Keosawa's Powerlifting Log

[Keosawa]

2.5" Deficit Deadlift
135x3
225x1
315x1
405x1
455x1
505x1
530x1 (PR)
455x2



Seated Goodmornings
Barx8
95x8
135x12
135x12
135x12

Cable External Rotations, three sets

Standing Cable Ab Crunches, three sets

Ka-pow!

 

[WitchCraft]

That moved FAST off the floor! Nice job.

Ka-pow!

 

[Obscure Terror]

Yep--those are wrestling shoes.

Interesting, I've been looking at some lifting footwear and heard a few recommendations for wretling boots, and I've also considered getting some for actually wrestling in so I might have to invest.

 

[KiddMuscle**]

Why is it that no one is calling you out on doing curls and tricep work?
I'm cognizant enough to know you obviously know what you're doing, but anytime anyone else on the forum even mentions a curl it's 35 references the stickies. Why are you the exception??
//

 

[tsukongk]

Why is it that no one is calling you out on doing curls and tricep work?
I'm cognizant enough to know you obviously know what you're doing, but anytime anyone else on the forum even mentions a curl it's 35 references the stickies. Why are you the exception??
//

as stated somewhere in this forum:

curls are like mustard, it's fine every now and then, but if you want a bowl full of mustard, then you've got a problem.

A more important question would be, what's your problem? There are plenty of people here that do curls. It could be to prevent bicep tears during deadlifting or it might be to get swole. The difference is we don't waste our time discussing how to get the lower bicep, middle bicep, upper bicep ripped or have triple peaks or what have you. There are other venues for that, the logs are here to serve as a means of recording our workouts. Why bash another person online when he's not causing any decline of your quality of life?

Oh and btw: Read the stickies

 

[belph]

Why is it that no one is calling you out on doing curls and tricep work?
I'm cognizant enough to know you obviously know what you're doing, but anytime anyone else on the forum even mentions a curl it's 35 references the stickies. Why are you the exception??
//

He's not. I curl and do tricep work myself, and there are no repercussions. I'll be curlin' today, baby !

 

[KiddMuscle**]

He's not. I curl and do tricep work myself, and there are no repercussions. I'll be curlin' today, baby !

I know, but it's like their is a wicked dogma or something here where everyone just mindlessly tells you you're doing it wrong and refers you to the stickies.
Shit gets old.

and good luck with the curls.

you don't need luck, you're good.

 

[Babyeater]

I know, but it's like their is a wicked dogma or something here where everyone just mindlessly tells you you're doing it wrong and refers you to the stickies.
Shit gets old.

and good luck with the curls.

you don't need luck, you're good.

The difference is that this is a log and the curl is being done and discussed as an accessory exercise in it. People advocate accessory exercises to the main lifts around here. They do not, as often, advocate a "bi's and tri's day" kind of lifting scheme, and when it appears that the curl is the main bulk of someone's lifting activity as opposed to an accessory lift, said individual, yes, is probably screwed around here.

Also, IMO, people can more feasibly do whatever the hell they want in their logs.

And yes, he's very good.

 

[Keosawa]

Interesting, I've been looking at some lifting footwear and heard a few recommendations for wretling boots, and I've also considered getting some for actually wrestling in so I might have to invest.

They're great for deadlifting, so-so for squatting, and fine for everything else. The benefits are that they're low to the ground and they've got a flat sole (i.e. perfect for deadlifting).

 

[Keosawa]

Why is it that no one is calling you out on doing curls and tricep work?
I'm cognizant enough to know you obviously know what you're doing, but anytime anyone else on the forum even mentions a curl it's 35 references the stickies. Why are you the exception??
//

I know, but it's like their is a wicked dogma or something here where everyone just mindlessly tells you you're doing it wrong and refers you to the stickies.
Shit gets old.

and good luck with the curls.

you don't need luck, you're good.

Well, others have answered, but I'll add my own input by responding directly:

As others have said, curls and certain tricep exercises are single-joint isolation movements. For this reason, they don't offer near the benefits of larger compound movements. And, for THIS reason, most training programs are built around larger compound movements.

...But that's not to say that curling can't be useful. I use hammer curls because they're recommended by Louie Simmons as a way to keep healthy biceps, and I use them maybe once every couple of weeks.

The problem is that a routine that focuses on curling--or isolation movements in general--is likely not conducive to a person's goals. Even if you want big arms, the path of least resistance is not to do a million bicep curls and tricep extensions. It's to do heavy compound lifts and supplement these with smaller movements.

So, people on an S&C forum get blasted for making bicep curls a focus on their program because regardless of their goals, a compound movement centered approach would be better.

There are, I suppose, a few exceptions. If you're a strict-curl lifter or an arm wrestler, then yes, curls would be your focus. But outside of this, focusing a program on isolation movements is never going to be as productive as the alternative.

Finally, some people on S&C forums hate bicep curls out of ignorance; because it has a loose association with "bodybuilding" and "vanity lifts," they ignore it out of spite. Just as there are multitudes of ignorant people outside of the S&C circle, there are a few acolytes within it who take their desire to efface aesthetics from their training too far by eliminating viable exercises on the basis that some bro is abusing them.

I hope that answer helps. I didn't take offense at your comment, though you would be better served asking in a less aggressive manner next time. Try not to project your frustrations with this forum onto me, please.

 

[Keosawa]

Also:

 

[Jester]

haha, that gif always sneaks up on me and cracks me up

good luck at your competition man, im expecting a big squat PR

 

[Keosawa]

haha, that gif always sneaks up on me and cracks me up

good luck at your competition man, im expecting a big squat PR

Thanks! I'm going 450-485-502 on my squats for this one, I think. 502 is tough but possible, and it would be cool to give 500+ a ride for the first time. Even if I miss it, I'll have a blast getting under it.

 

[Jester]

Thanks! I'm going 450-485-502 on my squats for this one, I think. 502 is tough but possible, and it would be cool to give 500+ a ride for the first time. Even if I miss it, I'll have a blast getting under it.

you smoked that 495 a few weeks back, no reason you couldnt give 502 a run

would 502 put you at #1?

all this competing talk makes me want to do another one, getting the itch

 

[JauntyAngle]

you smoked that 495 a few weeks back, no reason you couldnt give 502 a run

would 502 put you at #1?

all this competing talk makes me want to do another one, getting the itch

Keo already has the #1 ranked squat at 148, I think.

 

[Jester]

Keo already has the #1 ranked squat at 148, I think.

o, nevermind then

thought you said after your last competition you had #2

 

[Fighting Sprite]

He's number 2. From his meet report:

With a 1327 total, I become the #4 ranked lifter in the U.S. at 148 lbs. I also pushed my deadlift up to #3 in the country and my squat up to #2

 

[dawgpnd81]

1800+ posts in this log on high level lifting and someones first post in here is about curls. This place amazes me lol.

 

[Keosawa]

Yep, #2 at 148 in the squat right now. The answer for whether or not I'd be #1 with a 502 squat is a complicated one. Right now, the answer is no; Tony Conyers squatted 530 last November in a PRPA meet. However, that lift will expire after a year (rankings are done so that only your best lifts in the past year count), and I think his next best squat at 148 this year is 502. Recently, he's competed at 165, and he tends to compete in both weight classes.

So, 502 won't give me #1, but I might enter into a tie for it after the fact. Getting a #1 ranking is my next goal, and I don't feel like I need to get lucky to get it; if I train hard and smart, next year I'll have a strong enough squat to hopefully compete with Conyers' best numbers at this weight.

 

[Keosawa]

all this competing talk makes me want to do another one, getting the itch

It's a great way to break out of a training slump.