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News Khabib statement on plane debacle

Cobra 03 said:
Boo Hoo, I hope Khabib's feeling weren't hurt. If I was on a airline and a Muslim looking guy was sitting by the emergency exit and was causing a problem, I wouldn't be comfortable either. Sorry to say, but that's the world we live in now. Who is it that wants to kill Westerners for the last 20-30 years [or more]? Muslims. Who just killed 14 innocent people in New Orleans? A muslim. I know 95% of Muslims are peaceful, decent people, but that other 5% hates us. Sorry Khabib, that's just the way it it now.
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Well, Westerners want to kill Muslims more than the other way around.... as evidenced by the fact that Westerns have killed 1000x time more Muslims than the Muslims have killed Westerners.

You're right though about the planes. Muslims tend to go for planes, while white Western terrorists prefer the more noble objective of shooting up schools full of kindergarten students and such.
 
My take, based on Frontier Airline's latest statement, which sounds feasible:

Khabib's ego prevented him from coming to terms with the fact that he didn't understand what the flight attendant was saying to him. He was asked several times - in airline language speak, which is not simple English - if he was willing to assist passengers in case of an emergency. He didn't understand, and was not going to lose face in front of his friends by admitting that he didn't understand. So he kept silent. At some point, the flight attendant determined that Khabib's English would not be good enough to play a key role in an emergency evacuation. So they followed protocol, and asked him to change seats. He did not comply. So, he got kicked off.

It was not racial. It was not because he was wearing a hoodie. It was because Khabib's English failed him, and because he didn't comply to change seats, which would have been no big deal as a Las Vegas/LA flight is only slighlty more than an hour long.
 
Cobra 03 said:
Boo Hoo, I hope Khabib's feeling weren't hurt. If I was on a airline and a Muslim looking guy was sitting by the emergency exit and was causing a problem, I wouldn't be comfortable either. Sorry to say, but that's the world we live in now. Who is it that wants to kill Westerners for the last 20-30 years [or more]? Muslims. Who just killed 14 innocent people in New Orleans? A muslim. I know 95% of Muslims are peaceful, decent people, but that other 5% hates us. Sorry Khabib, that's just the way it it now.
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this is exactly what they imposing and guys like you are buying it.
lol at muslim looking guy at emergency exit makes you afraid.

what can a muslim guy do by sitting at emergency exit ? do you know that those windows can't be open during the flight ?
instead blaming others blame yourself. you admit that you do judge people according to their look and that is called racism
 
This is insignificant how this story blow up so much?

He got profiled like Alex Pereira did when he was walking through that store and the security was following him. Nobody gave a shit about that.
 
Leonard Haid said:
My take, based on Frontier Airline's latest statement, which sounds feasible:

Khabib's ego prevented him from coming to terms with the fact that he didn't understand what the flight attendant was saying to him. He was asked several times - in airline language speak, which is not simple English - if he was willing to assist passengers in case of an emergency. He didn't understand, and was not going to lose face in front of his friends by admitting that he didn't understand. So he kept silent. At some point, the flight attendant determined that Khabib's English would not be good enough to play a key role in an emergency evacuation. So they followed protocol, and asked him to change seats. He did not comply. So, he got kicked off.

It was not racial. It was not because he was wearing a hoodie. It was because Khabib's English failed him, and because he didn't comply to change seats, which would have been no big deal as a Las Vegas/LA flight is only slighlty more than an hour long.
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Yeah, either that or Khabib understood her just fine and was giving her attitude by not responding. I'm not all with all of this identity and language barrier stuff; there was no reason to believe it had anything to do with him being Muslim. If they had asked him multiple times, and he was playing games, I don't blame them for kicking him off. The flight attendant is setting firm limits with him in the video because that is her job; plane safety is serious shit. That's what they do to everyone, no reason he should be special.

The video is carefully edited to avoid us seeing Khabib's behavior before and after. He appears unreasonably uncooperative in the part we do see, so I'm thinking this was his pattern.
 
joy2day said:
Yeah, either that or Khabib understood her just fine and was giving her attitude by not responding. I'm not all with all of this identity and language barrier stuff; there was no reason to believe it had anything to do with him being Muslim. If they had asked him multiple times, and he was playing games, I don't blame them for kicking him off. The flight attendant is setting firm limits with him in the video because that is her job; plane safety is serious shit. That's what they do to everyone, no reason he should be special.

The video is carefully edited to avoid us seeing Khabib's behavior before and after. He appears unreasonably uncooperative in the part we do see, so I'm thinking this was his pattern.
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Look at his history of interacting with women. Then put two and two together.

He probably saw her as someone beneath him who had no right to even speak to him let alone give him orders.

His ego caused him not to take a different seat and rather get booted off the plane.

There is ABSOLUTELY no basis for racism or profiling either. He is a WHITE MALE ffs. Nobody outside of UFC fans even knows he is a fucking muslim. I can guarantee you 99% of average americans would never even have guessed he was a muslim.

Was he wearing a burka or hijab or whatever the male equivalent is?! NO. Was he speaking arabic? NO.

He was dressed in a hoodie and wearing a man purse which is the dress code for a typical chav from Europe.

I can guarantee you his follow-up tweet was made by that rat fuck Ali abdelasleez, trying to play the anti muslim/racism card. The same rat fuck thats got a history of doing things related to planes and airlines. ;)
 
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Rio Ferdinand said:
Look at his history of interacting with women. Then put two and two together.

He probably saw her as someone beneath him who had no right to even speak to him let alone give him orders.

His ego caused him not to take a different seat and rather get booted off the plane.

There is ABSOLUTELY no basis for racism or profiling either. He is a WHITE MALE ffs. Nobody outside of UFC fans even knows he is a fucking muslim. I can guarantee you 99% of average americans would never even have guessed he was a muslim.

Was he wearing a burka or hijab or whatever the male equivalent is?! NO. Was he speaking arabic? NO.

He was dressed in a hoodie and wearing a man purse which is the dress code for a typical chav from Europe.

I can guarantee you his follow-up tweet was made by that rat fuck Ali abdelasleez, trying to play the anti muslim/racism card. The same rat fuck thats got a history of doing things related to planes and airlines. ;)
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Whether Khabib is white genetically is irrelevant. Do you think people cannot tell if Persians, Arabs, or Turks are Muslim either even if they have white skin? It's like saying no one can ever tell if someone is latino if they are white. Khabib has genetic features that suggest he is not from the 'West', and he grooms himself in a way more similar to that of the Near East on top of that.

As for whether that was the reason Khabib was asked to move, I have no idea since I have no idea what happened before the video starts. But I have no idea why someone would ask him to move. If it's just because he speaks English with an accent, then that is peculiar as that is pretty common on flights. I sure as hell have never seen it and I fly all the time.

If Khabib couldn't speak a word of English that would seem like a possibility. But a second language speaker is probably some type of racial profiling. Can't really imagine a white German guy with a thick ass accent being asked to move.
 
dont think the ones defending the flight attendant know, that on-board employees can be aware all the names of every single passenger in their seat via a slip they are presented to identify them. therefore not knowing if Khabib is a Muslim or not is not an argument given his very eastern name not to mention his facial features themselves for educated ppl are aware that a large population of muslims, are not necessarily dark skinned. clutching at straws here.


or that they work for @FlyFrontier
 
Doctor Grudge said:
Whether Khabib is white genetically is irrelevant. Do you think people cannot tell if Persians, Arabs, or Turks are Muslim either even if they have white skin? It's like saying no one can ever tell if someone is latino if they are white. Khabib has genetic features that suggest he is not from the 'West', and he grooms himself in a way more similar to that of the Near East on top of that.

As for whether that was the reason Khabib was asked to move, I have no idea since I have no idea what happened before the video starts. But I have no idea why someone would ask him to move. If it's just because he speaks English with an accent, then that is peculiar as that is pretty common on flights. I sure as hell have never seen it and I fly all the time.

If Khabib couldn't speak a word of English that would seem like a possibility. But a second language speaker is probably some type of racial profiling. Can't really imagine a white German guy with a thick ass accent being asked to move.
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Except Khabib could have been a lot of things. There was no way of telling he wasn't a lot of other religions/ethnicities; there is nothing tell-tale about his looks indicating he is Muslim. A lot of Hindu people and even Arabic Christians have a similar look to Khabib. Looking like you are from another area of the world does NOT mean "Muslim."

They also will ask ANYONE sitting in that seat if they are capable of helping in the event of an emergency, and if they don't respond adequately, they will ask them to move (I've been asked the same thing when I was in that seat). It wasn't a case of them denying him a good seat; he was obligated to take part in the safety protocol if he took the seat he was in.
 
This is what it looks like when instead of admitting someone did something wrong people double down on it.

It's hilarious that not only does the airline charge you extra for those seats, you also have to work for them too. Would everyone prefer only short, fat unassuming white grandmothers be seated in those seats because they look or sound less threatening?

he flight attendant 100% knew his name (at the very least) before she approached him, it's part of their job. Beyond that... It's safer to address people by name rather than gender or assumed pronouns today, right?

I have met a great many foreign people who understand English very well but have simply have difficulties responding in perfect English. Just saying. That does not make them incapable. Did Khabib fail the multiple choice or written essay part? I have sat in those very same seats more than once (albeit not Frontier). I was asked if I could help if needed, and all I had to say was yes. Wasn't interrogated or questioned if I was qualified to. Land of the free... but only if you speak perfect English?

Ever have one of those moments where two people meet/see each other and for whatever reason... that even without speaking... those two people instantly don't like each for no real reason or cause? Maybe Khabib looks like her stepdaddy. Maybe the FA reminds him of one of his girlfriends who fucked his brother. This just might be that and it escalated.
 
Literally seen people moved from the emergency row on half the flights I've ever been on. You either move where they tell you to move, or you get removed. This is a nothing burger.
 
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