Khabib is pretty Overrated atm

[Kobra420]

Who says I have a side?

i don't operate In black and white my son

You sure do Mom.

 

[MescalineDreams]

Johnson & Johnson is also a major shareholder in television networks like ABC/NBC/etc. and cable channels HBO etc., film studios like 20th Century Fox/MGM/etc. AND some of the biggest advertising agencies in the world like WPP and Omnicon, who as we know push the narrative that balding is something to be ashamed of.

So J&J tells us balding is disgusting in film/TV, then they advertise us their shampoo which makes us bald, then they sell us the chemicals to reverse the hair loss (replete with severe side effects).

You gotta admire it, really.

 

[Source]

Just troof, homes. There's guys that join an MMA Forum to talk MMA. There are others that just are negative AF, name call and aren't even trolling, Conor fights have a way of weeding out the chaff. As someone that is a ball hugger of neither, tries to be objective, I gotta admit the haters are the absolute worst (that Sinju Singh cat is pretty bad too tho),

If was weak, and not surprising the best you can do. Who are you trying to fool by claiming not to be a nut hugger? You like TS talk out of both sides of your mouth.

 

[Make Sherdog Great Again]

His cadio is shit, his wrestling is shit, and his BJJ is shit. ALL but one win, come from his left hand.

I was referring to the fighter who is the subject of this thread.

 

[IamStryker]

But he said in every thread he’s impartial and objective.

 

[Kobra420]

There you go again with you’re pretentious responses. By someone like me do you mean someone that sees through your fake analysis bullshit? You’re arrogant, and condescending while offering no real analysis of anything. You keep responding for someone that doesn’t want to “waste your time” because you’re terribly insecure.

Perfectly said Mano. I could not say it any better if I tried.

 

[Superzorro]

That's how this forum works.

To acknowledge Conor does anything well or attempt to give a proper breakdown In regards to his skillset / career..you automatically fall within the realm of nuthugger. There's no In between.

These are truly the people who are everything wrong with this forum, so far removed from reality and they don't even see It.

Yeah, I've noticed that on this forum if you don't agree that Conor is the worst fighter ever, you're considered to be a nut hugger. I actually think Khabib wins this fight pretty handily and have expressed this on several occasions, yet the MMA hipsters who think its cool to hate the popular fighters still hate on me because I won't join their bandwagon.

 

[Kobra420]

I was referring to the fighter who is the subject of this thread.

My bad Mang. Sorry.

 

[MescalineDreams]

You sure do Mom.

Well, considering you lack even the most basic level of highschool reading comprehension. I'll give you a pass for not getting the point of many posts I make

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Khabib isn't overrated. Look at his fights with RDA Michael Johnson.

RDA is a great balanced fighter who can submit opponents, KO them and/or tire them out with a relentless pace in order to win entertaining decisions. RDA was fighting at his peak at LW when he fought Khabib. Before losing to Khabib, Dos Anjos had won his previous 5 fights. After losing to Khabib, RDA won his next 5 fights, including two TKO's and a great KO of Benson Henderson. RDA had 5 wins before Khabib and 5 wins after, including winning the LW belt and defending it. Pretty safe to say RDA was at his best when he fought Khabib. Yet he could barely manage any offense. He did nothing in that fight. Khabib constantly pushed him around and took him down. He walked through RDA's kicks and what was, against everyone else, a high paced balanced attack. Not against Khabib it wasn't. Khabib kept ragdolling him. RDA just couldn't stop him.

On the MJ fight, Johnson is a decent striker with a wrestling background. A guy like that should have given Khabib some real problems. MJ tested his chin in round one and still couldn't do anything. Didn't even slow Khabib. Yes that round showed us Khabib can be hit, but In that first round Khabib also showed us he has has a solid chin. Johnson had KO'd Porier in the 1st round only two months before fighting Khabib. Pretty safe to say Johnson had some dangerous hands at that point in his career, but in that fight it meant nothing. His wrestling background also meant nothing, he couldn't keep it standing, and he got pummeled. MJ showed a lot of heart in that fight but still took a beating and got submitted.

Khabib is not only undefeated, he has 10 wins in a row in the UFC against good opposition. It is extremely hard to string together wins in MMA. Everyone loses at least once, somehow. Not Khabib. He always proves to be too much for whoever he fights. He walks through their best shots, takes them down and imposes his will.

Conor has more KO power than anyone Khabib has ever faced so that's what makes this fight so interesting, but based on what we've seen Khabib deserves to be considered (rated as) the favorite in this matchup.

Tho I totally agree with everything you said, I think the one caveat with MJ and RDA is that they have a propensity to quit, or have a mental hang up when they can't impose their game plan. MJ is obviously more of a wilter, but RDA loses to just about every competent wrestler, from Clay to Colby. Conor v Mendes and Conor v Nate II proved that he can atleast mount a comeback, even if he does get taken down and gassed up a bit, tho I still favor Khabib like 2/3.

 

[Source]

I mean, you're just quoting other people who have your exact same position.. lol

i know all of you well.

You're still doing the same shit. Just seeking others who validate your narrative. Zero capability of acknowledging other sides of the debate / discussion.

The irony of you calling out anyone’s confirmation bias, while your next post is quoting a fellow ball gargler. You’ve offered no details to all these holes Khabib has, you’re unable to. The truth is youre not as objective as you claim to be and it’s obvious to anyone with 1/2 a brain. You’re a pretentious fraud.

 

[IamStryker]

Feel free to point out a single post In this thread which qualifies as "fanboying" Conor.

I'll wait

You've been an extremist "since forever".

Can't really expect someone who operates on that frequency to see things otherwise.

so I'll give you a pass.

This thread is typical of you. Of course you are going to bad mouth Khabib and claim he is overrated. Easily beating RDA, Johnson, Barboza, and Al means nothing. I'm sure you think it was amazing that Conor decisioned Nate lol.

 

[IloveTHIS]

His cadio is shit, his wrestling is shit, and his BJJ is shit. ALL but one win, come from his left hand.

If he is shit what does that say about all the men he beat?

 

[Kobra420]

You've been an extremist "since forever".

You are a Conor "extremist" fo sho....

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

That's how this forum works.

To acknowledge Conor does anything well or attempt to give a proper breakdown In regards to his skillset / career..you automatically fall within the realm of nuthugger. There's no In between.

These are truly the people who are everything wrong with this forum, so far removed from reality and they don't even see It.

Agreed, bruv. I've noticed guys like you and PROlogic, or even outside Sherdog with MindSmash and Robin Black, get mercilessly ragged on because they like to talk technique and Conor together. It's like if you even try to talk about martial arts on a martial arts forum you are a ball hugger(??). I got respect for anyone that likes this game or supports a fighter, and just don't understand the vitriol and hate for people that do. Better off joining TMZ than Sherdog, sad seeing what's happened to this site since the early 2000's.

 

[Source]

Yeah, I've noticed that on this forum if you don't agree that Conor is the worst fighter ever, you're considered to be a nut hugger. I actually think Khabib wins this fight pretty handily and have expressed this on several occasions, yet the MMA hipsters who think its cool to hate the popular fighters still hate on me because I won't join their bandwagon.

The same goes if you don’t think Conor is some god, you’re labeled as a hater. There is this bullshit narrative that exists here that everyone but his dick riders pick against him. Conor’s been the betting favorite in almost every fight he has had in the UFC. Conor fans are trash and make this site worse everyday.

 

[MescalineDreams]

This thread is typical of you. Of course you are going to bad mouth Khabib and claim he is overrated. Easily beating RDA, Johnson, Barboza, and Al means nothing. I'm sure you think it was amazing that Conor decisioned Nate lol.

Bad mouth khabib? How exactly am I bad mouthing Khabib? Have you ever actually read any of my posts In regards to Khabib?

I break down his skillset quite well and give him a ton of credit. I think he's a great fighter and I gain a lot from him.

This thread Is in response to people viewing him as a god while there are still questions to be answered.

He's put on some great performances, absolutely. Thus far he hasn't really faced a style of opponent who's been able to capitalize on the holes he's exposed In his game.

That's all this thread Is about. Khabib Is amazing. Great fighter. Great well rounded wrestling / clinch game. Excellent top game. Boxing Is coming along and Improving every fight. I think there's still some questions that need to be answered though that his level of opponents thus far haven't been able to capitalize on yet.

This thread has nothing to do with Conor

 

[Kobra420]

If he is shit what does that say about all the men he beat?

They were all Midgets...27 lbs smaller than him.
Then someone his size, tapped him in the second round, and lost a very even decision. He only had one fight at 55, and that was gifted to him, against an idiot that did not use his strengths properly.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

Tho I totally agree with everything you said, I think the one caveat with MJ and RDA is that they have a propensity to quit, or have a mental hang up when they can't impose their game plan. MJ is obviously more of a wilter, but RDA loses to just about every competent wrestler, from Clay to Colby. Conor v Mendes and Conor v Nate II proved that he can atleast mount a comeback, even if he does get taken down and gassed up a bit, tho I still favor Khabib like 2/3.

That's a fair point. Conor is not as awful as people make him out to be. His skills tilt towards striking obviously but he's competent enough all-around in order to keep bringing fights to the area where he's most comfortable. That's what the best MMA fighters are able to do. It's exactly how Khabib makes up for his shortcomings as well.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

If he is shit what does that say about all the men he beat?

More shit?

Funnily, I think many of the most extreme haters were huge Aldo fans (I am too), so saying he is shit means that his beaten opponents are more shit. I love CroCop, but I don't hate on Fedor because he beat Prime CC, just acknowledge that he is better and both fighters are great.