News Khabib statement on plane debacle

PeterGriffin said:
Ever have one of those moments where two people meet/see each other and for whatever reason... that even without speaking... those two people instantly don't like each for no real reason or cause? Maybe Khabib looks like her stepdaddy. Maybe the FA reminds him of one of his girlfriends who fucked his brother. This just might be that and it escalated.
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Yeah.

Or it's Khabib acting all high and mighty.

I don't dislike Khabib, he's a great fighter. But he's not looking good here. He's got literally no solid argument for not changing seats.
 
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and why is it a debacle? everyone hates air travel. everyone on a plane is miserable and just trying to get where they need to go. just move to a different seat, guy
 
Leinster Rugby said:
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Khabib Breaks Silence Following Removal From Flight To L.A.

Find out what former UFC champion Khabib Nurmagomedov had to say about his recent spat with Frontier Airlines.
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He feels he was subjected to Tyron Woodley levels of racism...

Seriously though it does sound like he was treated quite badly.
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Frontier airlines suck. I took them back in September to go to the One Denver event in Colorado and you definitely get what you pay for since they're the cheapest
 
C0NCH3TO said:
Flying sucks and flight atentands/customer service people are mostly assholes who hate their job. I love to know new places but loathe going to the airport and having to deal with these tsa and airline jerkoffs.
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Flying in other parts of the world you get this less than you do with US airports and with American, United, Delta etc

Cathay Pacific, Qatar, Etihad etc tend to be great airlines and their air hostesses don't treat you like scum for merely wanting a beverage or whatever
 
PeterGriffin said:
This is what it looks like when instead of admitting someone did something wrong people double down on it.

It's hilarious that not only does the airline charge you extra for those seats, you also have to work for them too. Would everyone prefer only short, fat unassuming white grandmothers be seated in those seats because they look or sound less threatening?

he flight attendant 100% knew his name (at the very least) before she approached him, it's part of their job. Beyond that... It's safer to address people by name rather than gender or assumed pronouns today, right?

I have met a great many foreign people who understand English very well but have simply have difficulties responding in perfect English. Just saying. That does not make them incapable. Did Khabib fail the multiple choice or written essay part? I have sat in those very same seats more than once (albeit not Frontier). I was asked if I could help if needed, and all I had to say was yes. Wasn't interrogated or questioned if I was qualified to. Land of the free... but only if you speak perfect English?

Ever have one of those moments where two people meet/see each other and for whatever reason... that even without speaking... those two people instantly don't like each for no real reason or cause? Maybe Khabib looks like her stepdaddy. Maybe the FA reminds him of one of his girlfriends who fucked his brother. This just might be that and it escalated.
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F off

Never in my life has a flight attendant known my name or addressed me with it, except maybe the odd occasion of reading it off my ticket as I board

And yeh, I've sat in those seats and they've never known me from Adam
 
I'd be pissed off also if I was stuck flying on Frontier. God, I feel sorry for him. No wonder why he didn't comply, he wanted off the plane like everyone else.
 
joy2day said:
Yeah, either that or Khabib understood her just fine and was giving her attitude by not responding. I'm not all with all of this identity and language barrier stuff; there was no reason to believe it had anything to do with him being Muslim. If they had asked him multiple times, and he was playing games, I don't blame them for kicking him off. The flight attendant is setting firm limits with him in the video because that is her job; plane safety is serious shit. That's what they do to everyone, no reason he should be special.

The video is carefully edited to avoid us seeing Khabib's behavior before and after. He appears unreasonably uncooperative in the part we do see, so I'm thinking this was his pattern.
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There is a longer video that is uploaded, where other passengers begin defending khabib. one mentions that the original flight attendant that spoke to khabib spoke very fast and what she said did not sound like a question but rather a statement. it sounds that is likely why khabib did not initially respond.

these are random passengers on the plane defending him, and he also handled the entire situation pretty calmly. i feel this story is very believable.


i dont think the video is "carefully edited". no one recorded the initial interaction with the flight attendant that gave the initial instructions, because why the hell would they be.
 
BJ@LW&WW said:
There is a longer video that is uploaded, where other passengers begin defending khabib. one mentions that the original flight attendant that spoke to khabib spoke very fast and what she said did not sound like a question but rather a statement. it sounds that is likely why khabib did not initially respond.

these are random passengers on the plane defending him, and he also handled the entire situation pretty calmly. i feel this story is very believable.


i dont think the video is "carefully edited". no one recorded the initial interaction with the flight attendant that gave the initial instructions, because why the hell would they be.
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All of that seems plausible and I can believe it. At the end of the day you know what I would have done?

"Oh my bad I thought you were making a statement and I didn't know it was question. Just let me know where to move to and we can move on.". It's that simple. In no way shape or form am I getting off the plane over such a simple misunderstanding. You have to understand flight attendants\staff listen to each other over anything on that plane. It's not a democracy. They have to have that level of trust with each other. Yes there will be mistakes like presumably what happened here with Khabib but it's the system they use. As customers with very little rights we just need to accept it and more importantly be adults about it.
 
method115 said:
All of that seems plausible and I can believe it. At the end of the day you know what I would have done?

"Oh my bad I thought you were making a statement and I didn't know it was question. Just let me know where to move to and we can move on.". It's that simple. In no way shape or form am I getting off the plane over such a simple misunderstanding. You have to understand flight attendants\staff listen to each other over anything on that plane. It's not a democracy. They have to have that level of trust with each other. Yes there will be mistakes like presumably what happened here with Khabib but it's the system they use. As customers with very little rights we just need to accept it and more importantly be adults about it.
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i agree the situation likely could have been avoided by both parties if handled differently. but de-escalating in your non-native language might not be as easy as it is for someone who is speaking their native tongue, particularly when youre not expecting any form of a confrontation. and as a person who likely experiences at least the very least some forms of mild racism while in the US, i dont think its unreasonable for someone to feel like this is ethnocentricism or racism and not desire to be the one to have to de-escalate.
 
BJ@LW&WW said:
i dont think the video is "carefully edited". no one recorded the initial interaction with the flight attendant that gave the initial instructions, because why the hell would they be.
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But that is the video that would make the difference. If she asked him more than once, and he didn't respond (which is what she said), that's pretty much it. She isn't obligated to stand there and try to convince him, which is what the lady in the video is telling him. He is also being super petty in the video because he could do like any other grown up and move; it wasn't any skin off his teeth. There was no reason to make a continuing hassle out of it. They do that sort of thing all the time on planes.
 
joy2day said:
But that is the video that would make the difference. If she asked him more than once, and he didn't respond (which is what she said), that's pretty much it. She isn't obligated to stand there and try to convince him, which is what the lady in the video is telling him. He is also being super petty in the video because he could do like any other grown up and move; it wasn't any skin off his teeth. There was no reason to make a continuing hassle out of it. They do that sort of thing all the time on planes.
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no doubt that would be the most important video. like it said, as far as we know, such a video doesnt exist. so whats your point?
 
BJ@LW&WW said:
no doubt that would be the most important video. like it said, as far as we know, such a video doesnt exist. so whats your point?
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It was not per se an "important video" as if this is a Federal case or something. Khabib wasn't mistreated by kicking him off the plane; he had every opportunity to follow the rules. He was asked to move seats like anyone else and he had a crying fit and had to be removed. That was his choice. It wasn't going to hurt him to move seats, and it was not some big injustice even if there were a misunderstanding between him and the original attendant.

In the future, if he wants to stay on the plane, I'm sure he will speak up and clearly confirm he can be the safety man. He can follow the rules like everyone else. It's not hard.
 
Harlekin said:
Can't talk to people in their language nor understand them -> fuck off the emergency exit
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Except Khabib speaks English pretty well and he answered the questions without issue.

Maybe next time try to use facts instead of baseless hatred as your basis for making a post?
 
This could work out pretty good actually:

- trump puts khabib on watch list
-Dana gets him off with promise to fight!
 
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