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Under what rules? There's no unified rules.
At a high-performance level, you wil not see a world champion of a discipline, be a world champion in another discipline (and if there's an example, it's borderline and not representative of any sample size, so save the googling time).
It takes years (if not a lifetime) of specialization in training to perform at the elite. And rule sets are part of the specialization.
Even people who were elite at their sports, once they switch to another sport, they see their level decrease in the original discipline they were practicing.
An analogy i make to people who don't know much about combat sports:
Imagine all combat sports are "racing". In racing, there's Formula 1, 2, 3, rally, Nascar, drag racing, etc. There's no interchangeable champions between those different types of racing, either, just like in combat sports. They're all different and require specialization.
So in the end, unless you can manage to make an "even" ruleset for all... who cares if Galvao can beat Valuev in BJJ? Or if Karelin can beat Riner in Greco? Or if Vettel can beat Loeb on F1? The opposites would also happen if you switch the sports.
Interestingly enough, on 9th of december my SAMBO team will be participating at a grappling event, ESL in Guadalajara.
4 team format:
There's 10th Planet, Luta Livre, "ESL" (BJJ champions) and SAMBO.
5 guys per team. 400kg per team. 7 minute matches.
All submissions allowed.
Stand up fighting at least 1 minute.
Guard pulling= -1 point.
Throws and takedowns with high amplitude= 4 points
Guard pass = 3 points
Mount or back take = 4 points
Sweeps and low amplitude throws/takedowns = 2 points
Must stabilize positions for points for 3 seconds
If you submit your opponent, then another guy from the other team will enter to replace him. Can face/beat a maximum of two opponents.
The rules obviously favour BJJ heavily, since it's pretty much bjj with all subs allowed and a little extra for high amplitude takedowns.
I'll share some results.
At a high-performance level, you wil not see a world champion of a discipline, be a world champion in another discipline (and if there's an example, it's borderline and not representative of any sample size, so save the googling time).
It takes years (if not a lifetime) of specialization in training to perform at the elite. And rule sets are part of the specialization.
Even people who were elite at their sports, once they switch to another sport, they see their level decrease in the original discipline they were practicing.
An analogy i make to people who don't know much about combat sports:
Imagine all combat sports are "racing". In racing, there's Formula 1, 2, 3, rally, Nascar, drag racing, etc. There's no interchangeable champions between those different types of racing, either, just like in combat sports. They're all different and require specialization.
So in the end, unless you can manage to make an "even" ruleset for all... who cares if Galvao can beat Valuev in BJJ? Or if Karelin can beat Riner in Greco? Or if Vettel can beat Loeb on F1? The opposites would also happen if you switch the sports.
Interestingly enough, on 9th of december my SAMBO team will be participating at a grappling event, ESL in Guadalajara.
4 team format:
There's 10th Planet, Luta Livre, "ESL" (BJJ champions) and SAMBO.
5 guys per team. 400kg per team. 7 minute matches.
All submissions allowed.
Stand up fighting at least 1 minute.
Guard pulling= -1 point.
Throws and takedowns with high amplitude= 4 points
Guard pass = 3 points
Mount or back take = 4 points
Sweeps and low amplitude throws/takedowns = 2 points
Must stabilize positions for points for 3 seconds
If you submit your opponent, then another guy from the other team will enter to replace him. Can face/beat a maximum of two opponents.
The rules obviously favour BJJ heavily, since it's pretty much bjj with all subs allowed and a little extra for high amplitude takedowns.
I'll share some results.
Just to add:
Even in arts which share a LOT of things luke judo/sambo or MMA/Combat SAMBO, this rule still applies Sidelnikov, Nemkov, Mokhnatkin (Mikhail and Marina) are all almost unstoppable beasts in sambo but do just "good" in MMA.
The Kurzhev twins (Ali and Uali) are multiple times SAMBO world champions, and while they get international medals in judo in some big tournaments, they are not the no.1 choice for the judo olympic russian team.
Fedor Emelianenko lost in SAMBO before he started losing in MMA. Almost any and all coaches you talk to, thought it was only natural since he was focusing on MMA, not SAMBO.
Khabib, who is undefeated and smashes in MMA, was not a FIAS sambo world champion. He was a champion in some small combat sambo federation and he lost a few times in smaller tournaments.
Many BJJ "world champions" would not make it through a collegiate wrestling season without pinning themselves a hundred times against 17 year old kids. Yet they would submit the very same kids a few times per minute.
Even in arts which share a LOT of things luke judo/sambo or MMA/Combat SAMBO, this rule still applies Sidelnikov, Nemkov, Mokhnatkin (Mikhail and Marina) are all almost unstoppable beasts in sambo but do just "good" in MMA.
The Kurzhev twins (Ali and Uali) are multiple times SAMBO world champions, and while they get international medals in judo in some big tournaments, they are not the no.1 choice for the judo olympic russian team.
Fedor Emelianenko lost in SAMBO before he started losing in MMA. Almost any and all coaches you talk to, thought it was only natural since he was focusing on MMA, not SAMBO.
Khabib, who is undefeated and smashes in MMA, was not a FIAS sambo world champion. He was a champion in some small combat sambo federation and he lost a few times in smaller tournaments.
Many BJJ "world champions" would not make it through a collegiate wrestling season without pinning themselves a hundred times against 17 year old kids. Yet they would submit the very same kids a few times per minute.
