Elections Kamala Harris for POTUS

[Gamer2k4]

I feel like actually though Harris like Hilary is a good advert for there being strong sexism in the system not just the electorate, basically for women to be candidates they have to be weak very pro establishment types, anyone genuinely progressive who threatened to upset the gravy train would be facing pushback from that AND sexism, they would be in an even more difficult situation than someone like Sanders was.

Harris's voters were 55% women and 45% men, same as any other Democrat. Sexism had nothing to do with it.

Obama I think sneaked though a little although I think really he was only very mildly progressive, if he'd been any moreso that combined with racism would have been much harder to fight.

Obama won BECAUSE he was black. All sorts of black voters who had never cast a ballot before came out to vote for the first black President.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

I feel like actually though Harris like Hilary is a good advert for there being strong sexism in the system not just the electorate, basically for women to be candidates they have to be weak very pro establishment types, anyone genuinely progressive who threatened to upset the gravy train would be facing pushback from that AND sexism, they would be in an even more difficult situation than someone like Sanders was.

Obama I think sneaked though a little although I think really he was only very mildly progressive, if he'd been any moreso that combined with racism would have been much harder to fight.

Honestly as well I feel like tokenism generally has lost a lot of its pull relative to the Obama era, it still matters somewhat but not to the degree of a decade ago IMHO. I feel like people have seen it fail to lead to much genuine positive change over that period and its gone back to being viewed more cynically as it was prior to Obama.

Brahminization, DEI political comissars, more regulation on every human activity is the establishment.

 

[TadDunbar]

May as well lock this thread

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Harris's voters were 55% women and 45% men, same as any other Democrat. Sexism had nothing to do with it.

Obama won BECAUSE he was black. All sorts of black voters who had never cast a ballot before came out to vote for the first black President.

Which tends to support my point that I think tokenism has lost a lot of its shine since the Obama years but also that Obama did at least have "some" substance to him unlike Hilary and Harris.

Again I feel like probably a bigger factor if any exists is actually in politics itself, sexism is more of a barrier there which means only a politican who is VERY establishment friendly will be able to deal with that were as one more progressive its another hurdle to get past(although I think a much smaller one than being genuinely progressive).

 

[PEB]

It didn't help that she always sounded like she was about to start crying

Her laugh made her seem phony an made people uncomfortable. She made a lot of errors like not talking about everyday workers issues. McDonald's thing she should have not say anything. Woman just don't reflect strength. Biden f'd up selecting her there were much stronger options. Liz Cheney thing was overplayed.

 

[Vergilius]

Which tends to support my point that I think tokenism has lost a lot of its shine since the Obama years but also that Obama did at least have "some" substance to him unlike Hilary and Harris.

Again I feel like probably a bigger factor if any exists is actually in politics itself, sexism is more of a barrier there which means only a politican who is VERY establishment friendly will be able to deal with that were as one more progressive its another hurdle to get past(although I think a much smaller one than being genuinely progressive).

Whether you liked him or not as president, Obama was a great campaigner: well-spoken, charismatic and dynamic - able to really hold an audience on his own.

It's night and day comparing him to Harris and it's got nothing to do with gender, imo. I thought from the start she was an exceedingly weak candidate and stated this many times in my official Sherdog record. You can't appoint a non-entity like that to go against a charismatic con-artist type like Trump.

 

[Mack Yancy]

Way Way Way too many I told you so to give out.

@Helden @Paynebringer @BFoe @Rational Poster


I will be gloating HARD the next few weeks despite not actually being a Trump supporter, because I was right in so many ways.

But lets just sit on the first one

It's the economy, stupid.

 

[chardog]

Way Way Way too many I told you so to give out.

@Helden @Paynebringer @BFoe @Rational Poster


I will be gloating HARD the next few weeks despite not actually being a Trump supporter, because I was right in so many ways.

But lets just sit on the first one

It's the economy, stupid.

A stronger candidate might have fought harder, the Democrat base is so strong that kamala had a fighting chance…. And she was objectively a horrible human.

She’s practically kicking dirt in their faces


But then again, she showed her card with the beyonce bait and switch bs.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Whether you liked him or not as president, Obama was a great campaigner: well-spoken, charismatic and dynamic - able to really hold an audience on his own.

It's night and day comparing him to Harris and it's got nothing to do with gender, imo. I thought from the start she was an exceedingly weak candidate and stated this many times in my official Sherdog record. You can't appoint a non-entity like that to go against a charismatic con-artist type like Trump.

I'd agree with that as well although i think this time Trump was actually less effective than in 2016 or 2020.

Really though I think the big reasons besides simply looking to whoever wasnt in power for a change....

1.Biden/Harris admin did little to improve the lives of the average/poor population.
2.Trump wasnt coming off of mishandling Covid this time.
3.Biden/Harris have spent the last year directly abetting genocide, there both war criminals.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

Harris's voters were 55% women and 45% men, same as any other Democrat. Sexism had nothing to do with it.



Obama won BECAUSE he was black. All sorts of black voters who had never cast a ballot before came out to vote for the first black President.

That and he was articulate.

 

[Helden]

Way Way Way too many I told you so to give out.

@Helden @Paynebringer @BFoe @Rational Poster


I will be gloating HARD the next few weeks despite not actually being a Trump supporter, because I was right in so many ways.

But lets just sit on the first one

It's the economy, stupid.

Yeah, and Americans are actual retards if they think flat tariffs are going to help economy.

But hey, its them who will suffer, not me.

 

[BobsyaUncle]

Any of her cheerleaders earlier in this thread now going to admit what a terrible candidate she was?

 

[sleepwalk]

Shoulda let that squirrel be.

 

[Deaths Head]

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Would wager there will be less catch & release of criminals, less ineligible American and/or non-citizen illegals receiving free housing, medical care, SS, magic cards automatically refilled with spending money, less protection from Border Patrol, ICE Immigration & Customs Enforcement, less drivers without a driver's license being allowed to keep driving...

to name a few (soon to be reduced) problems you can just "circle around".

Even if he wins crime will go up under his policies as I stated catch and release are the same ppl that will find a way in anyway except we won’t have tabs on them , the reason fir catch and release is keeping tabs on them and that’s why 85% don’t have to be worried about , we’ll see if the shift changes under Trump and if media keeps the same energy ?

 

[Deaths Head]

I have no stakes in the game but you still super confident in Harris?

Nah I think it’s over first elected I got wrong ,not the end of the world ( not right away anyway ) I’m not some crazy politital guy that watches news all day long , this will definitely set us back as leaders of the leading clean energy we were progressing to though , ppl don’t realize more jobs were created from this and we were leading the way dependable on no countries we had the technology now environmental damage will come back thousand’s of jobs will be lost then made in terms of that and it’s bc Trump has stocks in the oil gas and whatever his ties are to big business.

Yea it’ll look good a few years even but in the long game it’s going backwards, I’m not shocked though ppl are just dumb in general over here that I’ve learned in the 50 years I’ve been here in this existence . Lol

Three steps to win over the United States .

1. Make sure you relate to uneducated masses to win them over .
2. Make sure you publicly admit to sexual assault and brag about it .
3. Promise the American public you will get rid of Paris agreement and weaken Nato .

These are just 3 so I’ll cut it there I’d need all night to keep going with this guy . Lol

 

[Seano]

Yeah, and Americans are actual retards if they think flat tariffs are going to help economy.

But hey, its them who will suffer, not me.

*angrily crosses and uncrosses legs*

 

[Red Dragoniop]

Yeah, and Americans are actual retards if they think flat tariffs are going to help economy.

But hey, its them who will suffer, not me.

Lol you were so sure harris was gonna win now hold on tight to that wig.. cause you in for a ride lol.... loser

 

[bng]

 

[KnightTemplar]

Yeah, and Americans are actual retards if they think flat tariffs are going to help economy.

But hey, its them who will suffer, not me.

You really thought Americans were going choose a DEI candidate for President?

Never change, Libtards. Never change.

 

[KnightTemplar]

I wanna give a shout out to the Black population. thank yall for always holding it down and doing right
despite this country not returning the favor...Yall the real mvps...

HOWEVER
WHITE WOMEN & LATINOS WTF YO

I guess just having the Knocked Up Slut Vote just wasn't enough in the end.