Elections Kamala Harris for POTUS

[Paynebringer]

What’s up with him softening his stance on electric vehicles bc Elon is supporting him?

To deep-pocket donors. Now that batteries are out of the water, will he now swim towards sharks or illegal immigrants on dingies?

 

[Strychnine]

i'll bet he even slept his way to the top. the original hawk tua mod.

 

[Joe]

this is the first poll ive seen where trump is in single digits among black voters

 

[AWilder]

What’s up with him softening his stance on electric vehicles bc Elon is supporting him?

LMAO i guess the oil CEOs didn't believe him.

What Trump promised oil CEOs as he asked them to steer $1 billion to his campaign​

Trump’s response stunned several of the executives in the room overlooking the ocean: You all are wealthy enough, he said, that you should raise $1 billion to return me to the White House. At the dinner, he vowed to immediately reverse dozens of President Biden’s environmental rules and policies and stop new ones from being enacted, according to people with knowledge of the meeting, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a private conversation.

Giving $1 billion would be a “deal,” Trump said, because of the taxation and regulation they would avoid thanks to him, according to the people.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/09/trump-oil-industry-campaign-money/

 

[skysolo]

Yet it's only Republicans that seem to be crying about this? While those same primary voters are donating money hand over fist making rally mobs of _____ <insert name for Harris in support of her. I would say that is a vote of approval for going with Harris. Republicans had their primaries and chose the convicted felon, and I know for sure not all are happy with that choice, I see it being voiced all the time. I'm sure Republicans would love a long messy drawn-out time-consuming process inviting separation and infighting, then this wave of enthusiasm, unity, media time, and money coming in for the new party ticket.

But Trump Bros. #21 enters the chat to talk about republicans instead of addressing Harris.

Harris has gone through two election cycles and won zero primary votes. The subject is the dems taking away a chance for their own voters to pick their own candidate.

But, but, but, but, but.......

 

[DoctorTaco]

While simultaneously pissing off the "drill baby drill" big oil supporters he has. Good example of him going rogue. Obviously for vain reasons, but results in a much more balanced position on energy as a result, even if what got him there were the wrong reasons.

Again, I'm not advocating for Trump as he clearly has many flaws, but there is much more parody with him than the DNC robots.

I might not have the timelines correct but didn’t Trump have a pretty anti EV stance up until the point that Elon started to support him? To the point where Trump said as much?

 

[Snubnoze707]

I might not have the timelines correct but didn’t Trump have a pretty anti EV stance up until the point that Elon started to support him? To the point where Trump said as much?

From my recollection his arguments were against the push to ban gasoline cars, not necessarily anti-EV. Since the Elon support, he still keeps pretty much the same message. He's been saying their should be gas, hybrid, and EV, but EV shouldn't take over everything.

 

[Phisher]

Lol, where is this to be found other than X?

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6360012177112

 

[Fedor>Cain]

this is the first poll ive seen where trump is in single digits among black voters

Who could have seen this coming? Certainly not the resident goofy right wingers on this forum

lol what? I said she’s more racially ambiguous, acts VERY WHITE and isn’t what most black people see in themselves. She doesn’t resonate with a lot of the identity they’re selling her on. I’m not a republican. She’s more a snooty white progressives dream.

Shit, even BLM is questioning her validity as a candidate. Black Twitter, social media and black people in general aren’t showing the same enthusiasm as the white progressives and elites. I been through Obama with a big black family and Kamala isn’t getting anyone excited and many don’t see her as very black. But sure like anything else it’s Nazi and incels……..

Want to bet it will be worse than the status quo. She will do worse in nearly every demographic than the average democrat usually does. She will get less of the demographics than 2020 or prior and probably have people not showing up to vote for her. Hr of course she will still win those demographic but by lower %’s than normal.

She’s polling worse with independent women, young voters and black and Latino males (where Trump is ahead by historical margins). I’m not saying this as a Trump supporter. I’m saying this as a democrat objectively looking at data. I’m doubting she will do better in these demographics than Biden in 2020 or Obama x2 or what democrats usually pull there. This is a tough task and someone who did very poorly in the primaries and has a terrible approval rating. I’m just skeptical with this choice.

No the Obama branding and connection flocked black people to him. Ever see Bidens awkward fried chicken, burger and basketball video where he has dinner with a black family? It’s awkward af. Kamala it would be just a weird. Kamala is clearly insulated from every day black folks.



People from the ghetto aren’t going to be that high on a suburban uppity giggly prosecutor regardless. Especially one that barely shares the traits and characteristics they see in themselves.

Nobody sees Kamala as someone that comes from there either. But again I’m talking about the average black person and how they would see someone like her as one of them. You’re injecting socioeconomics and other demographics here.

I think she is a shitty candidate and a tough sell honestly and that someone better could have been selected who could sell themselves better in the little time they have to do so. Someone not connected to this administration and with less of a history that is unappealing. I don’t think beating the identity drum is enough “woman black asian” voters are fatigued by that and want substance.

That being said if Trump loses to Kamala it would be absolutely hilarious.

lol that dumb bitch got told.

How is it racist? Kamala did a Hillary and put on a fake accent at the last rally so I think calling her out on that is fair game and has nothing to do with race.

Surprise surprise she lied about trump delaying. It was HER that was running late.

Tariq MAGA

 

[skysolo]

Who could have seen this coming? Certainly not the resident goofy right wingers on this forum

But Trump Bros. #14 quotes me as if I'm voting for Trump.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

But Trump Bros. #14 quotes me as if I'm voting for Trump.

I don't give a fuck who you are voting for.

Maybe you should go back to posting random hilariously incorrect tweets.

 

[skysolo]

I don't give a fuck who you are voting for.

Maybe you should go back to posting random hilariously incorrect tweets.

You forgot to say but Trump or weird this time. Try to stay on brand please.

The tweet had zero to do with polling.

 

[Snubnoze707]

I might not have the timelines correct but didn’t Trump have a pretty anti EV stance up until the point that Elon started to support him? To the point where Trump said as much?

I did a bit of digging to give a better response.

July 1, Virginia:

"Why would somebody want 100% electric vehicles? They don’t go far. They’re too expensive....... They’re making far more electric vehicles than you need. But they do have a place. They have a great place, but it’s 9%, 7%, 8%. You have hundreds of thousands of unsold cars. This would be a great time for you to go buy an electric vehicle."

July 9, Florida:

"We want American energy independence, not all electric cars and the Green New Scam............I will repeal every disastrous Biden regulation, of which there are many, cancel crooked Joe’s insane electric vehicle mandate. How stupid?..............We are a nation whose leaders are demanding all electric cars, despite the fact that they don’t go far, costs too much, and whose batteries are produced in China with materials only available in China, when an unlimited amount of gasoline is available inexpensively in the United States but not available in China."

Elon endorses trump on 7/13

July 22, Michigan:

"Elon, I love Elon Musk. Do we love him? I love him. I’m constantly talking about electric cars, but I don’t mean I’m against … I’m totally for them, but whatever the market says. If it’s 10% of the market, 12%, 7%, 20%, whatever it is, it’s okay, but you can’t have 100% electric cars."

Aug 5, Atlanta:

"She wants to get rid of gas-powered cars and replace them with all electric. They don’t go far. They cost too much. They’re all made in China. Other than that, they’re fantastic. And I’m for electric cars. I have to be, because Elon endorsed me very strongly, Elon. So I have no choice. But he knows."

So it looks like his messaging is pretty consistent in being against a mandate of converting all vehicles into electric. He does however butter up his messaging for Elon to acknowledge the endorsement.

BTW, I found this site very useful:

Transcript Library Of Current Events | Rev

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[Paynebringer]

1. Job Competition: Many Black Americans, particularly those with lower levels of education, often compete for jobs in sectors that also attract immigrant workers. This increased competition can lead to lower wages and fewer job opportunities.

1. Job Competition: Many Black Americans, particularly those with lower levels of education, often compete for jobs in sectors that also attract immigrant workers. This increased competition can lead to lower wages and fewer job opportunities.

Blacks with lower levels of education now must compete with immigrants, non-blacks need not fear.

2. Wage Depression: The influx of illegals can create a surplus of low-skilled labor, which can drive down wages in certain industries. This wage depression tends to affect Black workers more significantly because they are overrepresented in these low-wage, low-skill jobs

Illegals drive down wages for low-skilled workers, but they drive up earnings for the companies, owners, and donors who nod & wink at Donald saying "It's all good baby" Modern-day slavery is a profitable thing.

3.Economic Inequality: The economic strain caused by illegal immigration can exacerbate existing inequalities. For instance, resources such as public education and healthcare may become stretched, impacting communities that are already underserved

I find it funny you mention economic inequality, that's a Democratic address and something Republicans routinely shut down or ignore when this issue is raised. Throughout Trump's whole term, he talked of a new healthcare plan, that never happened. Talked about infrastructure a good thing to create long-term good-paying jobs, never happened. All those things either happened or were raised under Democrat governance.

4. Urban Concentration: Both Black Americans and illegal immigrants are often concentrated in large metropolitan areas. This geographic overlap can intensify competition for jobs and resources in these regions.

Urban concentration is another Democratic talking point, build more affordable housing, when was the last time you heard a Republican say such a thing?

But I think you already know all this, you just want to be able to twist it into something racist. That acknowledging that the loss of low-skilled labor jobs disproportionally hurts the Black community is somehow racist and means we think that is all black people are capable of. It's transparent and obvious that you care more about scoring points by labelling the other side racist than actually helping the Black community that you pretend to care about.

I commend you for saying the quiet part out loud that blacks are less educated, lower skilled, lower paid, and suffer more economic inequality. So tell me all those white men/women with no college degree let alone a high school one who supports Trump are completely immune to the effects of illegal immigration? I've seen a majority of Trump supporters at his rallies and most look like they can't get in the lobby of Trump Tower even with a maga hat on.

If Trump was so concerned about black jobs he wouldn't have blocked the bi-partisan bill to address the issue and protect so-called black jobs, a far better issue to make persist and use for political gain.

 

[DoctorTaco]

I did a bit of digging to give a better response.

July 1, Virginia:

"Why would somebody want 100% electric vehicles? They don’t go far. They’re too expensive....... They’re making far more electric vehicles than you need. But they do have a place. They have a great place, but it’s 9%, 7%, 8%. You have hundreds of thousands of unsold cars. This would be a great time for you to go buy an electric vehicle."

July 9, Florida:

"We want American energy independence, not all electric cars and the Green New Scam............I will repeal every disastrous Biden regulation, of which there are many, cancel crooked Joe’s insane electric vehicle mandate. How stupid?..............We are a nation whose leaders are demanding all electric cars, despite the fact that they don’t go far, costs too much, and whose batteries are produced in China with materials only available in China, when an unlimited amount of gasoline is available inexpensively in the United States but not available in China."

Elon endorses trump on 7/13

July 22, Michigan:

"Elon, I love Elon Musk. Do we love him? I love him. I’m constantly talking about electric cars, but I don’t mean I’m against … I’m totally for them, but whatever the market says. If it’s 10% of the market, 12%, 7%, 20%, whatever it is, it’s okay, but you can’t have 100% electric cars."

Aug 5, Atlanta:

"She wants to get rid of gas-powered cars and replace them with all electric. They don’t go far. They cost too much. They’re all made in China. Other than that, they’re fantastic. And I’m for electric cars. I have to be, because Elon endorsed me very strongly, Elon. So I have no choice. But he knows."

So it looks like his messaging is pretty consistent in being against a mandate of converting all vehicles into electric. He does however butter up his messaging for Elon to acknowledge the endorsement.

BTW, I found this site very useful:

Transcript Library Of Current Events | Rev

Explore audio and video transcripts from political figures, celebrities, entertainers, CEO’s, public figures, and more. Updated daily and highly accurate.

www.rev.com

Thanks man

 

[filthybliss]

He’s a troll that connived his way into a moderator position, same as several other of the political posters (all left wing, no nepotism there). He's a garbage poster, let alone mod. Notice how much the other garbage left wing guys get away with. If you get annoyed, just remind yourself of how pathetic his life is that he lashes out like that.

You are crying about being oppressed on a karate forum because you are a right winger? You sound like a Trailer Park version of Jordan Peterson. You still have twitter to cry about your sexual inactivity and how everyone but yourself is to blame for it....

 

[44nutman]

Kamala and Walz had to move to a bigger venue in Detroit. There is supposed to 50,000 screaming Kamala and Walzamaniacs watching them put a verbal beat down on a couch fucker and an Orange fat fucker.
So if Trump wins can people start pointing to Harris larger crowd size over Trump’s dwindling crowd size as a reason no way she lost.
BTW Ellis just flipped in the AZ phoney elector case.
Trump what you going to do,brother when Kamala Harris runs wild all over you.
This is the biggest momentum shift I have ever seen in a Presidential race. The walls at Mar a Lago are all ketchup red from all the L’s DonOLD is taking.

 

[Paynebringer]

But Trump Bros. #21 enters the chat to talk about republicans instead of addressing Harris.

Harris has gone through two election cycles and won zero primary votes. The subject is the dems taking away a chance for their own voters to pick their own candidate.

But, but, but, but, but.......

Feel free to show me the mass outrage you seem to be looking for, so far all I see is you lot crying about how unfair it is. You picked your criminal candidate stick with him if Democratic voters feel disenfranchised about how it went down, then don't vote for her. Now go fix your lip.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Feel free to show me the mass outrage you seem to be looking for, so far all I see is you lot crying about how unfair it is. You picked your criminal candidate stick with him if Democratic voters feel disenfranchised about how it went down, then don't vote for her. Now go fix your lip.

He's not a right winger, quite the opposite. He's a cynical far left nutjob who spends all his energy nitpicking Democrats. If you watch a few Jimmy Dore videos you'll get a good sense of where skysolo is coming from because he mostly parrots his talking points and those adjacent to Dore.

 

[Lead]

He's not a right winger, quite the opposite. He's a cynical far left nutjob who spends all his energy nitpicking Democrats. If you watch a few Jimmy Dore videos you'll get a good sense of where skysolo is coming from because he mostly parrots his talking points and those adjacent to Dore.

I never got to hear Dore until he came on JRE. Fully convinced now he’s just the lefts version of Tim Pool. Unsure why anyone would follow that guy.