Keyboard Jockey Attempts Two AR-15 Builds

[Cubo de Sangre]

Yeah and realistically the 2 round would be better than mag dumps anyway. Maybe get a good cheap dedicated lower for it to mess with. I've heard the semi auto trigger pull and reset isn't the greatest. Maybe that changed or is fixable. If the legality had a rock solid atf response and semi mode was tits it would be an easier decision to make as far as getting it. I'll check that link later.

I can find no fault in your thinking. Personally though, I wouldn't bust it out to shoot in semi-auto. I've got a number of options for that already. Here's where I probably diverge from many in terms of philosophy. Utility isn't a concern of mine. Enjoyment is. I've no intention of ever using one of my firearms to take a life (of any species). I like shooting them and find them interesting. So much so that it's the one area of my life I get past my disinterest in mechanics (of any sort). Trying stuff out and experiencing the differences (which I couldn't if I didn't buy) is kinda awesome. I've pissed away some money for sure. But I've also learned that I can get the vast majority of my money back if I'm willing to do the work and part stuff out if need be.

In regards to the Sig brace reversal, who has gotten raided or been issued any type of summons? ATF, to my understanding, has approved the trigger. I don't believe they can change their mind and then force you to turn in your property. Shit man, if they did and pre-owned got grandfathered in then you'd wish you bought multiples.

 

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I can find no fault in your thinking. Personally though, I wouldn't bust it out to shoot in semi-auto. I've got a number of options for that already. Here's where I probably diverge from many in terms of philosophy. Utility isn't a concern of mine. Enjoyment is. I've no intention of ever using one of my firearms to take a life (of any species). I like shooting them and find them interesting. So much so that it's the one area of my life I get past my disinterest in mechanics (of any sort). Trying stuff out and experiencing the differences (which I couldn't if I didn't buy) is kinda awesome. I've pissed away some money for sure. But I've also learned that I can get the vast majority of my money back if I'm willing to do the work and part stuff out if need be.

In regards to the Sig brace reversal, who has gotten raided or been issued any type of summons? ATF, to my understanding, has approved the trigger. I don't believe they can change their mind and then force you to turn in your property. Shit man, if they did and pre-owned got grandfathered in then you'd wish you bought multiples.

I agree with you. I already have a utility gun. Basically everything else will have a specific purpose/theme/fun gun. That's why I would have a cheaper dedicated lower for it just to do binary and just throw whatever upper I wanted with it. But putting it on a cool lower or themed build I probably wouldn't do. My buddy did that with his slide fire. Got a cheap stripped lower on sale and put basic stuff on it with the slide fire.

I know the atf is very unlikely to come down but damn if they do, they like to make examples out of people.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

I agree with you. I already have a utility gun. Basically everything else will have a specific purpose/theme/fun gun. That's why I would have a cheaper dedicated lower for it just to do binary and just throw whatever upper I wanted with it. But putting it on a cool lower or themed build I probably wouldn't do. My buddy did that with his slide fire. Got a cheap stripped lower on sale and put basic stuff on it with the slide fire.

Not to be dense or adversarial, but what's the point? If it's good then fuck yeah! If it sucks then why have an extra federal yolk (serial numbered/registered part) to perpetuate the sad farce of failure (i.e the binary function not delivering as hoped)? In other words, if the trigger don't bang it out all double-tappy in top-notch fashion then why waste a "gun" on it? Sell and move on. If it works though, why surround it with parts you don't prefer?

 

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Not to be dense or adversarial, but what's the point? If it's good then fuck yeah! If it sucks then why have an extra federal yolk (serial numbered/registered part) to perpetuate the sad farce of failure (i.e the binary function not delivering as hoped)? In other words, if the trigger don't bang it out all double-tappy in top-notch fashion then why waste a "gun" on it? Sell and move on. If it works though, why surround it with parts you don't prefer?

Yeah idk. I guess that's true. Although a $160 blem psa lower isn't exactly a big expense to have. I mean if I had a nice expensive themed lower I would want a regular good trigger and bust out the double tap goodness whenever I wanted. It was like you said, I would only use that trigger if I wanted to do bursts. I certainly wouldn't want a nice expensive 6.8 build that basically good at only 2 round bursts.

Idk that opinion might change after I tried it. Idk man maybe I'm over thinking it. It could very much be that.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

Want.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Idk man maybe I'm over thinking it. It could very much be that.

Judging by my own posting here, I'll admit guilt in overthinking pretty much everything about it. I thought I had these two Spike's builds figured out but now, between our posting, the apple-cart has been overturned a bit. Triggers and which handguard have suddenly become a real dilemma now.

Because the RRA needs removed for troubleshooting, I'm now considering putting the FA binary in the spider logo lower, replacing the SSA-E that's in there, then transferring that Geiselle to Mr. Bones. I'm all about the idea of the skeletonized trigger, but if I'm dropping a few hundred I might as well go all in on the binary and really get something for my money. Maybe I could ask them to drill some holes in it. The spider logo lowers aren't all that precious comparatively and the double-tap theme fits the requisite toughness quotient. So far this option is resonating most.

On your wood furniture picture, that's interesting. Without seeing it, the idea would sound somewhere between cringe-worthy and laughable, but that looks kinda cool. That style stock might be the choice that pulls off the entire look.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

Judging by my own posting here, I'll admit guilt in overthinking pretty much everything about it. I thought I had these two Spike's builds figured out but now, between our posting, the apple-cart has been overturned a bit. Triggers and which handguard have suddenly become a real dilemma now.

Because the RRA needs removed for troubleshooting, I'm now considering putting the FA binary in the spider logo lower, replacing the SSA-E that's in there, then transferring that Geiselle to Mr. Bones. I'm all about the idea of the skeletonized trigger, but if I'm dropping a few hundred I might as well go all in on the binary and really get something for my money. Maybe I could ask them to drill some holes in it. The spider logo lowers aren't all that precious comparatively and the double-tap theme fits the requisite toughness quotient. So far this option is resonating most.

On your wood furniture picture, that's interesting. Without seeing it, the idea would sound somewhere between cringe-worthy and laughable, but that looks kinda cool. That style stock might be the choice that pulls off the entire look.

Yeah on builds you can never get enough opinions or ideas regardless of you use them imo.

That's the way I would go If I got the binary. The Timney skeleton 3lb can be had for like $220 on gunbroker.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

$220 sounds better. Seems a shame to have an SSA-E sitting around. But I wouldn't want to part with it either. lol

I need a 2nd job.

 

[Gregolian]

I need a better paying job


Ugh, annoying.... I haven't even finished my AR-10 and I am already thinking of what optics and shit I want on my home defense/SHTF AR-15.

Optic-wise... is there anything truly SPECIAL about the AimPoint that warrants the price? I know EOTECH's aren't cheap either (their recent issue with holding zero in the cold upon thinking of it further doesn't bother me) but I also know from what friends of mine in the military have told me is that EOTECH's and ACOG's can practically get run over by a truck and they'll still work.

The Trijicon MRO has also kind of caught my eye too honestly.

 

[Gregolian]

Opinions?

 

[Protectandserve]

Want.

Who makes this?

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

I need a better paying job


Ugh, annoying.... I haven't even finished my AR-10 and I am already thinking of what optics and shit I want on my home defense/SHTF AR-15.

Optic-wise... is there anything truly SPECIAL about the AimPoint that warrants the price? I know EOTECH's aren't cheap either (their recent issue with holding zero in the cold upon thinking of it further doesn't bother me) but I also know from what friends of mine in the military have told me is that EOTECH's and ACOG's can practically get run over by a truck and they'll still work.

The Trijicon MRO has also kind of caught my eye too honestly.

I feel your pain.

I have 1 Aimpoint, 1 ACOG, 2 Eotech's, 1 Leupold scope, 0 other optics. I prefer looking at the Eotech over the Aimpoint. Looking through them is more of a toss-up. I lean toward the Eotech due to the outer circle. ACOG is in a different class. It's not apples to apples though with the magnification. Personally I'm interested in that MRO and would be inclined to try one out as opposed to purchasing another Aimpoint or Eotech. I'm sure none of what I typed is helpful, but I guess I'm saying that you probably can't go wrong either way.

Opinions?

I watched this video the other week. I like this dude and he makes sense, but I don't necessarily agree with him. Wants, needs, & interests vary.

BUIS: Sure they should be there. Gun's not functional without sights.
Staked castle nut: Sounds good, but if you're looking to disassemble it's a hindrance.
Sling attachment: I agree. And the right attachment might negate the desire to remove the castle nut.
Forward assist: Is it a cost savings? Either way, it's questionable. Most seem to agree that jamming a round in isn't always prudent.
Barrel profile: I'm no expert here, but he makes sense.
Magazine release: That's why I like homie. Critiquing one turn off.
Dust cover: He's not wrong. But I'm purposely omitting it on the Bones build. (note: might change name from Bare Bones to Mr. Bones)

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

3:30 in is where the nitty-gritty starts.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

Opinions?

My opinion is that dude is a fucking idiot.

He is complaining about one of the cheapest entry level AR15's out there. We are talking about an AR that goes on sale often for like $550. It's like going out to buy a car and being upset that the base model doesn't have the big engine, leather interior, premium media packag, etc.

BUIS from the factory. Wrong, adds to cost to a cheap gun. Let the buyer decide what irons he wants, IF he wants them.

Forward assist. Lol I've used one once on an AR10 and it was because the bolt was very dry. Also many high end rifles don't even offer it or have an option to delete it. It does save weight lol.

Dust cover, I never use it.

Castle nut being staked, sure but if you have a hammer and punch you can do it in 1 minute. Makes disassembly more difficult if you want to change something.

Sling attachment qd plate. Again adds cost, let the user decide what he wants if he even wants a sling.

People that buy that aren't going to war. They are having fun at a range. They don't need a fa or dust cover.

Also lube the damn pins and don't drop, smack and scratch the fuck out of your friends rifle. What a jackass.

Barrel profile he is wrong as well, some people would rather have a lighter barrel. If you have to replace a $150 barrel a few thousand rounds early after shooting over 3k worth of ammo it isn't a big deal imo. Also profile doesn't directly relate to barrel longevity.

This gun works for 95%+ of shooters. Unless he does 3 gun or some type of stuff like that it would work for him as well. Nothing wrong with wanting better but saying it won't work is a bit of a farce imo.

 

[Gregolian]

I feel your pain.

I have 1 Aimpoint, 1 ACOG, 2 Eotech's, 1 Leupold scope, 0 other optics. I prefer looking at the Eotech over the Aimpoint. Looking through them is more of a toss-up. I lean toward the Eotech due to the outer circle. ACOG is in a different class. It's not apples to apples though with the magnification. Personally I'm interested in that MRO and would be inclined to try one out as opposed to purchasing another Aimpoint or Eotech. I'm sure none of what I typed is helpful, but I guess I'm saying that you probably can't go wrong either way.

Lol. I like Vortex personally but am just kinda browsing.

I watched this video the other week. I like this dude and he makes sense, but I don't necessarily agree with him. Wants, needs, & interests vary.

BUIS: Sure they should be there. Gun's not functional without sights.
Staked castle nut: Sounds good, but if you're looking to disassemble it's a hindrance.
Sling attachment: I agree. And the right attachment might negate the desire to remove the castle nut.
Forward assist: Is it a cost savings? Either way, it's questionable. Most seem to agree that jamming a round in isn't always prudent.
Barrel profile: I'm no expert here, but he makes sense.
Magazine release: That's why I like homie. Critiquing one turn off.
Dust cover: He's not wrong. But I'm purposely omitting it on the Bones build. (note: might change name from Bare Bones to Mr. Bones)

I think the complaint about the rear sling point is a bit... well, nitpicky as most people replace that anyways even they straight up buy a gun, also staking the castle nut I can get when building your own but if manufacturers did that then everyone would whine it made it more of a bitch to remove the stock and replace it.

The forward assist, dust cover and such and no rear sight at least on a gun with the A'frame front is a very legitimate complaint.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

Who makes this?

It was a one off but that is a battle arm's development sbr.

It's their monolithic pdw lower

Light weight upper

And a Fortis handguard.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Also lube the damn pins and don't drop, smack and scratch the fuck out of your friends rifle. What a jackass.

That part is extra funny when he knows full-well he's making a Youtube video and his buddy will see him totally disrespecting his rifle.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

I need a better paying job


Ugh, annoying.... I haven't even finished my AR-10 and I am already thinking of what optics and shit I want on my home defense/SHTF AR-15.

Optic-wise... is there anything truly SPECIAL about the AimPoint that warrants the price? I know EOTECH's aren't cheap either (their recent issue with holding zero in the cold upon thinking of it further doesn't bother me) but I also know from what friends of mine in the military have told me is that EOTECH's and ACOG's can practically get run over by a truck and they'll still work.

The Trijicon MRO has also kind of caught my eye too honestly.

Aimpoint's are beasts, they will take massive abuse. Also on one battery(or however many it takes) they will run for 3-8+ years straight depending on the model and brightness. Comp M4 with a single AA battery has an estimated 80,000 hour run time.

 

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That part is extra funny when he knows full-well he's making a Youtube video and his buddy will see him totally disrespecting his rifle.

Yeah lol

I understand some of his complaints if we were talking about a $1000 rifle, but an entry level $550 gun I disagree with most of what he said. I can totally understand the market for a cheap, light weight, low featured AR.

 

[Crash Lance]

I love weapons. I must return to this thread later.