Social Kyle Rittenhouse updates

[Fedorable]

the guy that was shot in the head was just grazed. He had a fatal bullet wound through the back.

 

[Grenz]

Moving the goal posts now, eh? Maybe you should focus more on what's known instead of making up something else that didn't happen.

Dead was chasing the kid down, and any honest person will agree it's almost certainly to administer a beating. We have no idea what level of violence that particular felon was going to engage in. A witness, and Kyle's lawyer, say was trying to take the gun after having him cornered. That adds up to self-defense. Do you have any actual facts that indicate otherwise?

Here’s the thing that you haven’t been able to grasp in the last 48 hours Cubo: you’re making a final decision based on 2 minutes of video footage. That’s not what’s going to decide the trial. There’ll be witness statements, lots of them. I don’t have all the facts, you don’t, and nobody else does at this point. So why do you guys keep pretending like the little evidence we have so far is all that is needed to make a call in this?

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

So what do you think, is it better that he went down there and shot people or would it have been better if he stayed home and the building was looted? I'm guessing he wishes he stayed home.

Having a child running around all strapped like that is a bad idea. If he wanted to help the community there is a million ways he could have done that didn't involve a rifle.

Since you mention it, who is causing the chaos?

The chaos is caused by those claiming to be up in arms over BLM shit. Sprinkle in some antifa commies and other volatile leftists. Add a dash of inaction by democratic leadership on the state and local level. Shaken, not stirred.

I'd rather there be dead criminals and good folk's businesses still standing, if that's the choice. Even better though would be government putting down these riots. But people like you will cry about tear gas and rubber bullets. So here we are.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Here’s the thing that you haven’t been able to grasp in the last 48 hours Cubo: you’re making a final decision based on 2 minutes of video footage. That’s not what’s going to decide the trial. There’ll be witness statements, lots of them. I don’t have all the facts, you don’t, and nobody else does at this point. So why do you guys keep pretending like the little evidence we have so far is all that is needed to make a call in this?

One of us is assessing based on known facts and the other is concocting scenarios based on zero evidence. When you've got a fact that contradicts self-defense let me know.

 

[tangata motu'a]

He could have gone and helped clean up graffiti next week if that's what he wanted to do. The last thing our country needs right now is vigilante mobs out clashing with rioters in the streets-- especially if those people are children.

so we just need the rioters then

 

[Grenz]

One of us is assessing based on known facts and the other is concocting scenarios based on zero evidence. When you've got a fact that contradicts self-defense let me know.

Same bud, when you’ve got all the facts that prove self defense beyond reasonable doubt, let me know.

 

[SanchoMF]

After seeing the videos, I still think there's a solid case for self defence for the kid.
And sincerely if there would be more armed citizens out there to protect the businesses I'm pretty sure there would be a lot less looting, arson and destruction of property.
I mean if no property is worth a human life, why risk your life to go looting?

 

[Staph infection]

Personally i don't give a flying fuck whether this 17 year old was or was not defending himself. I don't want to live in a State/Country where a child, because that's what a 17 year old is, gets to walk around with an automatic weapon strapped to their person. If i wanted that i'd move to Honduras or the Democratic Republic of Congo.Do the freepers who're cheering this shit on know how much of a slippery slope it is? Or do they simply not care?

We do NOT wan't to go down this route folks. It's a one way ticket to third worldville.

I'd rather have a kid that was trying to do good there than hordes of rioters who are destroying and burning down the city but if you feel safer with sexual predators and serial wife beaters running amok and burning down your city that is on you or maybe felons pretending to medics while concealing a gun its a better option.

Also it was not an automatic weapon, it was a rifle that can be used for self defense.

 

[My Spot]

Personally i don't give a flying fuck whether this 17 year old was or was not defending himself. I don't want to live in a State/Country where a child, because that's what a 17 year old is, gets to walk around with an automatic weapon strapped to their person. If i wanted that i'd move to Honduras or the Democratic Republic of Congo.Do the freepers who're cheering this shit on know how much of a slippery slope it is? Or do they simply not care?

We do NOT wan't to go down this route folks. It's a one way ticket to third worldville.

Automatic weapon, huh? <45>

 

[lifelessheap]

Now write how he got into that situation..

If he didnt do this, this kid would have probably ended in newspaper as a mass school shooter

Also lol at a 17 year old with a rifle "defending himself" - only in USA
USA becoming like brazil by the day

So we can't go outside anymore? Only rioters get to go outside? And if they attack someone it is the victims fault?


LoL, you heard it here folks. You can't go outside! You can't protect yourself! You can't fight back!

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Same bud, when you’ve got all the facts that prove self defense beyond reasonable doubt, let me know.

They're known.

• Grown man chasing 17 year old down for no possible reason than to engage in violence
• 17 year old runs away until cornered
• Grown man attempts to take 17 year old's self-defense weapon
• 17 year old shoots grown man

What else do you need to know? Even if Kyle called dead a manlet, it's still self-defense once he's exhausted his ability to avoid violent confrontation.

 

[Staph infection]

Kids are expected to be irresponsible, that's why we call them "kids." The adults that he was with and the police that were encouraging him need to be held accountable.

Yep, all the blame lands on this kid and the adults he was with. There is zero blame on the looters and rioters who burning down the city. It was their right to be out destroying the city. To think if the monster child had not been there those poor felons would still be alive where they could continue with their charitable work of destroying the city.

 

[HomeCheese]

The chaos is caused by those claiming to be up in arms over BLM shit. Sprinkle in some antifa commies and other volatile leftists. Add a dash of inaction by democratic leadership on the state and local level. Shaken, not stirred.

I'd rather there be dead criminals and good folk's businesses still standing, if that's the choice. Even better though would be government putting down these riots. But people like you will cry about tear gas and rubber bullets. So here we are.

We're all the people he shot criminals or committing a criminal act that would justify being shot?

People like you cheer on kids strappedAF shooting "criminals". I get it.

When have complained about tear gas or rubber bullets?

 

[Grenz]

They're known.

• Grown man chasing 17 year old down for no possible reason than to engage in violence
• 17 year old runs away until cornered
• Grown man attempts to take 17 year old's self-defense weapon
• 17 year old shoots grown man

What else do you need to know? Even if Kyle called dead a manlet, it's still self-defense once he's exhausted his ability to avoid violent confrontation.

We can go around in circles. To you, the above is apparently enough to cast final judgement. To me, it isn’t.

 

[Stoic1]

We're all the people he shot criminals or committing a criminal act that would justify being shot?

People like you cheer on kids strappedAF shooting "criminals". I get it.

When have complained about tear gas or rubber bullets?

Re-read this shit.

I dare you to make less sense.

 

[luckyshot]

so we just need the rioters then

No, we need the police to do their jobs. And if they can't handle a situation, the Governor should be calling in the National Guard. There is a chain of command and hierarchy involved in use of legitimate force. Nowhere in that chain of command should be "17 year old kid from another state who decides to help out."

The point that a lot of people are missing is this: a secure, stable, civil society relies on the STATE maintaining a monopoly on the use of legitimate force. Anyone who challenges this monopoly-- whether rioter or vigilante-- is, ultimately, weakening the stability of the society.

 

[funcrusher2007]

Fair enough. But these cases are racing by at light speed. Each side is trying to scream louder than the other in regard to their talking points. In the end, I have bias against antifa and the rioters-no question about that, but I also will not back what I think is a wrong move or bad horse. What sealed this one for me was if you take away age, which is just a number-whose actions are more reasonable?

But in honesty you are doing what Is exactly the problem...you are letting your self declared bias form your conclusion.

we just all need to slow down . This media,President,pundits,talking heads have the whole country frothing at the mouth. Aren’t we all tired ?

 

[Officer Rick]

No, we need the police to do their jobs. And if they can't handle a situation, the Governor should be calling in the National Guard. There is a chain of command and hierarchy involved in use of legitimate force. Nowhere in that chain of command should be "17 year old kid from another state who decides to help out."

The point that a lot of people are missing is this: a secure, stable, civil society relies on the STATE maintaining a monopoly on the use of legitimate force. Anyone who challenges this monopoly-- whether rioter or vigilante-- is, ultimately, weakening the stability of the society.

 

[thehighking]

Kyle Rittenhouse is like Nick Sandmann. Both guilty by the media before all the evidence is looked at.

And when you look at the evidence it's clear he was being chased and attacked by a mob. He had no choice but to defend himself. He actually showed a lot of restraint and didn't shoot anyone until the actual moment they attacked him.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

We're all the people he shot criminals or committing a criminal act that would justify being shot?

People like you cheer on kids strappedAF shooting "criminals". I get it.

When have complained about tear gas or rubber bullets?

They were all felons and engaging in criminal activity at the time they were shot.

You're right, I don't know for a fact you've criticized riot control efforts. I just assumed.

Meet at Tommy Bahamas at noon?

We can go around in circles. To you, the above is apparently enough to cast final judgement. To me, it isn’t.

You were using your imagination earlier. What potential fact would make the known facts no longer add up to self-defense? Because whatever was said between the two earlier won't change the fact Kyle, based on running away, had established his right to defend himself with force.