just to remove all doubt about Tony/Werdum dust-up

Tony is fighting Bobby Green in a few weeks. This is the type of fight that Tony should be fighting. He had no chance against top 5’s but a top 20 with a big name is what his winning streak was based on. Maybe he will win and start a new 10 fight winning streak or maybe he’ll lose and his ardent fans will claim Tony had a broken arm (again.)
 
Is this a genuine question, or you got something on your mind?
If he's doing in PT it's like he's got something to hide, considering he's fluent in English and Spanish. Why would you trash talk someone in a language they can't understand?
Funny that TS is calling Tony passive-aggressive and saying "Tony insults Werdum to bystanders rather than to Werdum", when Werdum himself was way more indirect than Tony.
 
If he's doing in PT it's like he's got something to hide, considering he's fluent in English and Spanish. Why would you trash talk someone in a language they can't understand?
Funny that TS is calling Tony passive-aggressive and saying "Tony insults Werdum to bystanders rather than to Werdum", when Werdum himself was way more indirect than Tony.
Because he's Brazilian and Portuguese is his first language.
 
Yea, Chael laid the blueprint by basically developing a full blown WWE persona after coming over from the WEC buyout. Conor is naturally a wild showman that fully adopted the blueprint to sell fights, though he's now on the brink of crazy. I do feel like Colby only got it half right.

I only say half right because Chael and Conor wear their personas 24/7. Colby lost a bit of steam by not. On top of that, his persona usually just rubbed people the wrong way; he wasn't likable.

No matter the nonsense that came out of Chael and Conor, they were great talkers, and most importantly they were always likable (even to the people that hated them). Their use of comedy kept them on that fine line, whereas Colby just acted like an arrogant douchebag. He did that well, but it would've backfired fast if he wasn't also a good fighter.

Tony was a great fighter that didn't quite tick right; that's what sold his fights. That was a solid mix that didn't need any added ingredients.

Whomever agreed with him that it would be a good idea to suddenly start disrespecting the media and other fighters the way he did should be fired.

Agreed again. With Colby, it reminds me of the label I was stuck with often growing up, "class clown." I always took some measure of pride at that. It's easy to be disruptive. Clowning, making the teacher look foolish, getting big laughs. That shits an art. I resented being lumped in with the troglodytes who'd just make unexpected fart noises or say swear words. Motherfucker, there's an art to this.

I feel like that's Colby. He's the fighter equivalent to the kid drawing dicks all over the school. It's like, man, that's not funny or interesting. Sure youre getting a lot of attention, but you're just making shit messy and pissing everyone off
 
Tony is paid in full with the Karma he created around himself.
I hope he can move on now & have a good laugh about it all.
 
Tony is fighting Bobby Green in a few weeks. This is the type of fight that Tony should be fighting. He had no chance against top 5’s but a top 20 with a big name is what his winning streak was based on. Maybe he will win and start a new 10 fight winning streak or maybe he’ll lose and his ardent fans will claim Tony had a broken arm (again.)

Tony should not be fighting anyone. He has severed brain damage and mental issues.

Probably a 50% chance he Chris Benoits a family and a 90% chance he takes his own life at some point.
 
Tony the type of guy to make TS write an essay about something he forgot the next day.

Legend.
 
Nice thread but in a month or two I'm going to make a random comment about Werdum being a dick to Tony in a hardly related thread in hopes of triggering TS.
 
If he's doing in PT it's like he's got something to hide, considering he's fluent in English and Spanish. Why would you trash talk someone in a language they can't understand?
Funny that TS is calling Tony passive-aggressive and saying "Tony insults Werdum to bystanders rather than to Werdum", when Werdum himself was way more indirect than Tony.
How is standing up and lobbing every insult in the world at someone "indirect" in any way lol.

Sort of weird you are overanalyzing him speaking in his first language. Obviously you tend to speak your first language when you're pissed.

Besides, he starts cursing him out in Spanish right after the Portuguese...
Agreed again. With Colby, it reminds me of the label I was stuck with often growing up, "class clown." I always took some measure of pride at that. It's easy to be disruptive. Clowning, making the teacher look foolish, getting big laughs. That shits an art. I resented being lumped in with the troglodytes who'd just make unexpected fart noises or say swear words. Motherfucker, there's an art to this.

I feel like that's Colby. He's the fighter equivalent to the kid drawing dicks all over the school. It's like, man, that's not funny or interesting. Sure youre getting a lot of attention, but you're just making shit messy and pissing everyone off
I don't even think it earned mass-retard appeal of whatever the point of it was. Don't know off the top of my head but I don't think his PPV #s were anything special even at his best. Obviously the Mas fight did the biggest draw of his career, but of course that's because Mas was in the equation.

Nice thread but in a month or two I'm going to make a random comment about Werdum being a dick to Tony in a hardly related thread in hopes of triggering TS.
lol touche
 
Tony should not be fighting anyone. He has severed brain damage and mental issues.

Probably a 50% chance he Chris Benoits a family and a 90% chance he takes his own life at some point.
You certainly have a valid point. In other sports that pay more you are generally drafted out of a big name school and have a degree and can probably earn after you retire but fighting, both MMA and boxing, generally get their athletes from broken home, trailer parks with no other options whatsoever. They are dangerous people by their very nature more often than not and when the money runs out they get scarier.
 
That's not what you said?...Why, because you didn't use those exact words sir?

He's obviously pretty special since he's one of only a handful of guys that have accomplished a win streak that long in what has been the #1 weight class.

Tony 12 fight streak

Islam 12 fight streak currently

Khabib 11 fight streak (missed weight / he had 2 catchweight fights) so he only had 11 official LW fights

Charles 11 fight streak

lol @ several Tony is tied for the longest LW streak currently. Islam probably will break it.
 
They're both in the wrong. Tony with his passive aggressive attitude and Werdum being rude talking over the guy when he's clearly answering questions. Whoever thought it was a good idea to put these two together have worms in their brain.

I'd rather hang with Werdum any day of the week. Tony is an immensely unlikable and unstable asshole. Tony is one of those guys you can't take out anywhere because he's continually in confrontations over absolutely nothing and it's always someone else's fault. It's funny how Tony is so well received considering how much of a total dick he is.
 
Tony 12 fight streak

Islam 12 fight streak currently

Khabib 11 fight streak (missed weight / he had 2 catchweight fights) so he only had 11 official LW fights

Charles 11 fight streak

lol @ several Tony is tied for the longest LW streak currently. Islam probably will break it.

Exactly my point sir, a handful of fighters.
 
There have been several.




Accusing me of saying "he sucks" (when I never said that) is infinitesimally dumber.

It makes you look like you can't even read,

Why you never provided an evidence for your claim that there have been several?

If your claims are real you should be able to back it up with evidence.

Otherwise it seems that you make things up and expect others to believe it.

Where are you my friend?

You don't want to validate your point or rather prefer ignorance when challenged and found lying?
 
This is an attempt to post the real video instead of the bullshit edited video (and a larger bullshit narrative) fostered in places like the other thread and among several fans that don't know the larger story.

If you don't want to watch the whole video, I've got a summary here for you:

Start: Werdum is friendly, does a fist bump with Tony

5:00: Karyn starts interviewing Tony. Asks him if he’s taking Kevin Lee seriously. Tony replies that he’s only there because he has to be there (AKA he doesn’t want to talk to her). She replies it isn’t all bad.

5:45: After Tony gives a nonsensical reply to Karyn basically droning on about how he is a badass he then completely randomly states “I could be fighting Werdum for a fucking title, and I’d kick this guy’s ass” while pointing to Werdum who is seated right next to him. Werdum clearly hears him and has a surprised/confused look on his face. But he shows restraint and doesn’t react to this guy talking shit next to him who said to a third party that he'd kick Werdum's ass while Werdum is present.

6:00: Another narcissistic personality disorder rant from Tony about how great he is and how he “doesn’t see any other bitch asses fucking doing the same shit I’m doing.” More talk about how he is an inspiration to everyone online. Says who the fuck are Khabib and Conor. Says other fighters are “fake ass motherfuckers”

7:15: Another interviewer asks him about his fight prep. Tony says he isn’t eating “bourgie-ass food” as Werdum eats next to him and then drones some more about how great and special he is. Werdum, once again, shows restraint and tries to tune this asshole out chatting on the phone to someone / clearly is getting more annoyed the more Tony rants about how he’s the fucking greatest thing since sliced bread non-stop and insults every pro fighter on Earth.

9:00: Karyn lobs yet another softball about how Tony owns himself or whatever fluff talking point will encourage part 54 of the Tony monologue about how special he is. Tony's reply is to somehow transition to talking about how people can kiss his ass. Then calls Nate and Conor “pieces of shit”

10:00: Werdum talks to someone in the background. Tony cuts him off and puts his hand in his face to interrupt Werdum. Werdum finally has had enough bullshit and responds to him, calling him on his bullshit.

10:30: In a classic passive-aggressive move, Tony insults Werdum to bystanders rather than to Werdum. He calls Werdum “fake” to his interviewers while not looking at Werdum. He basically confirms he was insulting Werdum at the 6-minute mark when he labeled other fighters “fake ass motherfuckers.” Werdum proceeds to call him out for being an asshole after enduring 10 minutes of this utter bullshit.

10:45: Clearly having enough, Werdum stands. Tony stands in response and calls Werdum a “punk ass.” In classic passive-aggressive move #2, Tony insults Werdum to his face but then instinctively turns to OTHER people and suggests Werdum is somehow bullying HIM. “Big guy, huh?” thus fueling the BS narrative of the poor wittle LW getting picked on by the big bad HW for no weason boo hoo.

11:00: Once there is a third party between the two of them creating distance he sits down and says “have fun fighting on my undercard” and the ankle pick comment (again... now that they’re separated). Tony effortlessly transitions into part 85 of his narcissistic personality disorder speech, and attributes the dust up to his inherent greatness bothering other fighters, completely unable to perceive the fact that it might have had something to do with him being a prick for 10 minutes straight.

12:00: When the interviewer asks what that was all about, Tony nonsensically suggests Werdum is playing “grabass” with his manager, then plays the “HW trying to pick a fight with a 155er” card for the shit he just instigated and suggests Werdum is mad because he “got his ass knocked out” (Werdum had just lost the HW belt to Stipe around this time)

12:45: Congratulates himself on his supernatural ability to “read people” and credits that to his diagnosis of Werdum as “fake.” Tony pulls down his hood, now relaxing to transition into spewing more negativity/insults now that the big mean HW man that held him accountable has left








See above please guys / watch the unedited video.

Anyway... yeah. Sort of weird this is still necessary and that the fake video (and fake Tony narrative overall) still persists. If anything this is reflective of the fact that the "where's your kid" guy and the "I'll fight Werdum" guy and the "I broke my training partner's rib, it was great!" guy and the restraining order guy may have gotten his head so far up his ass due to the fact that the media and fans, rather than question any of it, lobbed "boy you are so unique and great" softballs/memes throughout the entirety of that process SOLELY because he happened to be on a win streak. Maybe if more Werdums in the world held him accountable for his behavior he wouldn't have gotten the positive reinforcement pushing him to become so unpleasant.

/end of rant and eagerly await all the "fuck you he's amazing" talk


THANK YOU!

I've been sick and tired for years of this Werdum was being a bully false narrative.

I also don't get any of these people that think Tony isn't a complete train wreck of a person, he always has been and I think, always will be.
 
THANK YOU!

I've been sick and tired for years of this Werdum was being a bully false narrative.

I also don't get any of these people that think Tony isn't a complete train wreck of a person, he always has been and I think, always will be.
You're welcome man. Werdum explained it himself in this video shot right after the incident:

Tony went way overboard with his "bad energy" and it is bullshit to say that just because Werdum's body weight was "HW" that he isn't allowed to say anything to an incessant asshole who just so happens to be a LW. Also Werdum pointed out that it was bullshit that Tony justified all his shitty behavior by saying that he happened to dislike Werdum's manager... they're two different goddamn people.

Accountability brother... has nothing to do with weight classes. None of this "I can do whatever I want and not be held accountable because I'm XYZ privilege" nonsense, in this instance "XYZ" equaling "lower weight class."
 
When the asshole and the dick collides, shits gonna be poppin' off...
 
Only on sherdog do we get breakdowns of years old footage that's completely irrelevant now...
 
How is standing up and lobbing every insult in the world at someone "indirect" in any way lol.

Sort of weird you are overanalyzing him speaking in his first language. Obviously you tend to speak your first language when you're pissed.

Besides, he starts cursing him out in Spanish right after the Portuguese...

lol touche

It's indirect because he knows Tony doesn't speak Portuguese. Werdum is fluent in Spanish (since he grew up in Spain for 10 years and does the UFC Spanish commentary) and I believe in English too. It would have taken no extra effort for him to speak in Spanish or maybe English, yet he switched to Portuguese. I come from a bi/tri-lingual family...the ones who are fluent in their 2nd/3rd language and use it on a regular basis (like Werdum) don't have to switch to their first language when pissed, even when they've been at the point of fighting or threatening to kill. I think he made the choice to speak in PT to let off steam while also avoiding any any proper argument.
 
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