Elections Kamala Harris for POTUS

[ShadowRun]

LOL

Oh yea because dick cheney a VP never had any influence.


People got to make up their minds has she done nothing and has been worthless, or has she been involved with policies and has to stand behind her actions?

Harris' role in Afghanistan withdrawal a mystery despite being 'last person in the room' with Biden​

Harris confirmed in 2021 she was the 'last person in the room' with President Biden before he ordered the withdrawal of US troops in Afghanistan​

Harris' role in Afghanistan withdrawal a mystery despite being 'last person in the room' with Biden

Kamala Harris, who said she was the last person with President Biden before the decision on Afghanistan, has not been criticized much over the withdrawal.

www.foxnews.com

What did Kamala Harris accomplish as vice president?

It's not uncommon for the second-in-command to struggle to prove themselves in a role largely defined by behind-the-scenes work

theweek.com

 

[Rob Battisti]

The notion that she had free access to biden's mind and heart
This has got to be the most disingenuous take I've ever heard from you man.... Many presidents treat their vice president like red-headed stepchilds and are given tasks meant to make them undershine and that's just exactly how kamala was treated by Biden.

The notion that she had free access to biden's mind and heart is absolutely uninformed and ridiculous and I think it's disingenuous. Karma has some amazing policy positions that she's proposing that are kind of mind-blowing to me, but what makes you think Biden wanted to hear them?

Maybe all you listen to is right-wing news sources but I've heard reporting that that's how she was treated all through. I'm just wondering how it is you don't know that?

It's even speculated that that's one of the reasons she liked Walt so much because he just wanted to serve her agenda, wanted to be put to work rather than him being someone with ideas she needs to send away to make him look bad.

Are you… kidding me?

 

[Rob Battisti]

O

You're setting up some strawmen here, and coming off as incredibly obtuse.
The VP has pretty much always been more of a ceremonial position. What does "second in command" even mean ? Everything goes through the president. The VP does whatever the president wants them to do, but it's not like the VP has much of any direct power. Arguably, the first lady often seems to have more sway and influence than the VP does. The speaker of the House and Senate majority leader has more power than the VP. The VP only becomes relevant in the unlikely case that the president dies.

Who are all these people saying she was "chosen as his successor"? She was chosen as the VP for the exact same reason that all VPs are chosen: to help Biden get more votes to win the presidency.
That's why Harris chose Walz as her VP instead of another woman, or a black guy. VPs are not chosen for the specific task of 'taking over in case I die'.

Her input and ideas only matter if Biden wants them. I don't understand why that's hard to understand. She isn't the president. She doesn't get to put out her agenda as the VP.
Biden has his own agenda and ideas, so why would he take hers? He thinks he's doing a good job. And it's her job to do whatever the hell he tells her to do.

okay so then being VP is meaningless, she hasn’t advised on any policy and Biden was ruling without the aid of his administration.

Kamala will come in, with completely new ideas, all her own since her administration will have no bearing on her policy, and solve everything.

The ENTIRE TIME all I heard was “it’s Biden’s administration that is helping him!” Now it’s “the VP doesn’t do anything”. From “She’s his chosen successor! VP is such an accomplishment! She’s not a DEI hire!” To “you know, VPs are basically ignored”.

You are literally walking through this thread with clown shoes so big they can barely through the door.

@ShadowRun are they really this dense??

 

[Rob Battisti]

How well did the US perform in terms of inflation vs the rest of the world over the last 4 years?

Does Kamala have answers that she didn’t pass to Biden or did Biden ignore her?

 

[Fedor>Cain]

Does Kamala have answers that she didn’t pass to Biden or did Biden ignore her?

Inflation is not an issue exclusive to the United States.

We can't even start a discussion about something like this unless we are willing to discuss where the US ranks among other developed nations since the beginning of the pandemic.

Again, how is the US doing compatively to other developed nations?

The other part of your argument is also nonsensical. Maybe Kamala is the inflation wizard and passed it to Biden and he said "Fuck you Kamala, go get me a sammich." It's a strawman argument. You are arguing something that can never be proven or disproven lol.

It's also pretty hard to discuss inflation when the other guy is just lying about inflation and his economic stances every day.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Inflation is not an issue exclusive to the United States.

We can't even start a discussion about something like this unless we are willing to discuss where the US ranks among other developed nations since the beginning of the pandemic.

Again, how is the US doing compatively to other developed nations?

My brother in Christ, that is not the question. She made a claim and it’s an absurd claim. Just face it.

 

[Deleted member 592570]

Trumps press conference seems to be not going well?

So he's sounding sharp at a tack?

 

[Fedor>Cain]

My brother in Christ, that is not the question. She made a claim and it’s an absurd claim. Just face it.

That's exactly what I thought, Rob. You're just being disingenuous here.

You are shitting on Kamala Harris for not pulling out a laptop and giving you a presentation on inflation point by point while simultaneously ignoring all context to the discussion.

You are starting out at the premise that the Biden administration is doing awful with inflation in the first place. How bad is the Biden administration doing with inflation relative to the rest of the developed world? The United State's economy does not exist in it's own vacuum without the rest of the world effecting it.

So again I ask, let's start a discussion and see where it leads. How bad is inflation in the United States compared to the rest of the world's economies?

 

[Rob Battisti]

That's exactly what I thought, Rob. You're just being disingenuous here.

You are shitting on Kamala Harris for not pulling out a laptop and giving you a presentation on inflation point by point while simultaneously ignoring all context to the discussion.

You are starting out at the premise that the Biden administration is doing awful with inflation in the first place. How bad is the Biden administration doing with inflation relative to the rest of the developed world? The United State's economy does not exist in it's own vacuum without the rest of the world effecting it.

So again I ask, let's start a discussion and see where it leads. How bad is inflation in the United States compared to the rest of the world's economies?

Pulling out a laptop and making a presentation….

I didn’t say anything about Biden’s performance. I am specifically speaking to her comment. She made a comment claiming that she is going to start bringing down prices day 1 of her presidency.

So that assumes she is going to do something different, no?

She didn’t say “I’m going to continue the policies of this administration to keep bringing down prices”.

This presumes her policy will be different. If it’s different, and better, why as VP did she not make these recommendations. If she did, did Biden ignore her? If so, then why has he been celebrated for being so great?

 

[Fedor>Cain]

Pulling out a laptop and making a presentation….

I didn’t say anything about Biden’s performance. I am specifically speaking to her comment. She made a comment claiming that she is going to start bringing down prices day 1 of her presidency.

So that assumes she is going to do something different, no?

She didn’t say “I’m going to continue the policies of this administration to keep bringing down prices”.

This presumes her policy will be different. If it’s different, and better, why as VP did she not make these recommendations. If she did, did Biden ignore her? If so, then why has he been celebrated for being so great?

For one she has said she's going to go after corporate price gouging. I don't think anybody would argue that corporate price gouging isn't a problem when we have seen so many conferences calls with corporations straight up
bragging about price gouging to their investors.

I can see you aren't really interested in how well or poorly the United States has been dealing with inflation either.

 

[WhiteMousse]

Right. You definitely don’t want to face the master word-smith that is Donald Trump. He knows the most words and says the most things, people are saying.

He's definitely not a wordsmith

 

[Joe]

Oh god, I almost forgot about the 400 lb hacker!

One of the things thats very clear now is the reason he says hannibal lecter all the time when referring to assylum seekers is that he thinks they are literally from insane asylums. Like he doesnt know the difference or thinks they are connected.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Are you… kidding me?

No are you?

Literally nobody thinks that kamala has had the presidents ear in any serious way throughout this presidency....

It's just commonly spoken about man.....

You're working very hard to find fault with the Democrats while providing only barely lackluster criticisms of trump.

 

[koquerelle]

Do you have a link? I'm a retired vet and I'd love to see what's to the contrary.



Adam Kinzinger is a former Republican congressman and a USAF vet (like me) and he thinks it's bullplop.

An old Walz press release where he claimed he was a veteran of Operation Enduring Freedom.
https://web.archive.org/web/20060516203114/http://www.timwalz.org/media/pr/2006021876

Walz once said “We can make sure that those weapons of war, that I carried in war, is the only place where those weapons are at.” Everybody knows this is BS.

Two veterans paid to publish a letter in the West Central Tribune, a Minnesota newspaper, in 2018. Walz, who's always been quick to answer his critics, remained quiet about it.
https://www.wctrib.com/community/letters/the-truth-about-tim-walz

We also know he lied about his rank.

I don't think it's a big deal, politicians have a tendency to embellish things, but let's not pretend it didn't happen.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

An old Walz press release where he claimed he was a veteran of Operation Enduring Freedom.
https://web.archive.org/web/20060516203114/http://www.timwalz.org/media/pr/2006021876

Walz once said “We can make sure that those weapons of war, that I carried in war, is the only place where those weapons are at.” Everybody knows this is BS.

Two veterans paid to publish a letter in the West Central Tribune, a Minnesota newspaper, in 2018. Walz, who's always been quick to answer his critics, remained quiet about it.
https://www.wctrib.com/community/letters/the-truth-about-tim-walz

We also know he lied about his rank.

I don't think it's a big deal, politicians have a tendency to embellish things, but let's not pretend it didn't happen.

He didn't lie about his rank LMAO. His rank dropped when he retired because he ran for Congress instead of completing courses to keep his rank.

He also IS a veteran of Operation Enduring Freedom and was deployed to Italy lol.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

O

okay so then being VP is meaningless, she hasn’t advised on any policy and Biden was ruling without the aid of his administration.

Kamala will come in, with completely new ideas, all her own since her administration will have no bearing on her policy, and solve everything.

The ENTIRE TIME all I heard was “it’s Biden’s administration that is helping him!” Now it’s “the VP doesn’t do anything”. From “She’s his chosen successor! VP is such an accomplishment! She’s not a DEI hire!” To “you know, VPs are basically ignored”.

You are literally walking through this thread with clown shoes so big they can barely through the door.

@ShadowRun are they really this dense??

lol WTF are you talking about? You are the one having trouble understanding something that is very simple. This isn't new. This isn't unique to Kamala.
Can you list out some accomplishments of previous VPs?
The VP is chosen on their ability to help get voters for the president. They are not princes and princesses groomed to take the throne once the old man dies. Most of them are forgotten and don't do much after the position.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of our system if you think otherwise.

Who said she never advised Biden? Who said Biden ruled without any aid of his administration?
NOBODY said that. You're shadowboxing with yourself.
Biden is the president. Just because Kamala gives him advise, it does not mean he has to follow it. Biden's administration helps Biden do BIDEN'S agenda.
You are the dense one here, sir. Just because I have a good idea, it doesn't mean my boss is going to use it.
How much advice do you think Trump took from Pence?

 

[koquerelle]

He didn't lie about his rank LMAO. His rank dropped when he retired because he ran for Congress instead of completing courses to keep his rank.

He also IS a veteran of Operation Enduring Freedom and was deployed to Italy lol.

Politico noticed something yesterday.

"On its website, the Harris campaign axed a reference to Walz as a “retired command sergeant major” and now says that he once served at the command sergeant major rank — a small change that nonetheless reflects his true rank at retirement from the Army National Guard."

He didn't lie, but felt the need to change it. Sure thing, bud.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

LOL

Oh yea because dick cheney a VP never had any influence.


People got to make up their minds has she done nothing and has been worthless, or has she been involved with policies and has to stand behind her actions?

Harris' role in Afghanistan withdrawal a mystery despite being 'last person in the room' with Biden​

Harris confirmed in 2021 she was the 'last person in the room' with President Biden before he ordered the withdrawal of US troops in Afghanistan​

Harris' role in Afghanistan withdrawal a mystery despite being 'last person in the room' with Biden

Kamala Harris, who said she was the last person with President Biden before the decision on Afghanistan, has not been criticized much over the withdrawal.

www.foxnews.com

What did Kamala Harris accomplish as vice president?

It's not uncommon for the second-in-command to struggle to prove themselves in a role largely defined by behind-the-scenes work

theweek.com

Yeah bringing down prices lowering med costs and reducing rent are just terrible ideas...... None of that will help the working class ..

 

[RoastBeast]

No are you?

Literally nobody thinks that kamala has had the presidents ear in any serious way throughout this presidency....

It's just commonly spoken about man.....

You're working very hard to find fault with the Democrats while providing only barely lackluster criticisms of trump.

Who has had his ear? Clearly he's too old to be using what's between his ears to make any important decisions so who exactly is running the country?

 

[Paynebringer]

Why did Harris backed off from the FOX News Debate?


Was she afraid she wont be getting scripted questions?

How can you back out of something you never agreed to in the first place? That was all Trump made-up debate the only official debate I know of is The ABC debate which they both agreed to and which is still on. If Trump wants a safe place debate then have his team call her team and negotiate the terms of the debate, like you all did for the ABC face-off which Trump is now backing out of.