Karate blackbelt Jesse Enkamp demonstrates why BJJ does not work

PaleMoonlight said:
Here’s a bjj black belt that couldn’t grapple. Lmao

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Old man tries to stand with SARMSBro for 3 rounds and doesnt try to take him down. Gets beat up.

really proves that BJJ is worthless!
 
I have trained in many Martial arts from TKD to Aikido, from kickboxing to Judo. I always say you never want to fight a boxer or a wrestler. One can knock you out, the other will take you down and beat you without ever getting tired.
 
It's a poor demonstration. He was in BJJ tournament, and refused to engage in BJJ. It'd be like entering a Karate tournament, and wrestle fucking your opponent, and going "See, Karate doesn't work."

BJJ has its place, and it's not exactly easy to "just stand up" as he proved in training, without having the skills and knowledge to be able to do that. He also beat some rando off the street. Why doesn't he demonstrate this with a decorated champion in an MMA fight?
 
Phlog said:
What has why I think he released that video got to do with you not understanding the central message of the video?

Do you think that people's internal motivation is the content they produce? That's obviously not the case. So what are you trying to say here? Your words are not cutting it, if we assume your thoughts are ordered.
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Man, that's some level of importancy right here.

And still it's just empty bragging and lecturing.

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So tell me about that deep hidden, magical central message that I fail to understand. Enlighten me.
 
From this perspective it is pretty useless but what if you use it as wrestling, nobody in a streetfight is gonna pull the Werdum gimmick.... Use it as offensive BJJ, no waiting around and butt scooting. Just constant one or doublelegs (yeah thats part of wrestling in essence but BJJ folks know that mostly) and getting the opponent to the ground. Then its FAR from useless.
In most stree/bar fights no need for even that, guys usually end up too close and eventually rolling on the ground.
 
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Da Speeit said:
Trading punches with someone should be your last ditch effort. Taking them down should be the first.

For people who dont fight other people you guys have a LOT of opinions about what does and doesnt work
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I'd say there is a lot more before trading punches. I grapple before punches sure, but standing, going to the ground is the absolute last ditch effort along with biting and eye gouging.

I was a doorman for 20 years in London, Norwich and a large south West town. I couldn't count the number of fights I've been in, before that as a youth and then that career as the largest and therefore the enforcer role. Had 13 amateur kickboxing fights, posted some of them here back in the day.

In all that time taking someone down was the last thing on my mind, the primary is them going down and me staying up. If it ever went to the ground I was massively fucked. Also who wants to role around on a club floor covered in beer and :eek::eek::eek:(lol, couldn't say F.A.G) ash?

You've got your opinion and that's cool man, but it does you no good to be making assumptions about who you're posting with.
 
Phlog said:
He's not wrong, but the techniques taught work when standing or in other positions. I've always seen jiu jitsu as a last ditch response in a fight, or if the opportunity for a guillotine or the like presents itself. It's also important to be able to defend yourself from grappling.

It's not the main art, but it's absolutely vital to make ones standup complete.
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Honestly everyone should try door work to see what works or not

Also didnt watch the video trololol
 
Da Speeit said:
Show me all the videos of bjj guys getting beaten up at bars. I’ll wait.
Closest is a drunk BJ Penn who chased the dude down and sent him to the hospital.

karate is gay and doesnt work. There is not a group of people more delusional about their fighting ability than Karate guys.
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Sam Alvey just proved that karate doesn't work, but we don't see him making a scripted and narrated youtube video about it.
 
Bacco said:
I usually like his vids a lot and i'm no BJJ fanboy at all, but he's being bizzarre asshole on this one lol

BJJ may be "uncomplete" by itself and not doing much to fix it, but so does Karate by not having ground game

Even debunking the fake stats of "90% of fights ends on the ground", does'nt follow up with the actual % of fights that indeed ends on the ground and how karate don't have much answers for that %
Let's say it's even just 30% (instead the wrong 90), it's still an enormous portion of risk to be completely helpless against, even if fight indeed it starts standing

Essentially logic he's pushing could be reversed against his art too, playing very same silly gimmicks

Would be different if he was talking as MMA or Sambo rep claiming his style cover all areas of the fight, while BJJ does'nt... but doing it as Karate rep is bit pot calling the kettle black lol
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Yeah, I like Encamp's videos, but this was not his best work.

The Academy I trained at offered classes in BJJ, CSW, Muay Thai and several other arts. BJJ was the most popular, and the majority of students competed, from small local tournaments up to the international level.

Not once in all the time I trained there did I hear anyone say that BJJ should be one's first choice for self-defence, or that you should pull guard in a real fight. In fact, most of us cross trained in striking. I'd finish a BJJ class, get changed and go right into the Kickboxing class.

BJJ nas it's flaws. So does Karate and every other Martial Art.
 
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PaleMoonlight said:
He didn't butt scoot though. BJJ works but sport jiu jitsu has some bad tendencies for a street fight.
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What is “sport jiu jitsu”?
The best competitors in ibjjf right now are Tainan Dalpra, Nicholas Meregali and outside of that Gordon Ryan, Kaynan Duarte.

what tendencies do they have that would make them lose a street fight to an untrained person?
 
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