ko's in mma are overrated

[MMAATHLETE]

ts you might want to rethink this thread?

 

[Soul Slasher**]

Why are you bringing boxing into this discussion?

Boxing is not the sport of fighting. Boxing is the sport of limiting combat only to the use of fists, putting comically large gloves on those fists, and standing around giving a guy the chance to recover any time he falls down.

Here we go...

Boxing is the sport of fighting with hands. How many MMA fights have ended with it only being a Boxing match?

MMA is limited combat too. The rules favors the wrestlers, and there is many moves banned which would be effective in a street fight.

You talking about their gloves being "comically large" shows how you are a basement dwelling couch head who has never train. Tell Overeem how comically those gloves are and ask him to punch you in the face with them on.

 

[Soul Slasher**]

You could throw me in a ring with the world's greatest roshambo champion, and he could kick me in the balls until I die screaming. Still wouldn't make it the sport of fighting.

Boxing is part of MMA. Many MMA fights have ended with it only being a Boxing match or just from punches being thrown.

Roshambo is not part of MMA and kicking in the nuts is banned in all legal combat sports world wide.

 

[Soul Slasher**]

He obviously means that MMA is a closer approximation of a NHB "real world" fight, and he's correct. Just put any top pure boxing guy against a top MMA guy with no rules and you'll realize this pretty quickly.

50 year old washed up Ray Mercer KOed a top ten MMA fighter in ten seconds.

What's your point?

 

[mattf]

This title could not be justfied with any wording, just not true.

 

[Soul Slasher**]

There's really not much more to say. Cain is my favorite HW but this is true. Also the reason that most people are drawn to MMA over boxing is simply the fact that MMA more closely resembles a "real fight" where boxing is the farthest thing from it.

So are you saying that MMA fights which only ends with it being just a Boxing fight or with punches being thrown is far from being an actual fight?

By your logic then, MMA is the farthest thing from being a fight. How many street fights ends with punches being thrown?

I don't get the insecure reaction people manifest on here when Boxing is mention. If the TS was talking about a K-1 match instead, people would be holding hands agreeing with him. It's pathetic.

 

[Ceez]

So are you saying that MMA fights which only ends with it being just a Boxing fight or with punches being thrown is far from being an actual fight?

By your logic then, MMA is the farthest thing from being a fight. How many street fights ends with punches being thrown?

I don't get the insecure reaction people manifest on here when Boxing is mention. If the TS was talking about a K-1 match instead, people would be holding hands agreeing with him. It's pathetic.

You obviously can't think outside the box. MMA is more like a fight because you can pretty much do everything. You can wrestle, submissions, various striking etc etc. Can you do any of those in boxing? No so MMA more reflects what would happen in a real fight on the street where anything goes (obviously MMA has rules).

As far as people being pathetic, yes I would completely agree, but you're the first in line:icon_chee

 

[Soul Slasher**]

cool, makes sense...that's your OPINION btw

and boxing is alot further from real fighting than MMA is...bbj is all you need to defeat a boxer, wrestling nullifies it too

Considering your sig mentions as Anderson Silva being GOAT and he has ended several MMA matches with it just being a Boxing match or that he has Pro Boxing experience, it basically shows how stupid one ended up sounding when they let their bias perception and hate towards something get the best of them.

Since many MMA matches has ended with it just being a boxing match, then you are basically saying that MMA is far from fighting. And btw, you need alot more than just BJJ to beat a Boxer. You need athleticism and speed to even catch a faster Boxer than you. And one won;t be going for a single leg takedown in a crowded bar or street on concrete.

You should get out the basement more.

 

[Soul Slasher**]

You obviously can't think outside the box. MMA is more like a fight because you can pretty much do everything. You can wrestle, submissions, various striking etc etc. Can you do any of those in boxing? No so MMA more reflects what would happen in a real fight on the street where anything goes (obviously MMA has rules).

As far as people being pathetic, yes I would completely agree, but you're the first in line:icon_chee

LOL I am thinking outside the box. Any fool can belittle Boxing and say MMA is the only supreme form of fighting. How common is it with Boxing haters to say what you're saying? To think otherwise and go against the grain of Boxing haters caught in the "Boxing vs MMA" war is clearly one thinking outside the box.

And LOL @ you saying "MMA is more like a fight because you can pretty much do everything". No you can't. You cannot bite, hit the groin, eye gouge, hair pull, hit the kidneys or back of head, stomp, kick a down opponent, knee an opponent on the ground, stay on the ground as long as you can without stalling, etc etc etc.

MMA is a regulated sport which is control by circumstances and regulation. It is far from it being a street fight. Especially with the rules favoring wrestlers, something even many hardcore MMA fans themselves admit to.

I can agree that MMA is closer to a street fight than Boxing due to it's dynamic. But saying Boxing is the farthest thing from a "real fight" is beyond retarded when in fact many MMA fights or street fights ends with it being just a Boxing match.

 

[Ceez]

LOL I am thinking outside the box. Any fool can belittle Boxing and say MMA is the only supreme form of fighting. How common is it with Boxing haters to say what you're saying? To think otherwise and go against the grain of Boxing haters caught in the "Boxing vs MMA" war is clearly one thinking outside the box.

And LOL @ you saying "MMA is more like a fight because you can pretty much do everything". No you can't. You cannot bite, hit the groin, eye gouge, hair pull, hit the kidneys or back of head, stomp, kick a down opponent, knee an opponent on the ground, stay on the ground as long as you can without stalling, etc etc etc.

MMA is a regulated sport which is control by circumstances and regulation. It is far from it being a street fight. Especially with the rules favoring wrestlers, something even many hardcore MMA fans themselves admit to.

I can agree that MMA is closer to a street fight than Boxing due to it's dynamic. But saying Boxing is the farthest thing from a "real fight" is beyond retarded when in fact many MMA fights or street fights ends with it being just a Boxing match.

Boxing is the farthest thing from a real fight. I would put my money on a wrestler all day over a boxer. Why...because a boxer is like a turtle, once he's on his back he's screwed. You can think whatever you want to be honest, I don't give a fuck one way or the other. Boxing is a great combat sport but MMA is where it's at

 

[Soul Slasher**]

Boxing is the farthest thing from a real fight.

And again, going by that logic, MMA is the furthest thing from a fight too because many MMA matches has ended with it just being a Boxing fight. Same with street fights.

Now you sound like mentally challenged person repeating the same thing.

What is funny is that you won't see a guy going for a single leg takedown or dive for a ankle pick or pull guard in a crowded bar or street. But yet when that infamous brawl happened in England that involved MMA fighters, it was mainly Liddell knocking dudes out with PUNCHES while Tito Ortiz got KO by Lee Murray in a bare knuckle Boxing match. Or Don Frye getting drop by a punch from Sonny Westbrook.

Then on Youtube you see several videos of guys defending themselves against mutiple attackers with just BOXING. But hey by your logic, it's better to got for takedowns against multiple attackers right?

I would put my money on a wrestler all day over a boxer. Why...because a boxer is like a turtle, once he's on his back he's screwed.

Of course you would. You hate Boxing. But in a street fight were punches are usually the first thing thrown, and being that you won't see single leg takedowns, guard pulling or low ankle picks in a crowded bar/street, or being that Mercer knock out Sylvia, La Fever knock out Radach and Jeremy Williams knock out a wrestle, I can your probablity is far bfrom it being 100% accurate. Sure a Boxer may end up on hie back and be screw, but fights always start on the feet.

 

[Ceez]

And again, going by that logic, MMA is the furthest thing from a fight too because many MMA matches has ended with it just being a street fight.

Now you sund like mentally challenged person repeating the same thing.

What is funny is that you won't see a guy going for a single leg takedown or dive for a ankle pick or pull guard in a crowded bar or street. But yet when that infamouys brawl happened in England that involved MMA fighters, it was mainly Liddell knocking dudes out with PUNCHES while Tito Ortiz got KO by Lee Murray in a Boxing brawl. Or Don Frye getting drop by a punch from Sonny Westbrook.

Then on Youtube you see several videos of guys defending themselves against mutiple attackers with just BOXING.

But hey by your logic, it's better to got for takedowns against multiple attackers right?




Of course you would. You hate Boxing. But in a street fight were punches are usually the first thing thrown, and being that you won't see single leg takedowns or low ankle picks in a crowded bar, or being that Mercer knock out Sylvia, La Fever knock out Radach and Jeremy Williams knock out a wrestle. I guess your approximate probablity of picking the changes as 100% is way off.

Yeah I hate boxing, you know me. Only thing you know is your blind love for something that is dying. You want to talk about boxers and MMA's fighting, I would bet that 99% of the MMA champs vs the Boxing champs would mop the floor with them. There are certainly more aspects to MMA which brings it closer to that of a real fight period. SOrry that you don't get that. Talk about mentally challenged.

 

[Soul Slasher**]

Yeah I hate boxing, you know me. Only thing you know is your blind love for something that is dying. You want to talk about boxers and MMA's fighting, I would bet that 99% of the MMA champs vs the Boxing champs would mop the floor with them. There are certainly more aspects to MMA which brings it closer to that of a real fight period. SOrry that you don't get that. Talk about mentally challenged.

LOL And thus the true colors comes out. Anyone reference Boxing as a "dying sport" and trying to use it in an angry manner to try and belittle a fan is basically a hater basing their argument out of bias dislike and pure stupidity.

The funny thing I love both MMA and Boxing. I am the same way with Boxing fans who says that MMA is "gay porn". You are no different than them.

But thanks for clarifying your hate though. TOO OBVIOUS. MMA fighters that train and respect Boxing says otherwise.

Btw, Boxing is still garnering over 1 million PPV buys. UFC hasn't been able to pull in over 1 million buys since a certain WWE wrestler left. Boxing has a wider range of demographics than MMA does. Latinos, South Americans, Europeans, American white males from certain age ranges, blacks, people from major cities. Boxing has offically now overtaken MMA in Japan as the more popular combat sport. Many boxers still fill up Soccer stadiums in Europe with over 50,000 fans. Boxing garners high ratings on HBO and Showtime. Boxing sells out Madison Square Garden, Something Zuffa is fighting to get at. The Marquez KO of Pac Man was talked about by everybody world wide and their grandmother.

Yup, Boxing is dying all right. Go to a Boxing board and I would own a MMA hater the same way too.

 

[Ceez]

LOL And thus the true colors comes out. Anyone reference Boxing as a "dying sport" and trying to use it in an angry manner to try and belittle a fan is basically a hater basing their argument out of bias dislike and pure stupidity.

The funny thing I love both MMA and Boxing. I am the same way with Boxing fans who says that MMA is "gay porn". You are no different than them.

But thanks for clarifying your hate though. TOO OBVIOUS. MMA fighters that train and respect Boxing says otherwise.

Btw, Boxing is still garnering over 1 million PPV buys. UFC hasn't been able to pull in over 1 million buys since a certain WWE wrestler left. Boxing has a wider range of demographics than MMA does. Latinos, South Americans, Europeans, American white males from certain age ranges, blacks, people from major cities. Boxing has offically now overtaken MMA in Japan as the more popular combat sport. Many boxers still fill up Soccer stadiums in Europe with over 50,000 fans. Boxing garners high ratings on HBO and Showtime. Boxing sells out Madison Square Garden, Something Zuffa is fighting to get at. The Marquez KO of Pac Man was talked about by everybody world wide and their grandmother.

Yup, Boxing is dying all right. Go to a Boxing board and I would own a MMA hater the same way too.

Again you can think whatever you want and try and twist my comments into what you want them to mean to justify your stupid ass argument, typical woman type shit because that's what women do but you have no idea what the fuck I think or how I mean anything. The fact is you're butthurt because you're wrong and will go to any length to discredit what I'm saying even if it means twisting my words into what you need them to be. I'm not bias, shit I grew up on boxing, and I have it in my background along with wrestling and BJJ, but it is what it is and I see it how I see it. Boxing in no way looks like a real fight, most of the fights I have been in or have witnessed go to the ground-happens all the time in boxing though right? Later on lady, I'm going to go beat my wife now:icon_chee

 

[Soul Slasher**]

Again you can think whatever you want and try and twist my comments into what you want them to mean to justify your stupid ass argument typical woman type shit because that's what women do but you have no idea what the fuck I think or how I mean anything. The fact is you're butthurt because you're wrong and will go to any length to discredit what I'm saying even if it means twisting my words into what you need them to be. I'm not bias, shit I grew up on boxing, and I have it in my background along with wrestling and BJJ, but it is what it is and I see it how I see it. Boxing in no way looks like a real fight, most of the fights I have been in or have witnessed go to the ground-happens all the time in boxing though right? Later on lady, I'm going to go beat my wife now:icon_chee

lYou said this:

Only thing you know is your blind love for something that is dying.

That is basically you admitting that you hate Boxing and is still caught up in the "Boxing vs MMA" war like a puppet. I guess you are too mentally handicap to realize what you said. Than you go on angrily ranting about how MMA fighters would beat Boxers. What does that have to do with anything? Only insecure MMA chicks would talk like that.

I posted examples involving actual MMA fighters involved in street fights that ended only with it being bareknuckle boxing fights. Same with MMA fights including Rampage vs Liddell 2, JDS va Cain, Anderson Silva vs Forrest, Mercer vs Sylvia, La Fever vs Radach, Belfort vs many opponents, Liddell vs Couture 2, Frye in his first MMA debut, Alex Emelienanko vs Thompson and Morais, Arlovski vs Buentello, Arlovski vs Sergie, Sergie vs Overeem 2, Fedor vs Zulu,BJ Penn vs Nick Diaz, Diaz vs Noons 2, Diaz vs Daley....

Want me to continue?

And LOL @ You using examples of drunk people getting into fights where none of them even knows how to throw a decent punch. At least I used examples of MMA fighters in street fights. The funny thing here is how hypocritical you haters are. Because when a wrestler does use his wrestling as his main strategy of winning fight (including lay and pray) than you morons bitch about how they are boring and want to see rules force them to not use as much wrestling. You boo a wrestler for going for takedowns but then boo James Toney for trying to do what you morons usually want to see a MMA fighter do anyways, which is to see a fighter knock someone out.

LOL!!!

 

[Gotosleepho]

It's easier to get knocked out in MMA for sure. If you mean that just because one fighter knocked out the other in the first fight that the result can't be different the second time you're probably correct.

 

[Chernabog]

You stopped lurking to post such tripe?

 

[effedup]

I did read the post but you should change the title

KO's being overrated is like saying a game winning 3-point shot is just so so.

Sure it doesn't mean Cain will KTFO again but he will lol.

 

[bongnatas]

Considering your sig mentions as Anderson Silva being GOAT and he has ended several MMA matches with it just being a Boxing match or that he has Pro Boxing experience, it basically shows how stupid one ended up sounding when they let their bias perception and hate towards something get the best of them.

Since many MMA matches has ended with it just being a boxing match, then you are basically saying that MMA is far from fighting. And btw, you need alot more than just BJJ to beat a Boxer. You need athleticism and speed to even catch a faster Boxer than you. And one won;t be going for a single leg takedown in a crowded bar or street on concrete.

You should get out the basement more.

go fuck yourself, you don't know me...I'm not bias towards boxing, just stating facts...if you think Anderson wins fights just using boxing you're an idiot...it's fucking MMA, his stance etc is not traditional boxing

when I have been in street fights before (you know, real fighting) I used alot mor than just boxing to win, get it? I'm not anti-boxing or whatever you think, I just don't think you need to be a good boxer to win a fight...and if one is smart they WILL go for a fucking takedown on concrete, it's a great way to end a fight...

so in the future, save your lameass insults okay? last time I checked, it was okay to have an opinion on a forum

 

[CrazyN8]

I could stand a KO or two more tonight, just saying.