facts are available, I’ll definitely look at them, as opposed to stitching together a whole story based on 2 minutes of footage.

 

[grimballer]

Absolutely, once all facts are available, I’ll definitely look at them, as opposed to stitching together a whole story based on 2 minutes of footage.

Great! So until all facts are out it’s innocent until proven guilty

not “I’ll assume he had bad intentions and is guilty cause he had a gun on him”.

 

[luckyshot]

All if that can be true, and it still has nothing to do with the fact that protesters were trying to kill him and he was defending himself. What the country really doesn’t need, are the protesters continuing to murder and loot major cities. You guys keep saying Rittenhouse went down there looking for trouble, but say nothing about the trouble that’s there to find.

Rioting is bad.

M'kay?

I didn't really think that was in question.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

how did the police cause intentionally the confrontation?

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...unts-taken-down.4130236/page-4#post-161578705

 

[Grenz]

Great! So until all facts are out it’s innocent until proven guilty

not “I’ll assume he had bad intentions and is guilty cause he had a gun on him”.

Grim, this is a karate sub forum, not a court of a law. 50% of what goes on here any given day is speculation. Anyway...

Did I ever say I think the kid is guilty of murder? I don’t believe I did, and in any case, I don’t know what he is or isn’t guilty of (although that gun charge seems a pretty safe bet). That’s all I’m saying: we’re missing some crucial facts. And I’ll say it again: why does that trigger you guys so much? Why is it that I have to agree with you, or else I must be some leftist cuck who wants to defund the police and tear down statues? Sounds like the old “you’re either with us or against “ bullshit that was prevalent under Bush in the 2000’s.

 

[Fugazy]

Let me know when you ready to look at facts instead of pointlessly speculating

The 2 videos from Donut Operator are excellent. I was weary about watching them because of how super pro LEO that guys channel is, but he did a great job presenting more footage and background than anywhere else I’ve seen. I found his breakdowns were unbiased.

Kyle should be let off on all charges. It is a terrible situation. I wish we weren’t out here doing this to each other. It would have been better for everyone if none of this happened.

What I can’t understand is if the police are the problem, why not go after the police? Why destroy businesses and cause melees in residential areas?

 

[I Am Legion]

We know why the righties on this forum don't have a problem with this kid carrying an illegal gun across state lines to shoot folks, but they are not outraged by an unarmed man getting shot 7 times by cops.

There is a VERY clear reason why they have these thoughts.

Im no rightist but don’t let your lefty blinders blind you. He was armed with a knife, video shows it. He was a criminal that cops were called on because he was violating a protection order of a woman he previously beat up. He clearly went to the car to get something after disobeying cops. Stop defending a piece of shit that beats and sexually assaults women, and disobeys cops. This is not George Floyd incident.

 

[MaxMMA]

It's hilarious that people want this kid to be prosecuted. Even if he did cross state lines with a weapon, who gives a shit? He did it to clean up trash/graffiti and protect that community from violence and property damage. A couple of people (who more than likely are involved in the destruction of that community) decided they had a problem with that and tried to kill him, he took out of the trash and you clowns are upset?

Some of you really have bought into this whole no police, we can all live in peace and harmony BS, and I guess a lot of you believe that people should be able to walk around doing whatever they want with no consequences for their actions. Hopefully this young man demonstrated to you fine people that no, you cannot just walk around doing whatever you want to do. Thats not how life works, grown up please.

 

[Confucamus]

Rioting is bad.

M'kay?

I didn't really think that was in question.

Except it’s a little worse than bad. People are dying and there are millions of dollars in damage across the country. The protestors are extreme and we should not be surprised when there are extreme reactions. You can go on and on about how Rittenhouse didn’t need to be there, but you don’t get to ignore why he was there.

 

[grimballer]

Grim, this is a karate sub forum, not a court of a law. 50% of what goes on here any given day is speculation. Anyway...

Did I ever say I think the kid is guilty of murder? I don’t believe I did, and in any case, I don’t know what he is or isn’t guilty of (although that gun charge seems a pretty safe bet). That’s all I’m saying: we’re missing some crucial facts. And I’ll say it again: why does that trigger you guys so much? Why is it that I have to agree with you, or else I must be some leftist cuck who wants to defund the police and tear down statues? Sounds like the old “you’re either with us or against “ bullshit that was prevalent under Bush in the 2000’s.

Let me remind you how our interaction started here

you came at me telling me my analogy wasn’t good cause one was “reasonable to assume” and the other “wasn’t reasonable to assume”

so it’s not me telling you how to think. It’s you telling me.

Then you had your own analogy where having a gun is same as going to a predominantly black neighborhood with a hate slogan.

now the evidence we have so far (him running away, firing only once on the ground while attacked by the mob and stop shooting once he was up and no longer in any perceived danger) suggests it was self defence, which make your argument about his “intent” pointless.

Now it’s also funny you talk about 2000s GWB “you’re either with us or against us” ultimatum

Let me remind you it’s 2020 and that type of attitude is exclusively on “tolerant left” side

 

[luckyshot]

Except it’s a little worse than bad. People are dying and there are millions of dollars in damage across the country. The protestors are extreme and we should not be surprised when there are extreme reactions. You can go on and on about how Rittenhouse didn’t need to be there, but you don’t get to ignore why he was there.

I dont think I am. At all. I support legitimate use of force to quell rioting. Legitimate is the key word, though.

 

[ElKarlo]

How does a minor end up at a protest with a rifle? What was he doing there?

A friend gave him one. That's not illegal in Wisconsin.
Protest? Interesting description.
He was cleaning graffiti earlier that day. He was there to protect businesses from rioters.
Riots aren't immobile. I don't know how he was cut off and alone. That's still unknown.
So basically your argument is victim blaming at best

 

[HomeCheese]

No, I mean your English is so fucked up nobody could read what the hell you saying. Re-read that shit. Fuck, dude - I drunk post all the time but this garbage was unreadable. I was like, WTF is he saying here...

I know, I know, it's very confusing isn't it?

I am sure sooner or later you will make a post to actually advance the dialogue. I'm not holding my breath or anything but I'm sure you have it in you.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Good anyone who sucker punches a girl doesn't deserve sympathy

 

[Liquid Samurai]

The 2 videos from Donut Operator are excellent. I was weary about watching them because of how super pro LEO that guys channel is, but he did a great job presenting more footage and background than anywhere else I’ve seen. I found his breakdowns were unbiased.

Kyle should be let off on all charges. It is a terrible situation. I wish we weren’t out here doing this to each other. It would have been better for everyone if none of this happened.

What I can’t understand is if the police are the problem, why not go after the police? Why destroy businesses and cause melees in residential areas?

Because this actually has little to do with the police, and much more to do with destroying America and our way of life as we know it. In the name of "social justice" and it's a fucking scam.

 

[goldennirvana]

Good anyone who sucker punches a girl doesn't deserve sympathy

 

[Kandyland]

Don't insult third worlders.

17-year-olds with rifles strapped on out on the streets are universally condemned in Honduras and the DRC. Only in the US does half its population cheerfully support it.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

You should be glad that blue lives matter goon is off the street. High school drop out wanna be cops are terrible people. It's clear he had issues based on him attacking women and desperately wanting to be a cop and posting photos with his gun. Troubled individual with no father figure, very sad