Khabib is pretty Overrated atm

[Superzorro]

His cadio is shit, his wrestling is shit, and his BJJ is shit. ALL but one win, come from his left hand.

Calm down, you can make a meme out of just about any MMA fighters skill set. If beating Conor McGregor were as easy as avoiding the left (something that every fighter is taught to do against every southpaw they fight), he wouldn't have gotten past Brimage. Logically speaking, his skillset is a little more complex than that if it has gotten him this far in the UFC.
It's just not more complex than Khabibs, which is why he will lose.

The same goes if you don’t think Conor is some god, you’re labeled as a hater. There is this bullshit narrative that exists here that everyone but his dick riders pick against him. Conor’s been the betting favorite in almost every fight he has had in the UFC. Conor fans are trash and make this site worse everyday.

Coming from someone who is neither - I know what the nut huggers look like and I know what the haters look like. Regardless of which side you think is more prevalent on the forums, this person that you're replying to (the OP) is definitely not one of the extreme fans.

 

[Kobra420]

Well, considering you lack even the most basic level of highschool reading comprehension. I'll give you a pass for not getting the point of many posts I make

Your points are biased as fk. Why would I listen to them?

 

[MescalineDreams]

Agreed, bruv. I've noticed guys like you and PROlogic, or even outside Sherdog with MindSmash and Robin Black, get mercilessly ragged on because they like to talk technique and Conor together. It's like if you even try to talk about martial arts on a martial arts forum you are a ball hugger(??). I got respect for anyone that likes this game or supports a fighter, and just don't understand the vitriol and hate for people that do. Better off joining TMZ than Sherdog, sad seeing what's happened to this site since the early 2000's.

I honestly don't even care about Conor or anyone really enough to put them on a pedestal like that.

I respect him highly. His skillset both In and out of the ring just like I do many high level athletes, fighters, public figures, celebrities, etc.

Just calling and breaking things down as you see It objectively as possible seems to make you a nuthugger when It doesn't align with the narrative of certain people.

Some people just operate In black and white, no In between. It is what It is I guess. In my experience, most of them are people who lack martial arts experience from what I've seen. It's the keyboard warrior fans who just watch that tend to be more prone to this type of thought process.

 

[Mixedfights]

Not true TS.

He decisioned #11 for real belt.

This #1 BS.

 

[MescalineDreams]

Your points are biased as fk. Why would I listen to them?

You should be more subtle about your trolling

 

[IamStryker]

Bad mouth khabib? How exactly am I bad mouthing Khabib? Have you ever actually read any of my posts In regards to Khabib?

People are treating him as If he's a god.
He has many holes In his game that the level / styles of his opponents thus far haven't been able to expose.
I could see him losing to Conor, Tony and Kevin Lee.
It just seems like he has many holes In his game that have yet to be exposed and we just don't know enough about him yet to really put him In such high regard.
Kevin Lee is a superior fighter all around than Khabib along with being much younger / having a much higher ceiling and is ridiculously underrated. Yet Khabib is hailed as a god, for beating who exactly?
Great fighter but I feel he has yet to meet someone who's been able to truly expose the glaring holes In his game / style.

That post definitely qualifies as bad mouthing Khabib. Which isn't surprising coming from a Conor fanboy.

This thread Is in response to people viewing him as a god while there are still questions to be answered.

Even Khabib's fans normally admit his stand up isn't super great and he COULD potentially get KO'd. I don't see this "god" thing you are referring to. Khabib is undefeated in MMA as a UFC champion which is basically unheard of.

He's put on some great performances, absolutely. Thus far he hasn't really faced a style of opponent who's been able to capitalize on the holes he's exposed In his game.

Sure. I would say the same about Conor to a large extent.

This thread has nothing to do with Conor

If I didn't know your threads I would agree haha.

 

[Source]

Calm down, you can make a meme out of just about any MMA fighters skill set. If beating Conor McGregor were as easy as avoiding the left (something that every fighter is taught to do against every southpaw they fight), he wouldn't have gotten past Brimage. Logically speaking, his skillset is a little more complex than that if it has gotten him this far in the UFC.
It's just not more complex than Khabibs, which is why he will lose.


Coming from someone who is neither - I know what the nut huggers look like and I know what the haters look like. Regardless of which side you think is more prevalent on the forums, this person that you're replying to (the OP) is definitely not one of the extreme fans.

That’s where you are fooled, OP is definitely a conor dick rider. He’s the worst kind by trying to claim being objective when if you read his threads they lack and semblance of impartiality. That’s what makes him even worse than the prologics, and the countless Conor parrot screen name posters here. He’s a condescending ass hole to boot.

 

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[MyFist]

I love him. Great fighter. Absolutely a fan, take a lot from his style.

I think he's definitely a little overrated atm though.

People are treating him as If he's a god.

He has many holes In his game that the level / styles of his opponents thus far haven't been able to expose.

I could see him losing to Conor, Tony and Kevin Lee.

It just seems like he has many holes In his game that have yet to be exposed and we just don't know enough about him yet to really put him In such high regard.

Kevin Lee is a superior fighter all around than Khabib along with being much younger / having a much higher ceiling and is ridiculously underrated. Yet Khabib is hailed as a god, for beating who exactly?

Great fighter but I feel he has yet to meet someone who's been able to truly expose the glaring holes In his game / style.

Edson Babosa almost knock Kevin Lee the fuck out. Khabib made Edson look amateur.

Tony duck all day. They have been book to fight multiple times and Tony never show up to fight Khabib.

Conor has a puncher chance that's it. Conor is just too dangerous like Cain and Cormier. Relentless pace.

 

[Kobra420]

Calm down, you can make a meme out of just about any MMA fighters skill set. If beating Conor McGregor were as easy as avoiding the left (something that every fighter is taught to do against every southpaw they fight), he wouldn't have gotten past Brimage. Logically speaking, his skillset is a little more complex than that if it has gotten him this far in the UFC.
It's just not more complex than Khabibs, which is why he will lose.


Coming from someone who is neither - I know what the nut huggers look like and I know what the haters look like. Regardless of which side you think is more prevalent on the forums, this person that you're replying to (the OP) is definitely not one of the extreme fans.

His stats don't lie. ALL of his wins are from his left. He has one sub. His cardio is shit, he always gases after the second round of headhunting. His wrestling is shit, Mendez proved that already. His BJJ is shit, all his losses come via sub.
His big mouth, and a paved road is what got him far in the UFC.

 

[IamStryker]

Not true TS.

He decisioned #11 for real belt.

This #1 BS.

What exactly was supposed to happen in that situation? Conor gets to keep the belt and do nothing? Khabib was the best available LW fighting the best available other LW they could find.

 

[IloveTHIS]

They were all Midgets...27 lbs smaller than him.
Then someone his size, tapped him in the second round, and lost a very even decision. He only had one fight at 55, and that was gifted to him, against an idiot that did not use his strengths properly.

Could effortlessly debunk this post that is literally entirely fabricated lies but I'm pretty sure you are trying to troll me

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

That's a fair point. Conor is not as awful as people make him out to be. His skills tilt towards striking obviously but he's competent enough all-around in order to keep fights bringing fights to the area where he's most comfortable. That's what the best MMA fighters are able to do. It's exactly how Khabib makes up for his shortcomings as well.

Yah, agreed.

If I'm being honest, the biggest red flag for the pro Conor argument is that Eddie hot this new and improved Conor to the cage. If that happens versus Conor, I think he will be in fuxsville. An other point of contention is how good is Khabib's chin, and I'm willing to wager he had one of those titan Eastern Block type chins, and certainly has a huge looking head. Johnson may have tagged him but it did not phase him at all.

I spose there is decent possibility that Conor keeps the distance, circles away and uses his counter game to piece him apart, but it is a long 25 minutes in there and against the most high level modern MMA grappler I have ever seen. Not even Olympians Cormier, Henry or Yoel can implement their grappling and wrestling like Khabib can. I think Conor knows the task at hand too and has always been wildly complimentary of Khabib before. Props to him for taking this fight, it takes giant cojones to want to fight Khabib - cuz if you lose, you are getting mauled by a bear, no going to sleep quickly. If I were him, I'd rather GSP or Holloway than Khabib.

 

[Kobra420]

Agreed, bruv. I've noticed guys like you and PROlogic, or even outside Sherdog with MindSmash and Robin Black, get mercilessly ragged on because they like to talk technique and Conor together. It's like if you even try to talk about martial arts on a martial arts forum you are a ball hugger(??). I got respect for anyone that likes this game or supports a fighter, and just don't understand the vitriol and hate for people that do. Better off joining TMZ than Sherdog, sad seeing what's happened to this site since the early 2000's.

Do you have any idea how many Conor fans are TMZ followers?

 

[lsa]

TS with his fake impartiality and pretentious condescending tone. Everything written in the OP has been said about TS’s man crush Conor. TS overrates his own simplistic views, while dismissing anyone who disagrees with him. Like all of TS’s threads OP lacks any real analysis. It only offers intentionally vague references to holes, but is short on details.

Hey man TS knows his stuff, he could beat Chris Leben in a fight and his training partners would be world champions or at least top 5 if they ever decided to try fighting. Thats impressive! ..................... . . . . . . . . .

 

[MescalineDreams]

The irony of you calling out anyone’s confirmation bias, while your next post is quoting a fellow ball gargler. You’ve offered no details to all these holes Khabib has, you’re unable to. The truth is youre not as objective as you claim to be and it’s obvious to anyone with 1/2 a brain. You’re a pretentious fraud.

I've said It many times actually.

The way Khabib moves forward with his chin down is very reckless, he leaves many holes In his defence that his opponents thus far haven't been able to capitalize on In a meaningful way. Many of his takedowns tend to be very clinch based, which can be very risky against someone like Conor who controls the distance / frames very well and counters very well moving backwards.

I would expect Khabib to drill a lot of singles and shots from the outside for this particular opponent.

He has definitely been tightening up his boxing and It appears he's not coming In quite as reckless as he's been In the past. Still, It's still an Issue and not one he can afford to do against a style like Conor.

Khabib definitely has a few holes In his game and he's yet to face the style of opponent / level of competition who's been able to expose It thus far.

my friend, you see things a certain way. You cannot see past your own nose. Everyone Is going to seem like a "ball gargler" who doesn't see things the way you do. That's the way you operate. It's a person who has no sense of objectivity or acknowledgement of the middle point when It comes to quantifying truth.

I can assure you that nothing I do Is obvious to someone like you. You only think It is.

You see what you see and you're not Interested in looking beyond that for the most part. You're unwavering.

 

[Kobra420]

Could effortlessly debunk this post that is literally entirely fabricated lies but I'm pretty sure you are trying to troll me

I know, you Conor fans can twist anything. It's quite amazing actually.

 

[Evangelion]

Come on, Khabib ate a Barboza kick. and people think Mcg can smoke khabib??? Mcg's wins comes from TKO's by multiple punches.

The fact people actually think Barboza is as good or a better striker than Conor is fucking hilarious

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

You should be more subtle about your trolling

Could effortlessly debunk this post that is literally entirely fabricated lies but I'm pretty sure you are trying to troll me

Yah, I think he's gotta be trolling. Atleast ArmBarbarian admits he just like trolling Conor fans and is a secret fan himself. I don't know how someone can know what Sherdog.com is and think Conor is a shit fighter that miraculously became a champ champ, beating some of the best P4P fighters out there, by having them run chin first in to his fist..,,,,,or maybe people are just that dumb????

 

[MescalineDreams]

Hey man TS knows his stuff, he could beat Chris Leben in a fight and his training partners would be world champions or at least top 5 if they ever decided to try fighting. Thats impressive! ..................... . . . . . . . . .

Amazing how badly saying you'd beat a fighter as limited as Chris leben In a fight triggered some people to the point where you actually remember It a year later.. lol.

Dunno where you got the 2nd part.